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      10-17-2020, 02:34 PM   #67
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Is this going to be an M performance model like M440i or is it going to be a full M car? iM4 and the CF mirrors seem to hint at the latter, but its hard to tell
full M I think
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Is this going to be an M performance model like M440i or is it going to be a full M car? iM4 and the CF mirrors seem to hint at the latter, but its hard to tell
full M I think
Yeah looks like hood is same as new M3/M4 as well, but the grill appears to have the frame on it which the M3/M4 don't have. I like the look better without the frame.

Watching that new David Attenborough documentary makes me feel really shitty about buying my X3M now. Might have to go electric, was holding out for hydrogen cars but think that's a long way off.
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The hood, headlights and grill all appear to me to be very much from the concept car and the same as the new 4 series cars, which of course are based on the i4 concept car. The rear appears to be a trunk, not a hatch, as the deck cut runs up to the edge of the rear glass with no surround to support a hatch glass. With the hood as high as it is, I wonder if there is a decent sized “frunk” supplementing a rear trunk.

To me the the rear side glass looks messy as it extends into the roofline, like the faux window on the side rear of the Cadillac CT-5. I assume it is about rear cabin space but it looks too long.
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The rear appears to be a trunk, not a hatch, as the deck cut runs up to the edge of the rear glass with no surround to support a hatch glass. With the hood as high as it is, I wonder if there is a decent sized “frunk” supplementing a rear trunk.

To me the the rear side glass looks messy as it extends into the roofline, like the faux window on the side rear of the Cadillac CT-5. I assume it is about rear cabin space but it looks too long.
We will all see soon, but I think the rear door upper architecture gives away that this is a common body with the hatchback new 4 GC. As to the surrounding area at the backlight, take a look at the same area on my current 3 GT hatchback (disregarding the deployable wing). The meeting of backlight to rear quarter is similar.
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We will all see soon, but I think the rear door upper architecture gives away that this is a common body with the hatchback new 4 GC. As to the surrounding area at the backlight, take a look at the same area on my current 3 GT hatchback (disregarding the deployable wing). The meeting of backlight to rear quarter is similar.
You just might be right. Interesting!
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No, you don't want fake ICE noises in an electric car. It makes no sense.
To each their own. A silent cabin is absolute insanity to me.
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To each their own. A silent cabin is absolute insanity to me.
Turn on the radio?
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It’s gonna need a better music system than the HK. An audiophile option for road tunes.
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The design is hurting my eyes I will never be a fan of it.
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The competition is going to be fierce, the new E-Tron GT looks good as well, and will apparently have a top RS trim with 700hp. https://www.motor1.com/news/449622/audi-rs-e-tron-gt/
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Turn on the radio?
I mean the radio's on.. it's just, hitting the throttle of a vehicle and hearing nothing but a silent wine isn't appealing at all to me. It's pretty much the exact opposite of what I want to experience when driving.

In a full EV, obviously there's no way to get the authentic sound of an ICE, but an artificial recreation of it is fine by me. I honestly don't care if transmission shift sounds are completely bogus in terms of physical oscillations, so long as it sounds good I'm in.

Think of it this way, if you were to play a driving arcade game, would you want the engine to be on mute? Would you want the game to have no engaging sound when you press the pedal?

Maybe it's not important to most drivers but for me (and I'd assume most enthusiasts) without sound there's no way I'm dipping into my wallet for an EV over an ICE.

I trust BMW will make an incredible full EV ///M experience though. So I'm stoked to see what's upcoming in the Electrified division.
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Yeah looks like hood is same as new M3/M4 as well, but the grill appears to have the frame on it which the M3/M4 don't have. I like the look better without the frame.

Watching that new David Attenborough documentary makes me feel really shitty about buying my X3M now. Might have to go electric, was holding out for hydrogen cars but think that's a long way off.
A friend owns a Toyota Mirai Hydrogen. In takes 55kWh (converted) for 60mi, is complex tech and therefore not cheap in maintenance.

My i3, 2014, 30k mi needs only 13kWh, still has 93% of its original battery capacity and that‘s the old 1st gen. Maintenance cost are ridiculously low.
There’s no need to wait for a „better“ technology because there will be none, not in terms of efficiency and cost.

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Yeah looks like hood is same as new M3/M4 as well, but the grill appears to have the frame on it which the M3/M4 don't have. I like the look better without the frame.

Watching that new David Attenborough documentary makes me feel really shitty about buying my X3M now. Might have to go electric, was holding out for hydrogen cars but think that's a long way off.
A friend owns a Toyota Mirai Hydrogen. In takes 55kWh (converted) for 60mi, is complex tech and therefore not cheap in maintenance.

My i3, 2014, 30k mi needs only 13kWh, still has 93% of its original battery capacity and that's the old 1st gen. Maintenance cost are ridiculously low.
There's no need to wait for a "better" technology because there will be none, not in terms of efficiency and cost.
The issue I have is Building these are worse for the environment than building gas/diesel engines. And the disposal of the batteries will still be a huge problem in the future.

There is no question that from time of purchase until no longer using the car it's the best option, question is the before and after part...

And changing the subject I think they should go with

M4 i

Not i4 M

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Like everything else, new battery tech will eliminate the use of many of the rare earth metals and re-purposing or recycling with become a thriving business.

https://cleantechnica.com/2020/03/06...use-recycling/

https://electrek.co/2019/04/16/tesla...ycling-system/
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Like everything else, new battery tech will eliminate the use of many of the rare earth metals and re-purposing or recycling with become a thriving business.

https://cleantechnica.com/2020/03/06...use-recycling/

https://electrek.co/2019/04/16/tesla...ycling-system/
An impressive concept:

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a3...C000%20cheaper.
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So looking over this set of photos and some of the earlier ones posted of the non-M version of this car, there are some differences visible through the camo. If you look fender crease right over the headlights, that's a contour that either was really well covered up on the prior test mules, or it points to a different set of front fenders. I also don't believe that the standard 4 series has this crease and it's much closer to resembling the M3/M4. Similarly, the earlier models didn't have the rear fender extensions, and these are similar to what some of the early M3 test mules ran.

I'd guess either the entire GC lineup is wider than the other 4 series, or that this specific model shares some body work with the rumored M4 GC. That would be a massive win in my book.
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So looking over this set of photos and some of the earlier ones posted of the non-M version of this car, there are some differences visible through the camo. If you look fender crease right over the headlights, that's a contour that either was really well covered up on the prior test mules, or it points to a different set of front fenders. I also don't believe that the standard 4 series has this crease and it's much closer to resembling the M3/M4. Similarly, the earlier models didn't have the rear fender extensions, and these are similar to what some of the early M3 test mules ran.

I'd guess either the entire GC lineup is wider than the other 4 series, or that this specific model shares some body work with the rumored M4 GC. That would be a massive win in my book.
The biggest giveaway that this car might be closer to the full M treatment than bmw previously let on is the M mirrors. (Especially when combine with the wider track)
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