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Enjoyable video. Seems like a great driver's car!
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Dang. So quick, great dynamics. You can gripe about the aesthetics but it's an awesome package, and if this thing dropped out of the sky 10 years ago we would all be losing our minds at the performance. Great middle child between the four banger and full tilt M cars.
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I've just come back from my local dealer today,it looks miles better in the flesh
This is a great looking car
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if this thing dropped out of the sky 10 years ago we would all be losing our minds at the performance. Great middle child between the four banger and full tilt M cars.
It did, it was called the 335i. It came out a little over 10 years ago and everyone did lose their minds on the performance... 2007 335i Road Test

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VERDICT: A dynamic masterpiece that delivers the performance of an M3 without a lot of Sturm und Drang.
In that same year, the replaced top trim, 330i with its NA 3.0L I6 went 0-60 in 5.6 seconds and ran the 1/4 mile in 14.4 at 98mph. The 335i presented a huge leap to 4.8 seconds to 60, and 13.5 seconds at 106mph in the 1/4 mile.
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It did, it was called the 335i. It came out a little over 10 years ago and everyone did lose their minds on the performance... 2007 335i Road Test
Stein, this car has been tested *a full second* quicker.

The point is that it's been very easily dismissed (almost universally on this site) due to the aesthetics, but it's a stellar performer.
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Dang. So quick, great dynamics. You can gripe about the aesthetics but it's an awesome package, and if this thing dropped out of the sky 10 years ago we would all be losing our minds at the performance. Great middle child between the four banger and full tilt M cars.
It did, it was called the 335i. It came out a little over 10 years ago and everyone did lose their minds on the performance... 2007 335i Road Test

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What's better than outstanding? We hit 60 mph in 4.8 seconds with the latest 3-series.
+1 I loved my 2011 335xi coupe! Great car. Spec'd in MSport in LeMans blue.(they changed to N55 (dual scroll single turbo that year so the Dinan stage1 helped with the slight turbo lag.)

Stills shows in My BMW Garage...I wonder who is the happy owner now
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Stein, this car has been tested *a full second* quicker.

The point is that it's been very easily dismissed (almost universally on this site) due to the aesthetics, but it's a stellar performer.
We all know its a good performer, the M340i has been out for almost two years, that point has already been made.

My point was more towards your comment about a car like this being released 10-years ago, saying we would have lost our minds, my response was that indeed a car did come out like this ten years ago and we did all lose our minds, the original 335i. 4.8 seconds to 60 in 2006 was a huge deal, just like sub 4-second cars are now. The M440i has impressive numbers, but this is nothing new, BMW has been putting out impressive numbers for years, case in point, the 335i. Even today, the numbers are still impressive and ahead of the current 3/4 30i.
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Stein, this car has been tested *a full second* quicker.

The point is that it's been very easily dismissed (almost universally on this site) due to the aesthetics, but it's a stellar performer.
We all know its a good performer, the M340i has been out for almost two years, that point has already been made.

My point was more towards your comment about a car like this being released 10-years ago, saying we would have lost our minds, my response was that indeed a car did come out like this ten years ago and we did all lose our minds, the original 335i. 4.8 seconds to 60 in 2006 was a huge deal, just like sub 4-second cars are now. The M440i has impressive numbers, but this is nothing new, BMW has been putting out impressive numbers for years, case in point, the 335i. Even today, the numbers are still impressive and ahead of the current 3/4 30i.
...and it still looks great today (a little dated, but still an eye-catcher).
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...and it still looks great today (a little dated, but still an eye-catcher).
Agree, especially in LCI, the E90 and especially the E92 are beauties in my eyes (I know some may feel different).
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I seen car and driver reviewed the M440i xdrive at 3.8 0-60 also. It'll be interesting to see the M3/4 competition and M3/4 competition xdrives performance specs.
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Dang. So quick, great dynamics. You can gripe about the aesthetics but it's an awesome package, and if this thing dropped out of the sky 10 years ago we would all be losing our minds at the performance. Great middle child between the four banger and full tilt M cars.
It did, it was called the 335i. It came out a little over 10 years ago and everyone did lose their minds on the performance... 2007 335i Road Test

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What's better than outstanding? We hit 60 mph in 4.8 seconds with the latest 3-series.
+1 I loved my 2011 335xi coupe! Great car. Spec'd in MSport in LeMans blue.(they changed to N55 (dual scroll single turbo that year so the Dinan stage1 helped with the slight turbo lag.)

Stills shows in My BMW Garage...I wonder who is the happy owner now
Same! I just ordered a new car, and I noticed my old '09 335 coupe, space grey (best color ever) is still hanging out there.

