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What does everyone think of the Bridgestone Turanzas fitted as standard? For normal daily drives including freeways, bad highways, suburban doddling do you think they are great/good/bad/terrible??
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Turanzas are terrible in my experience. I'm not sure why they get fitted to so many cars as OEM.
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What does everyone think of the Bridgestone Turanzas fitted as standard? For normal daily drives including freeways, bad highways, suburban doddling do you think they are great/good/bad/terrible??
Mine came with Pirelli P zero from the factory. They are pretty good. Wet weather grip is not as good as some Michelins I've had before in previous cars. I also think the Pirelli wears faster. One good thing with Bridgestone runflats is that they can be repaired when punctured. Pirellis are unrepairable and require a completely new tyre.
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What does everyone think of the Bridgestone Turanzas fitted as standard? For normal daily drives including freeways, bad highways, suburban doddling do you think they are great/good/bad/terrible??
Mine came with Pirelli P zero from the factory. They are pretty good. Wet weather grip is not as good as some Michelins I've had before in previous cars. I also think the Pirelli wears faster. One good thing with Bridgestone runflats is that they can be repaired when punctured. Pirellis are unrepairable and require a completely new tyre.
Yeah same fitted to mine, I'd have to agree
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What does everyone think of the Bridgestone Turanzas fitted as standard? For normal daily drives including freeways, bad highways, suburban doddling do you think they are great/good/bad/terrible??
Mine came with Pirelli P zero from the factory. They are pretty good. Wet weather grip is not as good as some Michelins I've had before in previous cars. I also think the Pirelli wears faster. One good thing with Bridgestone runflats is that they can be repaired when punctured. Pirellis are unrepairable and require a completely new tyre.
Pirelli RFT is unrepairable? Where did you get that from? So, not true. First hand experience right here.
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They're not a bad tyre but I got a puncture in the first week of having the car and had to wait 7 days for a replacement tyre to come over form Germany, I should have gone for the more popular Michelin's
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Hm ok. The last lot I had were again Bridgestone (but potenza) and found the ride noisy - but confounded by the fact it was a diff car and possibly less insulated. Managed to get 50000km out of them tho - wonder how that compares
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What does everyone think of the Bridgestone Turanzas fitted as standard? For normal daily drives including freeways, bad highways, suburban doddling do you think they are great/good/bad/terrible??
Mine came with Pirelli P zero from the factory. They are pretty good. Wet weather grip is not as good as some Michelins I've had before in previous cars. I also think the Pirelli wears faster. One good thing with Bridgestone runflats is that they can be repaired when punctured. Pirellis are unrepairable and require a completely new tyre.
Pirelli RFT is unrepairable? Where did you get that from? So, not true. First hand experience right here.
I've had a long discussion about RFTs with the manager of a major tyre chain here in Australia (Bob Jane). It's what the tyre manufacturers recommend and they have to follow the rules accordingly to avoid legal liabilities. I'm sure RFTs can be safely repaired if not driven for long distance (or at all) whilst deflated, but here in downunderland, it's a bit of a nanny state when it comes to these things.

It may be possible to find some smaller tyre places that will repair them.
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Hm ok. The last lot I had were again Bridgestone (but potenza) and found the ride noisy - but confounded by the fact it was a diff car and possibly less insulated. Managed to get 50000km out of them tho - wonder how that compares
Just had some Michelin PS4S' put on another car (non runflats) and they are highly recommended independently. In fact, they are standard fitment to m340i here in Australia and the cars are shipped with a tyre repair kit instead.

I'm thinking about changing to these Michelins when the OEM Pirellis are due to be changed and carry a tyre repair/inflation kit.
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What does everyone think of the Bridgestone Turanzas fitted as standard? For normal daily drives including freeways, bad highways, suburban doddling do you think they are great/good/bad/terrible??
Mine came with Pirelli P zero from the factory. They are pretty good. Wet weather grip is not as good as some Michelins I've had before in previous cars. I also think the Pirelli wears faster. One good thing with Bridgestone runflats is that they can be repaired when punctured. Pirellis are unrepairable and require a completely new tyre.
Pirelli RFT is unrepairable? Where did you get that from? So, not true. First hand experience right here.
I've had a long discussion about RFTs with the manager of a major tyre chain here in Australia (Bob Jane). It's what the tyre manufacturers recommend and they have to follow the rules accordingly to avoid legal liabilities. I'm sure RFTs can be safely repaired if not driven for long distance (or at all) whilst deflated, but here in downunderland, it's a bit of a nanny state when it comes to these things.

