Bimmerpost
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
BIMMERPOST Universal Forums General BMW News and Cars Discussion Future BMW model information

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      02-15-2017, 05:08 PM   #1057
SCOTT26
Major General
SCOTT26's Avatar
4447
Rep
5,656
Posts

Drives: A big F-off German Truck.
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: WORLDWIDE

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ynguldyn View Post
A few minor updates in the top post.
Yes she will be a beauty.
Attached Images
 
__________________
The M850i is evidence that BMW have got their mojo back when it comes to dynamic sports cars...
Appreciate 2
Elijaih11.00
1230vani419.00

      02-15-2017, 05:20 PM   #1058
ynguldyn
Colonel
3765
Rep
2,683
Posts

Drives: battery powered tv on wheels
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Boston

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Elijaih View Post
Do you know if a manual transmission is an option for the M4 CS?
Doesn't appear to be the case

Quote:
Originally Posted by mkoesel View Post
But still no water injected S55 expected, yeah? Lots of speculation about that right now. It is difficult to see the real motivation for this car is it doesn't get at least some power upgrade.
It'll only get the ZCP power increase.
Appreciate 1
Elijaih11.00

      02-15-2017, 06:30 PM   #1059
derritterauskanada
Enlisted Member
17
Rep
32
Posts

Drives: '11 VW GTi
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: For now NA, Euro soon

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by SCOTT26 View Post
No. The 2er Coupe,Cabrio and therefore M2 will remain RWD.
Any chance of a shootingbrake/hatch verson of the 2er coupe?
Appreciate 0
      02-15-2017, 07:10 PM   #1060
Elijaih
Private
United_States
11
Rep
52
Posts

Drives: 335is vert & C63 Both Modded
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: DFW, TX

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by SCOTT26 View Post
Yes she will be a beauty.

Scott, Can you confirm if there will be a MT option for the M4 CS? For me, the MT will make or break that purchase. I'm looking to sell my MCT for a MT, not for a DCT.

Thank you!

P.S. I hope ynguldyn's data is incomplete and that MT is an option! Thanks ynguldyn for responding!
Appreciate 0
      02-15-2017, 07:14 PM   #1061
SCOTT26
Major General
SCOTT26's Avatar
4447
Rep
5,656
Posts

Drives: A big F-off German Truck.
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: WORLDWIDE

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Elijaih View Post
Scott, Can you confirm if there will be a MT option for the M4 CS? For me, the MT will make or break that purchase. I'm looking to sell my MCT for a MT, not for a DCT.

Thank you!

P.S. I hope ynguldyn's data is incomplete and that MT is an option! Thanks ynguldyn for responding!
Sorry I do not think there will be a manual with the CS just as there is no manual with the GTS and indeed it's precursors which were DKG and the M3 CSL which was SMG. They take these considerations into the global market and the higher percentage would be for M DKG. A future M4 CSL (Hypothetical) would be M DKG.
__________________
The M850i is evidence that BMW have got their mojo back when it comes to dynamic sports cars...
Appreciate 0
      02-15-2017, 07:15 PM   #1062
SCOTT26
Major General
SCOTT26's Avatar
4447
Rep
5,656
Posts

Drives: A big F-off German Truck.
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: WORLDWIDE

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by derritterauskanada View Post
Any chance of a shootingbrake/hatch verson of the 2er coupe?
No.
__________________
The M850i is evidence that BMW have got their mojo back when it comes to dynamic sports cars...
Appreciate 0
      02-15-2017, 08:25 PM   #1063
jeff@autocouture
Lieutenant General
jeff@autocouture's Avatar
733
Rep
13,735
Posts

Drives: 1988 528e E28, 2013 MB C63 AMG
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: New Jersey

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by SCOTT26 View Post
Sorry I do not think there will be a manual with the CS just as there is no manual with the GTS and indeed it's precursors which were DKG and the M3 CSL which was SMG. They take these considerations into the global market and the higher percentage would be for M DKG. A future M4 CSL (Hypothetical) would be M DKG.
Will the CS be a limited car? and is it actually confirmed it will have OLEDs? I can't seem to find if and who confirmed that! thanks
Appreciate 0
      02-15-2017, 08:30 PM   #1064
MalibuBimmer
Founder, Knights of the Roundel website
MalibuBimmer's Avatar
United_States
958
Rep
1,726
Posts

Drives: 2015 M4 and 2018 AMG GT
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: The Santa Monica Mountains, CA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2018 Mercedes AMG GT  [0.00]
2018 Audi Q3  [0.00]
2015 BMW M4  [5.00]
I know this is going to start an argument, and it's probably an old one, but it should be "shooting break."

