[Joralemon st.]

Originally Posted by chris719

It's most likely the fault of both companies. I've designed Qi charging circuitry before at work. I suspect the BMW charger is really inefficient and poor AND the iPhone has a protection issue. Apple probably didn't see it in testing because I have come across few wireless chargers as shit as the BMW implementation.

You're right. Sucks they didn't test this, but then again — it's hard to account for every possibility. I'm just hoping they fix this for the 16.

[Joralemon st.]

Originally Posted by c1pher

I have an iPhone 12 and every time I use the wireless charger, the phone overheats and shuts down.

That's just insane. I don't have a native wireless charger in my car, and it's probably a good thing...

[c1pher]

Originally Posted by Joralemon st.

That's just insane. I don't have a native wireless charger in my car, and it's probably a good thing...

I don’t think it’s specific to BMW. My Macan does the same thing. I’m honestly surprised this is just now coming out and singling out BMW. I can’t use wireless charging in any vehicle.

[Joralemon st.]

Originally Posted by c1pher

I don’t think it’s specific to BMW. My Macan does the same thing. I’m honestly surprised this is just now coming out and singling out BMW. I can’t use wireless charging in any vehicle.

Ugh, high tech world... Welcome to the club

[c1pher]

Originally Posted by Joralemon st.

Ugh, high tech world... Welcome to the club

[nype]

https://www.theverge.com/2023/10/28/...ith-iphone-15s

Apple reportedly says an update is coming to keep BMW and Toyota Supra wireless chargers from disabling iPhone 15 NFC chips.

[Joralemon st.]

Originally Posted by c1pher

You see, the thing is I want to get out of here before Joey gets all worked up and starts calling everybody "bitch."

[Joralemon st.]

Originally Posted by nype

https://www.theverge.com/2023/10/28/...ith-iphone-15s

Apple reportedly says an update is coming to keep BMW and Toyota Supra wireless chargers from disabling iPhone 15 NFC chips.

We have a Macan owner on this thread too...

[nype]

Originally Posted by Joralemon st.

We have a Macan owner on this thread too...

Not sure the article is accurate. Just something I came across. Seems like a bunch of finger pointing, as is expected with these things.

[Joralemon st.]

Originally Posted by nype

Not sure the article is accurate. Just something I came across. Seems like a bunch of finger pointing, as is expected with these things.

That's usually what happens. The BMW charger is awful, and iPhone 15 is a dumpster fire too...

[c1pher]

I actually really like my iPhone 15PM and felt it was a somewhat worthwhile upgrade from my iPhone 12PM.

[Joralemon st.]

Originally Posted by c1pher

I actually really like my iPhone 15PM and felt it was a somewhat worthwhile upgrade from my iPhone 12PM.

Absolutely. I was being subjective. Having the 14PM left me with 0.5% desire to upgrade this year. Hopefully next year's model will be what the 15 isn't.

[G80indy]

…… continued radio silence from these “brand giants”

Except for a firmware update….. which will make the wireless charger even more useless for actually charging up the iPhone.

[SnowBob]

Brand new 2024 i4 eDrive40 killed my launch day 15 Pro in about a minute as I was driving it home from the dealer.

I have a 2021 330i with CarKey and wireless charging; I tried to avoid using the charger with the new phone having seen the articles but it ended up charging for a bit when I used the phone to start the car. My girlfriend just got this i4 and I was driving it back from the dealer, was below 10% battery so threw it on the charger out of desperation and it killed it within one minute giving the same Apple Pay issue message. Restarting the phone went through a white screen data recovery process. The phone boots and everything is there but Apple Pay is unavailable. I just spent an hour filling tickets with Apple and BMW.

With Apple I had to get the guy who answered the call to talk to a senior advisor who took over the call. They both had not heard about the issue but the senior advisor found a ticket and added me onto it. I opted not to repair the phone yet hoping they would offer a permanent solution before I break another phone.

Calling the BMW Genius line was quicker. The advisor was familiar with the issues. She asked me about my phone details and the VIN of the car. She also asked if I had CarKey setup on the phone and whether I took the phone on and off the charger while driving which I had done..

I’d encourage others to contact both Apple and BMW with your device and car details to help both engineering teams track this down and fix it.

[RigaTony1982]

Originally Posted by SnowBob

Brand new 2024 i4 eDrive40 killed my launch day 15 Pro in about a minute as I was driving it home from the dealer.

I have a 2021 330i with CarKey and wireless charging; I tried to avoid using the charger with the new phone having seen the articles but it ended up charging for a bit when I used the phone to start the car. My girlfriend just got this i4 and I was driving it back from the dealer, was below 10% battery so threw it on the charger out of desperation and it killed it within one minute giving the same Apple Pay issue message. Restarting the phone went through a white screen data recovery process. The phone boots and everything is there but Apple Pay is unavailable. I just spent an hour filling tickets with Apple and BMW.

With Apple I had to get the guy who answered the call to talk to a senior advisor who took over the call. They both had not heard about the issue but the senior advisor found a ticket and added me onto it. I opted not to repair the phone yet hoping they would offer a permanent solution before I break another phone.

Calling the BMW Genius line was quicker. The advisor was familiar with the issues. She asked me about my phone details and the VIN of the car. She also asked if I had CarKey setup on the phone and whether I took the phone on and off the charger while driving which I had done..

I’d encourage others to contact both Apple and BMW with your device and car details to help both engineering teams track this down and fix it.

There is a fix supposedly in the works. I'm betting an update iOS 17.1.1 will come out next week and have the patch: https://www.theverge.com/2023/10/28/...ith-iphone-15s

[ramparts]

Originally Posted by RigaTony1982

There is a fix supposedly in the works. I'm betting an update iOS 17.1.1 will come out next week and have the patch: https://www.theverge.com/2023/10/28/...ith-iphone-15s

It’s not in the 17.2 betas yet, so 17.1.1 won’t fix it .

We need to just wait until apple offical tell us it’s fixed, and use the key fobs for unlocking until then

[Joralemon st.]

Originally Posted by ramparts

It’s not in the 17.2 betas yet, so 17.1.1 won’t fix it .

We need to just wait until apple offical tell us it’s fixed, and use the key fobs for unlocking until then

Well if you didn't already fry your phone — you can still use it to lock/unlock as that doesn't involve placing it on the charger.

[ramparts]

Originally Posted by Joralemon st.

Well if you didn't already fry your phone — you can still use it to lock/unlock as that doesn't involve placing it on the charger.

That is correct you could use the phone still to open the door, but you’d need the key to start it as you can’t risk putting the phone there to start the engine.
So at that point, you have your key in your pocket anyway, so no need to take out your phone to unlock as comfort access will kick in anyway !

[Joralemon st.]

Originally Posted by ramparts

That is correct you could use the phone still to open the door, but you’d need the key to start it as you can’t risk putting the phone there to start the engine.
So at that point, you have your key in your pocket anyway, so no need to take out your phone to unlock as comfort access will kick in anyway !

Isn't there a card that can be used for this(instead of the phone)?

[nype]

Originally Posted by Joralemon st.

Well if you didn't already fry your phone — you can still use it to lock/unlock as that doesn't involve placing it on the charger.

Isn’t there a setting in iDrive for disabling the wireless charger? I’m assuming the phone could still be placed there to allow for starting the car.

[nype]

Never mind, I see in the manual that the iDrive setting is for enabling / disabling the “don’t forget your phone” reminder

[RigaTony1982]

Once you start the car, you can take the phone off. You don’t have to leave it on. I’m assuming you’d be fine if you just started the car and then removed the phone. Can’t generate that much heat in 3 seconds.