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      09-11-2019, 05:22 PM   #815
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I'm actually more pissed they fucked up the H kink...
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      09-11-2019, 05:26 PM   #816
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The Acura Beak stayed for 10yrs - they finally saw the light and the new designs with their diamond grill look much better.

Lexus Predator grill is a disaster and is close to being on its way out.

Why BMW followed footsteps of looser brands is beyond me? Take lessons from Porsche and MB!

Basically the great BMW design features are all changed for the worse:
1) kidney grill = disaster
2) angel / halo eyes = only if u get optional laser lights
3) Hofmeister kink = who needs that, lets copy Lexus/Infiniti
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      09-11-2019, 05:37 PM   #817
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If the Mercedes C class ever gets rid of that screen that looks like an Ipad glued onto the dash board I might consider it now that I have seen the super kidney 4 series.
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      09-11-2019, 05:38 PM   #818
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The Acura Beak stayed for 10yrs - they finally saw the light and the new designs with their diamond grill look much better.
It seems like BMW's seeing "the light" is that their design language from the F30 and G30 are boring and that they need to change it up big time. Whether it's successful or not remains to be seen. Obviously so far with the 4er Concept, it is polarizing and divisive at best.

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Lexus Predator grill is a disaster and is close to being on its way out.
Is it? Their new models have been rolling it out. Haven't seen anything about them changing it.

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Why BMW followed footsteps of looser brands is beyond me? Take lessons from Porsche and MB!
I honestly find MB's absurdly large 3 pointed star badge on the grilles is more offensive than Audi/Lexus/BMW large grilles lol. I do agree with your final point that the Hoff Kink should not be abandoned, but it seems that, at the very least, they are being very loose with their interpretation of it.
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      09-11-2019, 05:54 PM   #819
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I like it, bold and aggressive. You have to step our of your comfort zone in car design or cars will all look alike (New 3 series/Lexus IS). If you want the same cup of tea (design wise) year after year, just get a 911
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      09-11-2019, 06:01 PM   #820
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My wife isn't an enthusiast nor a car whore but I showed her this and she said she had throw up in her mouth. She knows how nice my f80 looks. lol.
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      09-11-2019, 06:20 PM   #821
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in just over 1 1/2 days and 38 pages of posts, the BimmerPost community has made its view of the grills clear with typical subtlety==>
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      09-11-2019, 06:31 PM   #822
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The goal for a redesign of an iconic car is to advance the existing design language in a way that is contemporary and fresh, but still consistent with the designs that precede it. It can be a bunch of subtle changes that when taken as a whole translate into a clear evolution. The F32 has classic coupe proportions and a nicely integrated, balanced, thoughtful design. Its aesthetic shortcomings are limited to the interior, which is a little dated and pedestrian compared to other offerings in the segment. That's where BMW should have spent its time and money.

This new design represents a huge risk for them, and I admire the balls it took, but the car is objectively just homely as fuck.
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      09-11-2019, 06:32 PM   #823
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its a fail plain and simple and the fact that bmw will lose perhaps 8-10years cleaning up this mess is a serious business problem for them. Bmw isnt the same company producing amazing vehicles from a driving dynamics perspective anymore that all of the competitors have caught and perhaps even surpassed in certain segments, ie people have alot more choices today than even 20 years ago and any impact to the 3/4ers will hurt bmw long term.
there was no reason for such a polarizing design, its not beautiful and its not “form following function” hence it was a terrible decision.
Im all for new, fresh, modern designs from bmw,
but they need to be beautiful and or form following function dependant.

Look at what porsche is doing with the taycan, fresh, beautiful, modern design the looks like no other car yet looks exactly like a modern porsche. You think that i4 can compete on design? Never.

I hear u saying we, as loyal enthusiasts must must accept it, but, you are wrong, imho. The us market does have a say in this and bmwna better be reading this entire thread and see whats coming and how they’ll never meet the new ceos demand to close the gap with mb when the company makes such poor executive decisions.
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M630, I agree with this 1,000%
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in just over 1 1/2 days and 38 pages of posts, the BimmerPost community has made its view of the grills clear with typical subtlety==>
Let the riots begin!!!!

I have my pitchfork.

Where do we meet?

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      09-11-2019, 06:42 PM   #825
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🤢🤮 BMW succeeded in making the Lexus RCF look good. WTF were they thinking?! Utterly horrible.
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Let the riots begin!!!!

I have my pitchfork.

Where do we meet?

There's a man who actually put his money where his mouth was and showed up to the BMW Welt in Munich and set fire to and/or destroyed his BMWs after being very dissatisfied.

I wrote about this man a while back:
https://g20.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1423944

Here's his E65/66 7er up in flames in broad daylight in front of BMW.
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Sorry but every person I've shown the pictures too (all are non-enthusiasts) laugh and say it must be a joke!

They've lost a customer here and it's too bad as I love my M2.
Yes, and we thought that Chris Bangle's designs were bad.

Who's the LOSER who designed this front end????

hey BMW.........[SIZE="7"][COLOR="Red"]RELEASE THE DESIGNER'S NAME SO WE KNOW WHO TO BLAME. WHO DESIGNED THIS MONSTROSITY?[/COLOR][/SIZE] ......WHAT IS HIS NAME?

LET'S START A PETITION TO DEMAND THAT HE/SHE BE REVEALED.

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It could've been so great. Overall design is nice. Except yeah, that grill. But also, the more I looked at it the more it looked like a mustang. Keep looking, haha.
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Just realized that the "kink" on the 4er Concept is very similar to the iVision Dynamics concept. The kink goes back towards the trunk, then takes a gradual downwards turn. I think this is the same "kink" we will see on the 4GC. Personally not a fan, but we'll see...


The head designer of the 4er Concept did a video on instagram, and was talking about concept vs production and mentioned the 4er in coupe, gran coupe, and i4 form are all based off the iVisionDynamics concept
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I'm actually more pissed they fucked up the H kink...


you saw a kink there? lol.
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Maybe the big grill would work if the shape was not so bad. But all those corners and the geometric shape of it? No thanks. This grill does not flow like the Lexus.
This is worse than the 7 series.
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My wife isn't an enthusiast nor a car whore but I showed her this and she said she had throw up in her mouth. She knows how nice my f80 looks. lol.
Same here. Her first reaction was that it looks like an apple, and then an ass
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I wouldn't take it if they give it to me for free!!!

F that BS
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I think I can live with the F80/F82 hoodline now.

As kids, you would put up a posters of your dream car on your wall.

So here it goes:

...think about this for a sec...

Which one would you want to look back and kiss goodnight?
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I was really looking forward to a brand new M3 picked up in Germany. Unless they somehow make that schnoze integrate better in the production model, im with the naysayers.. this will hurt them which they cant really afford with the shift to e-cars that is sucking down money.

This is sad... no 1st time bmw euro delivery for me.
Same here - will be the first time in four cycles no Euro Delivery, no BMW M. Just can't do it, too heinous.

8 is great, Z4 is good, this new 4er design is a horror show.
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so the 3 looks like a lexus from the back
and the 4 looks like an infiniti everywhere except the grill lol
3 doesn't look like a Lexus, and 4 doesn't look like an Infiniti anywhere at all. It looks like an 8 series except for the grill, which is better looking than 8.
What? Lol
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