The "break" refers to a flat wagon used to break draft horses. Englishmen in the late 1800s started to go out on shooting parties (pheasant and grouse mostly) using these big flat wagons, sometimes adding seats. Voila, the "shooting break" was born.

The English called their first motorized stationwagons "shooting breaks" after the shooting carriage. (They were also called stationwagons because that's where they went to pick up passengers.)

Then cars had "brakes" which are a very important article. (Wagons had brakes, too, but also had the shafts and the breeching that used horse-power to help stop the wagon.) And we corrupted "shooting break" "shooting brake." Ugh. It doesn't give credit to the real origin of the damn vehicle.

Oh, well.
__________________
Previously: 2014 i8; 2013 650i convertible; 2013 650i Gran Coupe; 2013 X1; 2010 550i GT; 2010 535 GT; 2010 Z4 3.5; 2008 535ixt; 2007 M6 convertible; 2006 650i convertible; 1996 Z3; 1980 633CSi; 1978 630CS; 1972 3.0CS; 1971 Bavaria. (1971; 1979-2005 & 2017 - ? -- the Mercedes years.)
Appreciate 3
      02-15-2017, 08:31 PM   #1065
mkoesel
Moderator
United_States
5715
Rep
18,579
Posts

Drives: No BMW for now
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Canton, MI

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ynguldyn View Post
It'll only get the ZCP power increase.
And that's essentially no increase since you can already get that by ordering ZCP.

I have to say, I am still not seeing the vision here. The ~$5k Competition Package already amps up the performance as well as provides distinctly racier interior and exterior treatment above and beyond the standard M4. Why do we need another factory effort that achieves the same sort of goals in a different way, but adds even more to the bottom line? That's a rhetorical question, and I suppose I really need to reserve judgment until the official product announcement, but try as I may, it's tough to be excited about this car right now.
Appreciate 1
CanAutM311333.00

      02-17-2017, 01:25 PM   #1066
zibawal
Major
United_States
35
Rep
1,106
Posts

Drives: 2012 X5D
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: SFO BAY AREA

iTrader: (0)

Any idea how much mileage boost for i3 LCI
Appreciate 0
      02-17-2017, 01:30 PM   #1067
jpdchicago
Major
723
Rep
1,020
Posts

Drives: M4 gts
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Chicago area

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ynguldyn View Post
Doesn't appear to be the case


It'll only get the ZCP power increase.
Are you sure about ZCP power only? Why the GTS hood then? Just for looks?
Appreciate 0
      02-18-2017, 08:58 PM   #1068
Sir Loin
M3AT LOVER
Sir Loin's Avatar
United_States
273
Rep
1,851
Posts

Drives: Silverstone F80 M3
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Seattle

iTrader: (0)

Any guesses or rumor on when production of the new X2 will start? What I would really like is an X1 M35i, but looks like only X2 may have M35i.
__________________
2015 F80 M3 | SSII ext SO int | M-DCT | 19" Black Wheels
Appreciate 0
      02-19-2017, 08:19 AM   #1069
mkoesel
Moderator
United_States
5715
Rep
18,579
Posts

Drives: No BMW for now
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Canton, MI

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Loin View Post
Any guesses or rumor on when production of the new X2 will start? What I would really like is an X1 M35i, but looks like only X2 may have M35i.
I believe not until early 2018 based on comments SCOTT has made in the recent past.

He also suggested that the X1 will get an M35i model too though, so that's good news for you. It stands to reason since the G01 X3 will see the addition of an M40i model this year as well. And although the next generation G05 X5 info in the OP lists a "50i" instead of "M50i", I think it's a safe bet that it (and the X6) will also adopt the latter M Performance model name. So, in time, the entire X lineup will feature an M Performance model. For that matter so will the entire Gxx passenger car lineup, thereby covering every vehicle BMW sells in the US (except the i3 and i8).
Appreciate 0
      02-19-2017, 11:35 AM   #1070
CanAutM3
Lieutenant General
CanAutM3's Avatar
Canada
11333
Rep
17,036
Posts

Drives: 2019 M4cs
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Montreal

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2019 BMW M4cs  [0.00]
2018 Audi RS3  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by jpdchicago View Post
Are you sure about ZCP power only? Why the GTS hood then? Just for looks?
Improved cooling and reduced weight are actual performance benefits.
__________________
///M4cs 2019 F82 Lime Rock Grey
MPE / CF Mirror caps / MP-HAS / GC Camber plates
Appreciate 0
      02-24-2017, 06:05 PM   #1071
maragulon
Enlisted Member
14
Rep
45
Posts

Drives: E46 330Ci
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Poland

iTrader: (0)

