[solstice]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

FWIW, it's Acura!!! The only good things to come from them were the NSX and the 93-96 Acura Integra.

We had a 2003 RSX S-Type 6 speed in our stable for a few years as my wife’s daily. Nice high revving engine and typical Honda MT quality. It also felt and was bullet proof independent how often you took it to the rev limiter.

Honda/Acura’s problem is not bold designs it’s utterly boring, zero excitement cars the last decade except the super car NSX.

[solstice]

Originally Posted by Faust

It looks great but I'm afraid production 4 Series won't look anything like that. These are sleek and concealed headlights. Production headlights look significantly bigger and bubbly. Also, this grille is non functional mostly an ornament.

Agreed and I noticed the same about “bigger and bubbly” and I hope this is camo. It is common that head and rear light camo. create this bubble large look. If it’s not and the lights are near the size of the F32 it will be a bit of a disappointment.

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

FWIW, it's Acura!!! The only good things to come from them were the NSX and the 93-96 Acura Integra.

Yeah the NS-X and Type-R Integra.

Honda has absolutely lost their magic ways.

[Wmzorba09]

Originally Posted by Miko M

Most people complain about this huge grill and PANIC.
At the end they will be the first in the line to order one.

...is that what your crystal ball is telling you ?

[Miko M]

Originally Posted by Wmzorba09

...is that what your crystal ball is telling you ?

Yup..... like any new model that people complain about it.

The whole purpose of this, is to get people used to the look.

One year later people got used to it and get to see more videos, final product, specs, performance figures and there you go ..... people waiting in the line and droll

[M 4EVER]

Originally Posted by Miko M

Yup..... like any new model that people complain about it.

The whole purpose of this, is to get people used to the look.

One year later people got used to it and get to see more videos, final product, specs, performance figures and there you go ..... people waiting in the line and droll

Perfect explanation/example that you just posted. I was one of them. Lol

Going from NA engine to F80 I was depressed but then, I couldn't wait to get one

[Faust]

Originally Posted by solstice

Agreed and I noticed the same about “bigger and bubbly” and I hope this is camo. It is common that head and rear light camo. create this bubble large look. If it’s not and the lights are near the size of the F32 it will be a bit of a disappointment.

I think the headlights of the new 4 will be slimmer but longer compared to the F32. Also, looks like there will be a notch in the middle (like on the G20 headlights) albeit wider and maybe slightly less pronounced.

[jordan35i]

Originally Posted by Miko M

Yup..... like any new model that people complain about it.

The whole purpose of this, is to get people used to the look.

One year later people got used to it and get to see more videos, final product, specs, performance figures and there you go ..... people waiting in the line and droll

Thread from when F80 was almost released: https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=726356

Now compare to this thread.

[frankiebones]

Originally Posted by JP-F30

Thread from when F80 was almost released: https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=726356

Now compare to this thread.

The funny part is Scott26 saying no CF roof for the 4 door on that thread lol.

[SCOTT26]

Originally Posted by Frosty

Scott, do you know if there will be a "pure" 6MT Coupe and Sedan? I'm starting to think I may move from 4(2DR) to M4(2DR)... so I can enjoy a 6MT one last new BMW

It's always been the intention for the entry tiers of BMW M. Such as M2,M3 and M4 to continue with the manual transmission.
It was the high end cars that would not implant a manual such as the M5. "Pure" has a different standing meaning "standard" within BMW but there will of course be different tiers for varying performance eventually.

I have not seen the M3/M4 personally but someone who has tells me that they are much more aggressive and that the new facia allows for an entirely different interpretation of the M Packet. With sculpted aerodynamics within the body work and distinctive cooling intake outlines for the brakes and air curtains.

They say it's an aggression and boldness that M is long calling out for to open a more deeper chasm between the M Sport Packet and the actual M.

The kidney grille Is there and there is no denying it, it's happening.
But it suits the aggressiveness of the car.
I believe this car was in a new colour described as a very black-green.

