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      09-20-2019, 09:07 AM   #45
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If you use it on electric power alone, does it feel too slugish for city commute or does the electric torque make up for that ?
I have a 530e. I like spirited driving but I also like to protect the environment. Furthermore, I have the ability to charge in my garage and I work from home so I can recharge during the day.

My compromise is I do mostly pure EV driving in local driving and I drive in auto mode in a spirited manner when less urban roads permit. With a 12.4 gallon tank, I have been getting between 700 and 1,000 miles on a tank (currently at half a tank and almost 500 miles driven).

I have never run out of boost. I do sometimes deliberately save battery capacity if my car is going to sit in the sun for an extended period so I can ensure that I have enough battery capacity to use my phone to start the AC. One of my favorite features.
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      09-20-2019, 09:09 AM   #46
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Thanks for sharing. Definitely interested in this car if it leases well. Would much rather the wagon but it's nice to see the ratings are realistic.
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      09-20-2019, 10:12 AM   #47
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If you use it on electric power alone, does it feel too slugish for city commute or does the electric torque make up for that ?
It's faster than what I expected. From standstill the first 2 seconds of acceleration actually feel surprisingly fast, and then it's ok. The performance is more than enough for fast city driving.
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Major mistake by BMW by not releasing the car before 2020 in the US — the PHEV tax credit permanently expires at the end of the year and vehicle buyers will miss out completely. Sales will falter for sure because of it — hopefully it doesn't end up in the same grave as the underated monster that is the ActiveHybrid 3.
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      09-20-2019, 02:50 PM   #49
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Major mistake by BMW by not releasing the car before 2020 in the US — the PHEV tax credit permanently expires at the end of the year and vehicle buyers will miss out completely. Sales will falter for sure because of it — hopefully it doesn't end up in the same grave as the underated monster that is the ActiveHybrid 3.
Love my AH3. The only stock F3x series that can beat it to 100kph/62mph was the 340i at 0.1 second faster.

As can also be seen by the numbers, the 330e was a slug when I tested it.
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      09-21-2019, 04:04 PM   #50
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Really nice.

I personally cannot wait for an all Electric 3er, but in the meantime, very nice indeed.
Yes, for all those who can not rely on a dense loading infrastructure, the Hybrid is a very good option, especially this new generation with increased E range. Better to safe a little CO2 than nothing.
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Really nice.

I personally cannot wait for an all Electric 3er, but in the meantime, very nice indeed.
Yes, for all those who can not rely on a dense loading infrastructure, the Hybrid is a very good option, especially this new generation with increased E range. Better to safe a little CO2 than nothing.
After owning 3 full electric daily drivers i'd never consider anything else for my daily.

However, I am hoping for a PHEV (plug-in hybrid) M-Car for my next sports car.
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Thanks for sharing your experience with the new car and range. I personally find it disappointing though that the electric range is this little as I have a commute longer in round trip and would want the car to go 100 percent electric on my commute (with the gas engine only having to kick in if i go for an excursion or road trip). But I guess bmw knows their markets. Your car looks sharp, best luck with it
Not sure what you are saying. You can easily enable electric only mode.
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I have never run out of boost. I do sometimes deliberately save battery capacity if my car is going to sit in the sun for an extended period so I can ensure that I have enough battery capacity to use my phone to start the AC. One of my favorite features.
I don't think the ac is run from the "driving" battery but rather is powered by one of the two normal batteries (trunk/boot).
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I don't think the ac is run from the "driving" battery but rather is powered by one of the two normal batteries (trunk/boot).
The ac is powered by the 12 kw battery, when you turn it on the range goes down immediately 2/3 klms
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Thanks for sharing your experience with the new car and range. I personally find it disappointing though that the electric range is this little as I have a commute longer in round trip and would want the car to go 100 percent electric on my commute (with the gas engine only having to kick in if i go for an excursion or road trip). But I guess bmw knows their markets. Your car looks sharp, best luck with it
Not sure what you are saying. You can easily enable electric only mode.
Just saying I would want it to last the entirety of my commute, which is longer than the electric range, unfortunately
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      09-23-2019, 03:42 AM   #56
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Good Year are average tyres. Try Pirelli P Zero or Michelin PS4 when You spent them. For winter Michelin Pilot Alpin 4 or 5
I will put PS4s once the Goodyears are gone for sure! Still they grip well.
Even better. Great choice
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Is the battery still in the trunk ?
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Is the battery still in the trunk ?
No, the battery is placed under the rear seats and the fuel tank is placed in the trunk.
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Ah, so the boot space is still restricted?
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Ah, so the boot space is still restricted?
yes, 100 liters less than a normal 3 series
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      09-24-2019, 09:02 AM   #61
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Arh... I somehow thought this would not be the case with the 2020 model. Might be a deal breaker right there. The X5 45e look like it's less crippled is this regard. I know differnet animal altogether...
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Here is a picture of the boot space. The lower part is the "normal" height of a normal 3 series. The lower part can be increased to have a flat floor..

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Arh... I somehow thought this would not be the case with the 2020 model. Might be a deal breaker right there. The X5 45e look like it's less crippled is this regard. I know differnet animal altogether...
Not to mention the difference in price .
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Major mistake by BMW by not releasing the car before 2020 in the US — the PHEV tax credit permanently expires at the end of the year and vehicle buyers will miss out completely. Sales will falter for sure because of it — hopefully it doesn't end up in the same grave as the underated monster that is the ActiveHybrid 3.
this isnt actually correct. Tesla and GM are having their credits expire, because they've sold their 200k units. BMW has sold 80k, so they still have 120k units to sell before the phase out starts.

https://www.irs.gov/businesses/irc-3...uarterly-sales
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quick question: Does anybody know when the 330e will hit US dealers? Called some local dealers and one told me January, the other july...
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Got my 330e last week and could not get over 41km per charge whatsoever.
Round trip of 46km to work and back, 10km city and 36 motorway 100-120kmph, outside temps of 10-15 degrees C.
That's with no A/C or any heating on, will be lower as it gets colder outside I'm sure.
51km sounds way too much when they advertise a 60km range. Or maybe that's the individual value which factors in the petrol drive of Hybrid mode.
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