It may be possible to find some smaller tyre places that will repair them.
It's simply Pirelli doesn't recommend repair. Not that Pirelli tires are unrepairable. And the rationale Pirelli uses really should apply to all brands. If you drive on a run flat with zero pressure or near zero pressure for more than a few miles and at speeds even close to 50mph (80kph) you should consider replacement. The tire casing is put under extreme stress when driven on with zero pressure. Every tire manufacturer who permits a repair also claims the tire shop must inspect the tire before approving a repair. I, for one, wouldn't ever leave it to a tire shop to determine my safety.

Any run flat that has been driven on in a similar manner you'd drive on a go flat prior to repair (that means never let it go close to zero pressure and get it fixed quickly) is safe to repair. Of course in cases where the puncture is in a bad spot, near the shoulder, etc. Or if sidewall/casing is affected, it should be replaced. All brands!

And trust me the USA is plenty nanny too! The threat of frivolous lawsuits would scare many tire shops here to refuse repair, even of a brand that endorses a repair after inspection. Shops don't want the inspection liability, so they often just say no.
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What does everyone think of the Bridgestone Turanzas fitted as standard? For normal daily drives including freeways, bad highways, suburban doddling do you think they are great/good/bad/terrible??
Mine came with Pirelli P zero from the factory. They are pretty good. Wet weather grip is not as good as some Michelins I've had before in previous cars. I also think the Pirelli wears faster. One good thing with Bridgestone runflats is that they can be repaired when punctured. Pirellis are unrepairable and require a completely new tyre.
Pirelli RFT is unrepairable? Where did you get that from? So, not true. First hand experience right here.
I've had a long discussion about RFTs with the manager of a major tyre chain here in Australia (Bob Jane). It's what the tyre manufacturers recommend and they have to follow the rules accordingly to avoid legal liabilities. I'm sure RFTs can be safely repaired if not driven for long distance (or at all) whilst deflated, but here in downunderland, it's a bit of a nanny state when it comes to these things.

It may be possible to find some smaller tyre places that will repair them.
It's simply Pirelli doesn't recommend repair. Not that Pirelli tires are unrepairable. And the rationale Pirelli uses really should apply to all brands. If you drive on a run flat with zero pressure or near zero pressure for more than a few miles and at speeds even close to 50mph (80kph) you should consider replacement. The tire casing is put under extreme stress when driven on with zero pressure. Every tire manufacturer who permits a repair also claims the tire shop must inspect the tire before approving a repair. I, for one, wouldn't ever leave it to a tire shop to determine my safety.

Any run flat that has been driven on in a similar manner you'd drive on a go flat prior to repair (that means never let it go close to zero pressure and get it fixed quickly) is safe to repair. Of course in cases where the puncture is in a bad spot, near the shoulder, etc. Or if sidewall/casing is affected, it should be replaced. All brands!

And trust me the USA is plenty nanny too! The threat of frivolous lawsuits would scare many tire shops here to refuse repair, even of a brand that endorses a repair after inspection. Shops don't want the inspection liability, so they often just say no.
It's moot whether it is "unrepairable" or "repair not recommended". The fact remains that any reputable tyre shops won't repair Pirelli RFTs whether or not it's been driven with zero pressure. It's simply more profitable for the tyre manufacturer and the tyre shop to simply mandate a replacement.
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What does everyone think of the Bridgestone Turanzas fitted as standard? For normal daily drives including freeways, bad highways, suburban doddling do you think they are great/good/bad/terrible??
Mine came with Pirelli P zero from the factory. They are pretty good. Wet weather grip is not as good as some Michelins I've had before in previous cars. I also think the Pirelli wears faster. One good thing with Bridgestone runflats is that they can be repaired when punctured. Pirellis are unrepairable and require a completely new tyre.
Pirelli RFT is unrepairable? Where did you get that from? So, not true. First hand experience right here.
I've had a long discussion about RFTs with the manager of a major tyre chain here in Australia (Bob Jane). It's what the tyre manufacturers recommend and they have to follow the rules accordingly to avoid legal liabilities. I'm sure RFTs can be safely repaired if not driven for long distance (or at all) whilst deflated, but here in downunderland, it's a bit of a nanny state when it comes to these things.

