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If you fully read my post you would have seen that I said they share the same components outside of powertrain and steering I know the performance is difference, you missed the point. The point is they are the same car with different engines and steering racks, the M340i is essentially just a 340i with the M-Sport package standard. Not sure what interior differences you are seeing, they're practically identical.
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All in all bmw labels it an M. Because it's an M340. It's not full blown M, just the middle ground in its spot. I don't care to get hung up on the M branding it's just super strange the stigma with people and M. At the end of the day you buy the car for the performance and drive not the badge. |
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It doesn't really matter does it? The 3 series up to the M340i are primarily road cars and great allrounders hence the point of them.
An M3 / M4 however is track focussed therefore meaning if you live in a place with roads like ours you'd be lucky to have a straight spine and any teeth left by the end of the ride (slight exaggeration but you get the point). Thing is you could never get full performance out of an M3 on the road, not sure what it's like in other places but over here we have many idiots, pot holes, traffic queue's, strict speed limits etc. It's not a matter of one vs. the other, it's just a matter of use. |
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Ok ok. It's not a true M... Let it go people!
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That's even worse than! You get a BMW with M-Sport package and they screw you double to scamming with the old ( I don't mind its being old but poor performance) part
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yeah, Chris lives in Italy to run his business but he can get hired as a consultant.
I don't think that's gonna happen as more people buy 316 (3 cylinder 140hp) to beat Mercedes-Benz in sales. Sales are the most important think for BMW at the moment. |
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A little late to this party but just one quick thought- G20 is a solid luxury "sports" sedan with an excellent drivetrain and chassis set up and an average to above average steering set up which certainly leaves a lot to be desired.
If you don't think the steering in this car is just "meh" then you haven't driven enough cars. No rational car enthusiast or even average driver can go out and and test drive other sporty vehicles in 2020 and come back and tell me that the G20 steering stands out in any meaningful way like it did 10+ years ago. It's not so much as BMW regressing in that department(although they certainly have) but almost every other car manufacturer has vastly improved. Of course, steering is only one of many components that go into what makes a car "fun to drive". For me, it's above chassis & drivetrain. For others, fun to drive may mean rocketing to 60 under 4 seconds and pulling .96 on the skidpad-which is why many on here placing the 340 on a pedestal which is fine too.
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Test drive an AWD Altima SR with 19 inch sport tires, sports suspension, independent rear multi link suspension and you'll be pleasantly surprised. .93 on the skidpad can out corner my stock 330i on Pirelli's. All for well under 30k. Would you or I get it over the G20? Probably not. It still has the horrible CVT...but trust me-you'll be pleasantly surprised. I could live with it as a daily driver if i had to. We can't compare the G20 with base model generic cars.
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It's based on the F30 steering rack, but it's been revised. Drive an F30 340i and a G20 M340i back to back and you will see how different the steering feels.
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