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It's a shame since they pulled off a huge kidney grille on the 3.0 CSL Hommage, proving (to me at least) it's not so much that the grille is huge but how it's styled.
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if nothing else, the hood line meets the grill...
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Thanks for doing this, visually recesses back into the car a little this way being blackened..
One thing we can not get from these is if there is any curvature to the grill or if it is completely flat
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Just like always - it looks weird but in a year or two, it'll look fine and the existing grills will look outdated.
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My last hope is that the next gen M2 front will look something similar to this, as it is in between the current size of „usual" kidneys and the next 4er/M3/M4... |
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Those of you who are having a fit about the kidney grills not being "BMW like".......way before BMW had short/small grills they had tall grills. They have had grills of all shapes and sizes and every time a significant change was made people always complained at first....and then sooner or later started liking and buying it.
I've been on BMW forums since the mid 90's and a BMWCCA member for 30+ years. I remember people writing letters to the Roundel and writing posts on the forums throwing tantrums about things on the new models they didn't like, including the kidney grills of the E36 vs. the E30 and the E90 vs. the E46.....then some time later many of the same people would start liking the same grills that they were complaining about and would start buying the new BMW's with said hideous grills (or whatever else they were complaining about). It's always something...before my time it was the square tail lights vs. round tail lights on the 2002, etc. All I know.....having seen this sort of thing MANY times in the last few decades most of the people that are complaining about the grill/lights/etc. on the G22 WILL like it and buy it after some time has passed. The rest that don't end up liking it...lucky for you there are other cars that would match your tastes better...enjoy your time with other brands. After the G22 has been revealed in official pictures, and we've all seen it in person we can make a better judgement on whether the new kidney design and other elements of the car look good or not. Maybe it won't look good....maybe the M-Sport would look good but the standard version won't, etc. It's premature to judge right now, but if past experience is any indication many people will like it right from the beginning, and most of the others within a year or so. BMW could have played it safe with a more conventional design, but they decided to be bold. Sometimes that's exactly what's needed. Last edited by rodybmw; 02-20-2020 at 06:22 PM.. |
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I've also been around BMW from the days of my father's 'New Class' 2000 sedan. Seen and heard all the comments through the years, particularly in the motoring press, and almost 20 years on the forums. BMW have been criticised from all quarters, "too conservative", in one breath, to "how dare they change anything" in another. Also the thinking of "what a BMW should be like". Some users fixate on one generation of BMW, and feel all other generations should reflect that one 'frame' in time. Whether it is the hood shut line, grille, use of the 'M' (outside of the M-car), or whatever, don't seem to know how varied the legacy of BMW has been. I don't particularly like everything BMW are doing these days, but do believe we have some superb choices in the current range of models. I still feel it is like entering a sweetie shop, when visiting a BMW showroom. |
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Yawn, BMW needs to hurry up and just reveal these damn cars already. I'm sure so many of us are so tired of waiting for the next M3/4. If they are going to butcher it, its better to just rip off the bandage than to slowly peel it.
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Sorry BMW but when I am ready to replace my loaded 2018 530e, it won't be a BMW if they look like this. |
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I know at the time, many had a similar problem with Audi "doing such a thing" and spoiling their perceived image. Many on here see the Audi as acceptable, as if it is now good taste. Is it we have simply got used to it? Although it is still debated in some circles, even years after the grille's introduction. Still photoshopping alternatives.... see this link. https://www.carthrottle.com/post/y842elj/ I'm sure the BMW grille controversy will, like Audi's, rumble on for years. We won't all like the BMW design language, which ever way it goes. Remember Bangle's polarization of opinion. I personally don't like the huge BMW grilles, but I don't like the Audi or Mercedes approach either. |
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Yes, that’s exactly what happened to the Pontiac Aztek.
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As for the photoshopped and partially leaked bits of cars, they tease as well. We see the speculation, a lot of guesswork going on, ahead of the real deal. Have we thought, some folks will see the new models when released and see them as "stunning new designs". "At last BMW are moving forward", type comments. Orders will be made, we then start seeing them on the road and we get used to them. We'll even start taking second looks, be tempted to have one ourselves. |
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