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      02-16-2020, 12:38 PM   #12497
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      02-16-2020, 01:07 PM   #12501
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Look to your freedom caucus and people like that who started the big divide.
Are you actually claiming that a group of people, that 75% of the population does not know who they are or even that the caucus exists, are responsible for the divide in this nation? C'mon now, you can do better than that.
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      02-16-2020, 04:01 PM   #12503
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Look to your freedom caucus and people like that who started the big divide.
Are you actually claiming that a group of people, that 75% of the population does not know who they are or even that the caucus exists, are responsible for the divide in this nation? C'mon now, you can do better than that.
No, actually, the Republican party needs to do better.

As I've stated on here Numerous times, up until February 2017, I've always considered Obama to be the worst president of my lifetime, and that included Nixon.
But that was based on policy, not character. And I think everyone on this board probably did pretty well between 2009 and 2016, financially. The sky did not fall.

But character and morality is where the freedom caucus and Trump supporters fall far far short.
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      02-16-2020, 04:23 PM   #12504
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No, actually, the Republican party needs to do better.

As I've stated on here Numerous times, up until February 2017, I've always considered Obama to be the worst president of my lifetime, and that included Nixon.
But that was based on policy, not character. And I think everyone on this board probably did pretty well between 2009 and 2016, financially. The sky did not fall.

But character and morality is where the freedom caucus and Trump supporters fall far far short.
Even if i accept everything you say, how does that make the freedom caucus responsible for the divide in the country? It is clear you hate them, but since most people have no idea they exist i dont see how they can be responsible for the divide. You can claim they are creating gridlock, but that is a different discussion entirely.
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      02-16-2020, 04:25 PM   #12505
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No, actually, the Republican party needs to do better.

As I've stated on here Numerous times, up until February 2017, I've always considered Obama to be the worst president of my lifetime, and that included Nixon.
But that was based on policy, not character. And I think everyone on this board probably did pretty well between 2009 and 2016, financially. The sky did not fall.

But character and morality is where the freedom caucus and Trump supporters fall far far short.
No, I can honestly say I didn't because my insurance and out of pocket cost went thru the freaking roof after aca and has never recover. Last year was the first year I seen even a remote slow down in the rates.

I'll never will forget a conversation I had with an insurance brooker pointing out how expensive and shit the current plans they offer was and her response was "well rent prices go up every years" and my response was "yes rent goes up but my apartment doesn't get smaller" she was completely caught off guard as she didn't expect such a quick and devastating point to her statement.

Before ACA i knew what I was suppose to pay at my doctor, er, and specialist. Now we have the whole bs with you have to spend this much in out of pocket before insurance cover crap; then they cover a percentage up to a seperate out of pocket limit. Then finally the insurance is actually worth something but that only after 10k and it reset the very next year. With that sort of insurance i might as well have no insurance since a normal ER bill in a year is 10k anyway.

Then don't get me started with Obama taxing smokers to pay for kids healthcare.
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No, actually, the Republican party needs to do better.

As I've stated on here Numerous times, up until February 2017, I've always considered Obama to be the worst president of my lifetime, and that included Nixon.
But that was based on policy, not character. And I think everyone on this board probably did pretty well between 2009 and 2016, financially. The sky did not fall.

But character and morality is where the freedom caucus and Trump supporters fall far far short.
No, I can honestly say I didn't because my insurance and out of pocket cost went thru the freaking roof after aca and has never recover. Last year was the first year I seen even a remote slow down in the rates.

I'll never will forget a conversation I had with an insurance brooker pointing out how expensive and shit the current plans they offer was and her response was "well rent prices go up every years" and my response was "yes rent goes up but my apartment doesn't get smaller" she was completely caught off guard as she didn't expect such a quick and devastating point to her statement.
So when the Republicans and Trump controlled all three legs necessary to change the ACA, and enact legislation that would help you, what happened?
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So when the Republicans and Trump controlled all three legs necessary to change the ACA, and enact legislation that would help you, what happened?
They repel some of the most cancerous parts which expose aca to be struck down by the courts and prevent such a cancerous program being establish again. Furthermore as I said rate increase slow down the year after they did that crap.
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      02-16-2020, 05:25 PM   #12508
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So when the Republicans and Trump controlled all three legs necessary to change the ACA, and enact legislation that would help you, what happened?
John MacCain happened.
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So when the Republicans and Trump controlled all three legs necessary to change the ACA, and enact legislation that would help you, what happened?
John MacCain happened.
Wrong. Did John McCain make Donald Trump and the rest the Republican Party not to sponsor healthcare legislation?

AHCH was a repeal of Obamacare, not new legislation to address healthcare concerns
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Wrong. Did John McCain make Donald Trump and the rest the Republican Party not to sponsor healthcare legislation?

AHCH was a repeal of Obamacare, not new legislation to address healthcare concerns
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Wrong. Did John McCain make Donald Trump and the rest the Republican Party not to sponsor healthcare legislation?

AHCH was a repeal of Obamacare, not new legislation to address healthcare concerns
Wrong!
Correct.

Please tell me all about the Republican plan to bring health Care costs down and help make sure everyone can get affordable healthcare.......
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Please tell me all about the Republican plan to bring health Care costs down and help make sure everyone can get affordable healthcare.......
Corn had it right, you are wrong.

Please tell me the Dem plan to bring health care costs down and make sure everyone can get affordable healthcare? ACA promised, but still waiting for the fulfillment of that promise many years later. That smells like fail to me.
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