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      01-21-2020, 10:33 PM   #67
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He's not in the US, and Magnuson Moss works differently than you think.
Isn't that a US Federal Law, so it wouldn't apply oversees, and anytime you mod a car it would affect warranty coverage.
In the US, the dealer and manufacturer have to prove that the modification caused the issue. For example, having a JB4 tune did not cause three sets of HPFPs to fail on our N54 and the dealer gave us no trouble.

It can be stricter in other countries, Germany is really tight, but an aftermarket tune does not equal 'no warranty.'
The dealer could have given you trouble and voided the whole power train warranty as some dealers are not so mod friendly. They chose not to in your case. The HPFP would have to have failed without the jb4. This is a known issue with the N54 so they went ahead and did it for you. Even a BMS intake could prevent passing emissions test though it may not affect tail pipe emissions as they simple refuse to do the test if they see one and fail you on the spot.
They can deny it, but the consumer can escalate it, either to the regional office, country or manufacturer. The whole knee jerk reaction people have of 'tunes void you warranty' simply isn't true, it would only apply to the powertrain at worst and would have to be a verifiable issue to actually be credibly denied.

I've had a number of mildly modified cars and just about every area modified has had dealer warranty coverage and I've never had any trouble with it. I'm not advocating every one running out and getting a tune, but it's not the peril some folks make it out to be.
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Love when people lower their cars just the right amount, its perfect. The car looks great also to be mentioned.
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My new 2020 BMW G20 330e with M-performance parts,
VeemannVC03 concave wheels 9x20 et32 235/35/20 and 10x20 et45 275/30/20 and 10mm spacers rear.
Lowered with H&R springs -40mm
Front Brakes 374mm red painted calipers
Tinted head- and fog lights
340i Exhaust tips and black frontgrill
Tuned stage 1 to +400hp
M-performance Frontlip and side skirts will be placed next week

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Tune results 330e, engine B48B20B









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The best 330e on earth, but please give some data of the notor modifications because it sounds pretty outrageous and difficult to be reached. I talked to probably the best chip tuner in Italy and they said that 65/70 hp power gain is the best they can achieve without compromising the motor life. Please explain. A video of the sound could be very appreciated.
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      01-22-2020, 03:11 AM   #71
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Just for clarification. You know that the m performance front splitter is not allowed by BMW on the 330e, because of thermal problems regarding the electric drive terrain?
This is the biggest load of codswollop I've ever heard
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He's not in the US, and Magnuson Moss works differently than you think.
Isn't that a US Federal Law, so it wouldn't apply oversees, and anytime you mod a car it would affect warranty coverage.
In the US, the dealer and manufacturer have to prove that the modification caused the issue. For example, having a JB4 tune did not cause three sets of HPFPs to fail on our N54 and the dealer gave us no trouble.

It can be stricter in other countries, Germany is really tight, but an aftermarket tune does not equal 'no warranty.'
The dealer could have given you trouble and voided the whole power train warranty as some dealers are not so mod friendly. They chose not to in your case. The HPFP would have to have failed without the jb4. This is a known issue with the N54 so they went ahead and did it for you. Even a BMS intake could prevent passing emissions test though it may not affect tail pipe emissions as they simple refuse to do the test if they see one and fail you on the spot.
They can deny it, but the consumer can escalate it, either to the regional office, country or manufacturer. The whole knee jerk reaction people have of 'tunes void you warranty' simply isn't true, it would only apply to the powertrain at worst and would have to be a verifiable issue to actually be credibly denied.

I've had a number of mildly modified cars and just about every area modified has had dealer warranty coverage and I've never had any trouble with it. I'm not advocating every one running out and getting a tune, but it's not the peril some folks make it out to be.
Taking a 330e to over 400 horsepower is not a mild modification and could stress the 4 cylinder beyond design limits. While a JB4 might be overlooked this would be less likely to be overlooked when making a warranty claim related to the power train.
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Car looks amazing man!

Lol when i saw the title i read over 1000 hp

"tune stage 1, 429hp / 700nm"

I was quite shocked haha
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He's not in the US, and Magnuson Moss works differently than you think.
Isn't that a US Federal Law, so it wouldn't apply oversees, and anytime you mod a car it would affect warranty coverage.
In the US, the dealer and manufacturer have to prove that the modification caused the issue. For example, having a JB4 tune did not cause three sets of HPFPs to fail on our N54 and the dealer gave us no trouble.

It can be stricter in other countries, Germany is really tight, but an aftermarket tune does not equal 'no warranty.'
The dealer could have given you trouble and voided the whole power train warranty as some dealers are not so mod friendly. They chose not to in your case. The HPFP would have to have failed without the jb4. This is a known issue with the N54 so they went ahead and did it for you. Even a BMS intake could prevent passing emissions test though it may not affect tail pipe emissions as they simple refuse to do the test if they see one and fail you on the spot.
They can deny it, but the consumer can escalate it, either to the regional office, country or manufacturer. The whole knee jerk reaction people have of 'tunes void you warranty' simply isn't true, it would only apply to the powertrain at worst and would have to be a verifiable issue to actually be credibly denied.