Last year they put the N54 in the thing.
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I saw it at the dealer yesterday. Great looking car. Now the grill - I stared at it. And stared at it. Looked at the M5 next to it with the "traditional" grill (whatever that means) and loved the M5 and .... could not decide if I liked this grill or not. The car was black so the grill didn't stand out as much but still... could not decide. But I'm not a buyer anyways so it's moot 🤣
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Dang. So quick, great dynamics. You can gripe about the aesthetics but it's an awesome package, and if this thing dropped out of the sky 10 years ago we would all be losing our minds at the performance. Great middle child between the four banger and full tilt M cars.
It did, it was called the 335i. It came out a little over 10 years ago and everyone did lose their minds on the performance... 2007 335i Road Test

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What's better than outstanding? We hit 60 mph in 4.8 seconds with the latest 3-series.
+1 I loved my 2011 335xi coupe! Great car. Spec'd in MSport in LeMans blue.(they changed to N55 (dual scroll single turbo that year so the Dinan stage1 helped with the slight turbo lag.)

Stills shows in My BMW Garage...I wonder who is the happy owner now
Same! I just ordered a new car, and I noticed my old '09 335 coupe, space grey (best color ever) is still hanging out there.

Last year they put the N54 in the thing.
Same here, I forgot it was there until I tracked the status of my incoming M5 and saw it on the bottom. (Apparently terminated leased cars get automatically removed but financed have to be removed manually).

Good memories with the E92 so it's staying on there!
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...and it still looks great today (a little dated, but still an eye-catcher).
Agree, especially in LCI, the E90 and especially the E92 are beauties in my eyes (I know some may feel different).
why are you stirring up shit again?

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It did, it was called the 335i. It came out a little over 10 years ago and everyone did lose their minds on the performance... 2007 335i Road Test
Stein, this car has been tested *a full second* quicker.

The point is that it's been very easily dismissed (almost universally on this site) due to the aesthetics, but it's a stellar performer.
The b58 matched with the zf8 has been out for a few years already. We all know that matchup makes for a great performer. Its not really anything new.

The whole 10 year example doesn't make sense when you can get the previous generation 440i for less, with better styling, and around the same capability when it comes to modifying.

Bmw isn't exactly giving us anything groundbreaking here.
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I seen car and driver reviewed the M440i xdrive at 3.8 0-60 also. It'll be interesting to see the M3/4 competition and M3/4 competition xdrives performance specs.
I posted this as the first thing in the official stickied post.

stage 1 flash tuned S58s in X3M SUVs bone stock with ethanol are running 3.0s 0-60s and that car is hundreds of pounds more than the G8x.

I feel like when we get driving reviews, the performance will not be disappointing.
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The b58 matched with the zf8 has been out for a few years already. We all know that matchup makes for a great performer. Its not really anything new.

The whole 10 year example doesn't make sense when you can get the previous generation m440i for less, with better styling, and around the same capability when it comes to modifying.

Bmw isn't exactly giving us anything groundbreaking here.
Isn't this the first M440i? The prior gen was just a 440i no?

Pretty sure this B58 is rated 382 horses from the factory, which is like 50 horses more mfg advertised for the prior year generation at 335.

I know 2020 supra and 2021 had this exact change and 2020 owners were not happy at all...

I agree with this not being groundbreaking, but I would still call this an improvement / evolution over the prior cars.
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It did, it was called the 335i. It came out a little over 10 years ago and everyone did lose their minds on the performance... 2007 335i Road Test
Stein, this car has been tested *a full second* quicker.

The point is that it's been very easily dismissed (almost universally on this site) due to the aesthetics, but it's a stellar performer.
Performance and interior were never in question.
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Performance and interior were never in question.
I disagree with this, some people have "grille derangement syndrome" and are borderline delusional and think this will be doing like 8 minute Nring runs...I posted a poll and I think two F80 owners voted that they think a g80 will be slower than a F80.

There is definitely bias and fwiw, I also hate the grille but there is no damn way BMW will make cars perform worse generation to generation
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The b58 matched with the zf8 has been out for a few years already. We all know that matchup makes for a great performer. Its not really anything new.

The whole 10 year example doesn't make sense when you can get the previous generation m440i for less, with better styling, and around the same capability when it comes to modifying.

Bmw isn't exactly giving us anything groundbreaking here.
Isn't this the first M440i? The prior gen was just a 440i no?

Pretty sure this B58 is rated 382 horses from the factory, which is like 50 horses more mfg advertised for the prior year generation at 335.

I know 2020 supra and 2021 had this exact change and 2020 owners were not happy at all...

I agree with this not being groundbreaking, but this is an evolution over the prior cars.
It might be more hp and torque, but bmw didn't have to fight hard to get there. Bootmod3 would get you those numbers and then some.
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