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      12-07-2019, 06:40 AM   #45
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Isn't this already common knowledge? The X3M competition has over 500hp and the next M3/4 should share the same engine.
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      12-07-2019, 07:47 AM   #46
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No I thought you had said M6 was GTLM. M8 is GTLM....M6 is GTD in IMSA. Always and forever, never was the M6 GTLM as far as I know. I don't see an IMSA tag anywhere on that black M6 but I do see a GTLM tag in front of the rear wheel. I'm just confused on the race series. I've only witnessed the M6 as a GTD at IMSA races.
That is incorrect. The name of the series and classes has changed a bit over the years, but more or less from 2013-2015 BMW made the Z4 GTE (known as GTLM in Imsa) and the Z4 GT3 (known as GTD in Imsa). The GTE car was run by Rahal Letterman Lanigan (RLL) in GTLM and Turner Motorsports ran a Z4 GT3 in GTD. From 2016-2017 RLL ran the M6 GTE (GTLM) and Turner ran the M6 GT3 (GTD). For 2018 to present, RLL has run the M8 GTE (GTLM) while Turner continues to use the M6 GT3 (GTD).

So yes the M6 did run in GTLM (as did a Z4). We know for certain that the M4 GT3 will replace the M6 for 2021, still no confirmation that will translate to an M4 GTE (GTLM). As mentioned in my other post, that is entirely possible based on the past, but I also think it is possible that BMW uses its future mid-engined “halo” car in GTLM as it would align more with the competition.

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@Pic18 appreciate the complete summary! Scrippy GTLM is considered the factory team... GTD/GT3 is not.
This is a pic of both M6 in IMSA probably in 2016
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      12-07-2019, 10:26 AM   #48
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still trying to hide that grill.....RIP that bandaid off and let's just all deal with the aftermath
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Very nice of the M team to get all the M cars on the track competing. M8 M4 and M2.

I say ditch the M one off and get some INDYCAR/F1/protype going as a motorsport crown.
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still trying to hide that grill.....RIP that bandaid off and let's just all deal with the aftermath
Exactly I rather come to terms with it now rather waiting till it's official debut
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At least it's confirmed the vertical grilles goes almost all the way to the bottom
Grille is not looking good. Also this whole thing with the 500 horsepower, the current generation Mercedes C63 AMG S has 500 horsepower and that has been out for almost 5 years since early 2015.
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Isn't this already common knowledge? The X3M competition has over 500hp and the next M3/4 should share the same engine.
Yes I would think so. The M4 Competition is the coupe version of X3 and X4 M Competition. Too bad people have to wait until 2021 for the coupe and sedan versions that are supposedly done.
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Isn't this already common knowledge? The X3M competition has over 500hp and the next M3/4 should share the same engine.
They have been known to perform the shady business practice of de-tuning, though. See M2C.
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when will all this be out for us to see.?
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At least it's confirmed the vertical grilles goes almost all the way to the bottom
Grille is not looking good. Also this whole thing with the 500 horsepower, the current generation Mercedes C63 AMG S has 500 horsepower and that has been out for almost 5 years since early 2015.
This is not street car it has to stick to rules I assume, without rules manufacturer will all probably go pumping 2000 hp engine...
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If that's the case, my F82 just got a whole lot secksier. Didn't even think that was possible!
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      12-09-2019, 04:22 PM   #57
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They have been known to perform the shady business practice of de-tuning, though. See M2C.
Are you referring to the M2C as being detuned compared to the M4C? If so thatís because the 2 is a lower, less expensive model than the 4. The M3/M4 are not lower models than the X3/X4 M, they are sister cars. Theyíre not detuning the M3/M4, thereís be no reason to in the model hierarchy.
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Are you referring to the M2C as being detuned compared to the M4C? If so that’s because the 2 is a lower, less expensive model than the 4. The M3/M4 are not lower models than the X3/X4 M, they are sister cars. They’re not detuning the M3/M4, there’s be no reason to in the model hierarchy.
You can also interpret this as not running as much boost over the NA configuration, so as to deliberately produce a more driveable and linear throttle response.

I would personally consider this a plus point. (until we have electric superchargers! ;-)
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It's adorable how people think that's an actual picture and how cool it looks...

It's an illustration folks...
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It's adorable how people think that's an actual picture and how cool it looks...

It's an illustration folks...
...?

It’s a race car. Probably slightly stylized for the ad/photo.
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Looks just as ugly as the earlier pictures. The top of the grills is way too high, and really looks like it's been pasted on.

Lexus on steroids.
Only thing is Lexus will not have reliability issues
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...?

Itís a race car. Probably slightly stylized for the ad/photo.
Yes, it's an illustration of the race car. It is not an actual photo of the race car. People are commenting on how great this looks with the big grills, but you can't even see half of them. And it's not a real picture, it's just a drawing. It has no bearing on how the G80/G82 will look.
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...?

Itís a race car. Probably slightly stylized for the ad/photo.


Exactly... really not that hard to understand
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So ... for 10% extra power we pay 20% extra weight, four wheel drive and a shitty gearbox?

Makes the 0-60 time look better, but I really hope M-division have got something magic lurking up their sleeves or this doesn't seem like a good deal to me.
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So ... for 10% extra power we pay 20% extra weight, four wheel drive and a shitty gearbox?

Makes the 0-60 time look better, but I really hope M-division have got something magic lurking up their sleeves or this doesn't seem like a good deal to me.
Looking at the ring footage I think they do. I suspect a big leap in chassis and aero technology helping the G8X crush the F8X. And that extra power doesn’t hurt down long straights and the extra AWD traction doesn’t hurt when getting on the power early. So not really magic just physics should make the new car leaps and bounds faster and that will ultimately be the claim to fame for this generation, track times, stability and effortless speed on and off the track.

Few will fully use it many will be seduced by it.

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Looking at the ring footage I think they do. I suspect a big leap in chassis and aero technology helping the G8X crush the F8X. And that extra power doesn’t hurt down long straights and the extra AWD traction doesn’t hurt when getting on the power early. So not really magic just physics should make the new car leaps and bounds faster and that will ultimately be the claim to fame for this generation, track times, stability and effortless speed on and off the track.

Few will fully use it many will be seduced by it.
I predict the same sort of reviews as the Nissan GTR.
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