Subtlety and understated seems to be another dogma that will be no longer applicable.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

It's always been the intention for the entry tiers of BMW M. Such as M2,M3 and M4 to continue with the manual transmission.
It was the high end cars that would not implant a manual such as the M5. "Pure" has a different standing meaning "standard" within BMW but there will of course be different tiers for varying performance eventually.

I have not seen the M3/M4 personally but someone who has tells me that they are much more aggressive and that the new facia allows for an entirely different interpretation of the M Packet. With sculpted aerodynamics within the body work and distinctive cooling intake outlines for the brakes and air curtains.

They say it's an aggression and boldness that M is long calling out for to open a more deeper chasm between the M Sport Packet and the actual M.

The kidney grille Is there and there is no denying it, it's happening.
But it suits the aggressiveness of the car.
I believe this car was in a new colour described as a very black-green.

Subtlety and understated seems to be another dogma that will be no longer applicable.

Thankfully!.....on all boldfaced points mentioned.

[DCG]

Buy the new jail bars and a cover-up mesh material. BMW corporate suits and exterior Designers must know that everyone thinks that this whacked out kidney grill thing that's going on will NOT stand with their fans and long time customers of the brand.

BMW must fix this poor design language ASAP!

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by DCG

Buy the new jail bars and a cover-up mesh material. BMW corporate suits and exterior Designers must know that everyone thinks that this whacked out kidney grill thing that's going on will NOT stand with their fans and long time customers of the brand.

BMW must fix this ASAP!

It's a test car. That is obvious. I would wait until you see the finished product before judging it.

[SCOTT26]

In these latest images you can actually see the Kidney Grille has actually been removed with the bars being something temporary.
Look at the grille outline on the body and you will see that indeed the metal frame has been removed.

[DCG]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

In these latest images you can actually see the Kidney Grille has actually been removed with the bars being something temporary.
Look at the grille outline on the body and you will see that indeed the metal frame has been removed.

Clearly, indeed. Hopefully it's a decoy, but after looking at the new 4 Series Concept I don't think it is.

Let's hope they can fix this F-up before they actually produce the damn thing!

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by DCG

Clearly, indeed. Hopefully it's a decoy, but after looking at the new 4 Series Concept I don't think it is.

Let's hope they can fix this F-up before they actually produce the damn thing!

A decoy in what way? The grilles are a reality, like it or not. There's no changing that.

[SCOTT26]

Originally Posted by DCG

Clearly, indeed. Hopefully it's a decoy, but after looking at the new 4 Series Concept I don't think it is.

Let's hope they can fix this F-up before they actually produce the damn thing!

Sorry there is no going back...not now...not ever.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

Sorry there is no going back...not now...not ever.

+3

I can't wait to see modded versions of the new cars start popping up.

[Whyte_Diamonds]

Originally Posted by Miko M

Most people complain about this huge grill and PANIC.
At the end they will be the first in the line to order one.

Oh it's not panic. It's a promise.That front end is ugly as sin.:

[bobloblaw]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

I have not seen the M3/M4 personally but someone who has tells me that they are much more aggressive and that the new facia allows for an entirely different interpretation of the M Packet. With sculpted aerodynamics within the body work and distinctive cooling intake outlines for the brakes and air curtains.

They say it's an aggression and boldness that M is long calling out for to open a more deeper chasm between the M Sport Packet and the actual M.

One of the best things about the giant grilles is the new front ends BMW is forced to come up with.

The M-sport \____/ and M /------\ front ends were getting stale and predictable IMO.

[greasypeanut]

Originally Posted by Whyte_Diamonds

Oh it's not panic. It's a promise.That front end is ugly as sin.:

what else are people supposed to get when their lease on their f80 ends???

as im looking at it every day, its getting more and more bearable. dont get me wrong, i still dont like it. but i figure ill eventually be ok with it. i plan on a ED for a g80 when the LCI comes out. it will be one of the last manual 4 doors available at that time.

[J-RO]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

Sorry there is no going back...not now...not ever.

Never say never.