I've had a number of mildly modified cars and just about every area modified has had dealer warranty coverage and I've never had any trouble with it. I'm not advocating every one running out and getting a tune, but it's not the peril some folks make it out to be.
Taking a 330e to over 400 horsepower is not a mild modification and could stress the 4 cylinder beyond design limits. While a JB4 might be overlooked this would be less likely to be overlooked when making a warranty claim related to the power train.
The electric motor is rated at 112hp. Is not that outrageous to get the 4cyl to 290hp or what am I missing?
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Can we just end the ridiculous warranty argument? No one really cares and you are bloating the thread. Give the OP the thread back.
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Can we just end the ridiculous warranty argument? No one really cares and you are bloating the thread. Give the OP the thread back.
Ha, fair enough. Enjoy the car, OP, impressive stuff.
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He's not in the US, and Magnuson Moss works differently than you think.
Isn't that a US Federal Law, so it wouldn't apply oversees, and anytime you mod a car it would affect warranty coverage.
In the US, the dealer and manufacturer have to prove that the modification caused the issue. For example, having a JB4 tune did not cause three sets of HPFPs to fail on our N54 and the dealer gave us no trouble.

It can be stricter in other countries, Germany is really tight, but an aftermarket tune does not equal 'no warranty.'
The dealer could have given you trouble and voided the whole power train warranty as some dealers are not so mod friendly. They chose not to in your case. The HPFP would have to have failed without the jb4. This is a known issue with the N54 so they went ahead and did it for you. Even a BMS intake could prevent passing emissions test though it may not affect tail pipe emissions as they simple refuse to do the test if they see one and fail you on the spot.
They can deny it, but the consumer can escalate it, either to the regional office, country or manufacturer. The whole knee jerk reaction people have of 'tunes void you warranty' simply isn't true, it would only apply to the powertrain at worst and would have to be a verifiable issue to actually be credibly denied.

I've had a number of mildly modified cars and just about every area modified has had dealer warranty coverage and I've never had any trouble with it. I'm not advocating every one running out and getting a tune, but it's not the peril some folks make it out to be.
Taking a 330e to over 400 horsepower is not a mild modification and could stress the 4 cylinder beyond design limits. While a JB4 might be overlooked this would be less likely to be overlooked when making a warranty claim related to the power train.
The electric motor is rated at 112hp. Is not that outrageous to get the 4cyl to 290hp or what am I missing?
It is tuned to 184 HP stock, though it probably has similar internals to the gas only version. It could make for a nice sleeper or you can pimp it out and make it look like an M340. Doesn't look like we have this in the states yet, or when it is coming, but they are not that popular here as 3 series is not really viewed as an economy car here so we don't get the 3 cylinder version or even the 320 with a manual.
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Why would you waste your money on that. You should have waited a year or two for the next gen M3 to come out and tune that. Actually, you really should just wait 7 more years until the NEXT NEXT gen M3 comes out and mod that....well maybe wait 14 years for the NEXT NEXT NEXT gen m3 to come out and mod that one instead.

^^^obviously kidding, but i feel like this is how every post goes on this forum
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Not sure if there's any YouTube video pitting a tuned 330e against a model 3 performance. It would probably be no contest though as Model 3 can go against six figure porches and this car might stand a chance against the previous gen M2 or M3 in a straight line. It is the ultimate commuter car that you can quickly flash back to stock whenever or just drive with a light foot in all electric mode. Save gas or haul ass.
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thank you for your detailed post of specs and pictures. You're the real star.
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Beautiful car. Congratulations!
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Civics and integras back in the day were tuned to over 1000 HP but they were at most stock bottom end not 100 percent stock with just software tune.
You're kidding, right???

To the OP. That's a nice looking car!
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Civics and integras back in the day were tuned to over 1000 HP but they were at most stock bottom end not 100 percent stock with just software tune.
You're kidding, right???

To the OP. That's a nice looking car!
No not kidding but they are track monsters that can do a quarter mile in under 8 seconds.
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No not kidding but they are track monsters that can do a quarter mile in under 8 seconds.
They would need a fully built motor with force induction added, etc. Basically almost nothing about the motor would be from the original car. A tune wouldn't even get them 50 HP on a stock setup.
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No not kidding but they are track monsters that can do a quarter mile in under 8 seconds.
They would need a fully built motor with force induction added, etc. Basically almost nothing about the motor would be from the original car. A tune wouldn't even get them 50 HP on a stock setup.
The new civic type r and accord could benefit more from software tuning as they have turbos. That engine makes over 300 horsepower stock in the type r. A tune should get to over 400 horsepower without the benefit of an electric motor. Also it runs on regular 87 octane stock in the accord with similar numbers to the B48 330i.
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The new civic type r and accord could benefit more from software tuning as they have turbos. That engine makes over 300 horsepower stock in the type r. A tune should get to over 400 horsepower without the benefit of an electric motor. Also it runs on regular 87 octane stock in the accord with similar numbers to the B48 330i.
That wouldn't suprise me with the new type r. Back in the day they would be lucky to make 300 horsepower let along 1,000. There wasn't one making anywhere near that unless it had the major changes I mentioned.
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