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      01-26-2020, 06:15 PM   #1
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Chassis vs tires- which is king?

Can someone offer their opinion on this hypothetical. Which vehicle would handle better and/or be quicker around a track?

A base rwd 330i with Michelin pilot super sport summer tires OR

A m-sport 330i with track handling package wearing Grand touring all season tires.

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How would the two be compared to last option:

M-Sport 330 with, Tracking Handling package and with staggered Michelin pilot super sport summer tires?
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Chassis vs tires- which is king?

Depending on the all season tires likely M330. AWD would overcome differences in tire type
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Depending on the all season tires likely M330. AWD would overcome differences in tire type
Oh whoops i meant RWD M sport 330i.
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Depending on the all season tires likely M330. AWD would overcome differences in tire type
Oh whoops i meant RWD M sport 330i.
In that case tires, in theory .
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Can someone offer their opinion on this hypothetical. Which vehicle would handle better and/or be quicker around a track?

A base rwd 330i with Michelin pilot super sport summer tires OR

A m-sport 330i with track handling package wearing Grand touring all season tires.
May I suggest a 3rd option?
Base 330i + Summer tire + Front and rear sway bar upgrade = WIN!
I think it would be better than both the options you listed.

That being said, I have yet to drive any G20 3series.
As long as the base suspension is not bouncy (i.e. is well damped), a sway bar upgrade with sways may very well be the best bet.
In the past (f30), the base suspension is horribly damped. Adding springs, sways, or summers won't fix that. New shocks are required on those.

If the G20 rides flatly (no vertical bounce/float), then sways and summers would be mint.

Looking at videos, I do see that the G20 base suspension has more nose dive than any F30.
Perhaps the nose dive is better controlled in the optional suspensions. I don't know yet.
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May I suggest a 3rd option?
Base 330i + Summer tire + Front and rear sway bar upgrade = WIN!
I think it would be better than both the options you listed.

That being said, I have yet to drive any G20 3series.
As long as the base suspension is not bouncy (i.e. is well damped), a sway bar upgrade with sways may very well be the best bet.
In the past (f30), the base suspension is horribly damped. Adding springs, sways, or summers won't fix that. New shocks are required on those.

If the G20 rides flatly (no vertical bounce/float), then sways and summers would be mint.

Looking at videos, I do see that the G20 base suspension has more nose dive than any F30.
Perhaps the nose dive is better controlled in the optional suspensions. I don't know yet.

It corners pretty flatly from my experience. Eg. On a Sharp turn, the front hood remains pretty level. The car is noticeably stiffer and firmer than my old F30. The new lift related dampers work pretty well.
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