It may be possible to find some smaller tyre places that will repair them.
It's simply Pirelli doesn't recommend repair. Not that Pirelli tires are unrepairable. And the rationale Pirelli uses really should apply to all brands. If you drive on a run flat with zero pressure or near zero pressure for more than a few miles and at speeds even close to 50mph (80kph) you should consider replacement. The tire casing is put under extreme stress when driven on with zero pressure. Every tire manufacturer who permits a repair also claims the tire shop must inspect the tire before approving a repair. I, for one, wouldn't ever leave it to a tire shop to determine my safety.

Any run flat that has been driven on in a similar manner you'd drive on a go flat prior to repair (that means never let it go close to zero pressure and get it fixed quickly) is safe to repair. Of course in cases where the puncture is in a bad spot, near the shoulder, etc. Or if sidewall/casing is affected, it should be replaced. All brands!

And trust me the USA is plenty nanny too! The threat of frivolous lawsuits would scare many tire shops here to refuse repair, even of a brand that endorses a repair after inspection. Shops don't want the inspection liability, so they often just say no.
It's moot whether it is "unrepairable" or "repair not recommended". The fact remains that any reputable tyre shops won't repair Pirelli RFTs whether or not it's been driven with zero pressure. It's simply more profitable for the tyre manufacturer and the tyre shop to simply mandate a replacement.
Two separate issues.

1. Will a reputable shop repair a Pirelli RFT. Or many other brands since it seems systemic that tire shops like to say no to repairing RFTs in general.

2. Whether the lack of offering repairs is less due to safety and more to do with tire oems and shops looking to sell new. What a way to unnecessarily fill landfills with petroleum products.
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What does everyone think of the Bridgestone Turanzas fitted as standard? For normal daily drives including freeways, bad highways, suburban doddling do you think they are great/good/bad/terrible??
Mine came with Pirelli P zero from the factory. They are pretty good. Wet weather grip is not as good as some Michelins I've had before in previous cars. I also think the Pirelli wears faster. One good thing with Bridgestone runflats is that they can be repaired when punctured. Pirellis are unrepairable and require a completely new tyre.
Pirelli RFT is unrepairable? Where did you get that from? So, not true. First hand experience right here.
I've had a long discussion about RFTs with the manager of a major tyre chain here in Australia (Bob Jane). It's what the tyre manufacturers recommend and they have to follow the rules accordingly to avoid legal liabilities. I'm sure RFTs can be safely repaired if not driven for long distance (or at all) whilst deflated, but here in downunderland, it's a bit of a nanny state when it comes to these things.

It may be possible to find some smaller tyre places that will repair them.
It's simply Pirelli doesn't recommend repair. Not that Pirelli tires are unrepairable. And the rationale Pirelli uses really should apply to all brands. If you drive on a run flat with zero pressure or near zero pressure for more than a few miles and at speeds even close to 50mph (80kph) you should consider replacement. The tire casing is put under extreme stress when driven on with zero pressure. Every tire manufacturer who permits a repair also claims the tire shop must inspect the tire before approving a repair. I, for one, wouldn't ever leave it to a tire shop to determine my safety.

Any run flat that has been driven on in a similar manner you'd drive on a go flat prior to repair (that means never let it go close to zero pressure and get it fixed quickly) is safe to repair. Of course in cases where the puncture is in a bad spot, near the shoulder, etc. Or if sidewall/casing is affected, it should be replaced. All brands!

And trust me the USA is plenty nanny too! The threat of frivolous lawsuits would scare many tire shops here to refuse repair, even of a brand that endorses a repair after inspection. Shops don't want the inspection liability, so they often just say no.
It's moot whether it is "unrepairable" or "repair not recommended". The fact remains that any reputable tyre shops won't repair Pirelli RFTs whether or not it's been driven with zero pressure. It's simply more profitable for the tyre manufacturer and the tyre shop to simply mandate a replacement.
Two separate issues.

1. Will a reputable shop repair a Pirelli RFT. Or many other brands since it seems systemic that tire shops like to say no to repairing RFTs in general.

2. Whether the lack of offering repairs is less due to safety and more to do with tire oems and shops looking to sell new. What a way to unnecessarily fill landfills with petroleum products.
I agree with you entirely. But all I'm saying, at the end of the day, if they refuse to repair the punctured tyre... then as a customer we have no choice but to buy a new one.
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