@ynguldyn Do you have some info about EU 1 series hatch?
Appreciate 1
      02-25-2017, 08:31 AM   #1072
jpdchicago
Major
723
Rep
1,020
Posts

Drives: M4 gts
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Chicago area

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by CanAutM3 View Post
Improved cooling and reduced weight are actual performance benefits.
You do have a point. Might also allow for a little extra boost to, may be, 460 hp just for CS bragging rights.
Appreciate 0
      02-27-2017, 08:49 PM   #1073
swagon
Brigadier General
swagon's Avatar
No_Country
4957
Rep
4,989
Posts

Drives: E82|F80|6MT
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: .

iTrader: (0)

A member here uploaded an interesting txt file containing BMW AG models.

re M4 CS:
Quote:
3S71,P,BMW PKW,4',F82,M4 CS,COU,,,EUR,LL,RWD,2,MECH,,,,
3S72,P,BMW PKW,4',F82,M4 CS,COU,,,EUR,RL,RWD,2,MECH,,,,
3S73,P,BMW PKW,4',F82,M4 CS,COU,,,USA,LL,RWD,2,MECH,,,,
3S81,P,BMW PKW,4',F82,M4 CS,COU,,,EUR,LL,RWD,2,AUT,,,,
3S82,P,BMW PKW,4',F82,M4 CS,COU,,,EUR,RL,RWD,2,AUT,,,,
3S83,P,BMW PKW,4',F82,M4 CS,COU,,,USA,LL,RWD,2,AUT,,,,
Also contains some other cars (G32, F90 AWD)

MECH means manual transmission, but there are cars that never had a manual transmission option and yet it states "mech" in the line.
__________________
Appreciate 0
      03-02-2017, 05:44 PM   #1074
Axxlrod
Dude man
Axxlrod's Avatar
28
Rep
154
Posts

Drives: 550/MB GLS550/2017 Acura NSX
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: San Diego

iTrader: (0)

Any updates on the upcoming X7 model?

I've been waiting for this model for a looong time. Seems like all info about this model went dark several months ago. Any updates?

I'm getting tired of driving my wife's Mercedes GL when we take her car. The Comand system is crap compared to iDrive.
Appreciate 0
      03-06-2017, 03:04 AM   #1075
ynguldyn
Colonel
3765
Rep
2,683
Posts

Drives: battery powered tv on wheels
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Boston

iTrader: (0)

M8.
Appreciate 1
      03-06-2017, 08:09 AM   #1076
mkoesel
Moderator
United_States
5715
Rep
18,579
Posts

Drives: No BMW for now
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Canton, MI

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ynguldyn View Post
- M8: F91 Cab, F92 Coupe, F93 GC. Coming in 2019-2020.
More evidence that the 8 is the new 6. Model codes follow in direct succession from the F90 M5.

It seems that things will be a bit awkward if they indeed go through with the naming change. The 8 will surely be positioned above the 7 in price. Yet for the high performance models, the M8 will presumably get the ~650hp V8 (whether it be the swan song for the S63 or the debut of an M version of the new 4.0 V8) while the 7 Series will top out with the M760i M Performance model with the ~600hp V12.

And of course the question remains - is the 6 now the Gran Turismo and only the Gran Turismo, or is there more?
Appreciate 0
      03-06-2017, 12:01 PM   #1077
5against8
Private First Class
43
Rep
196
Posts

Drives: F80. 3 pedals.
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Salt Lake City

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by mkoesel View Post

And of course the question remains - is the 6 now the Gran Turismo and only the Gran Turismo, or is there more?
Scott keeps saying there will also be a "new 6" other than the 6GT.. I really hope so.

"There is going to be an all new 6er. Just different from today's car ie no longer a luxury GT but close to the tradition of BMW Coupes like the E9 and original 6er." [from the model code list thread]
__________________
Current: '16 F80 BSM/SO 6MT | '17 F54 Clubman S [Wife's]
Previous: '14 E84 28i, Valencia/Terra/X-line, '12 F25 35i ZAP, Jet/Chestnut, JB Stage 1, '88 E24 635CSi, '00 S4 Imola/Black Stg II APR/Milltek/AWE & some garbage GM SUVs!

Last edited by 5against8; 03-06-2017 at 12:07 PM..
Appreciate 0
      03-07-2017, 08:04 AM   #1078
mkoesel
Moderator
United_States
5715
Rep
18,579
Posts

Drives: No BMW for now
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Canton, MI

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by 5against8 View Post
Scott keeps saying there will also be a "new 6" other than the 6GT. I really hope so.
True, and I've seen plenty of discussion about it, but it certainly isn't very well defined at this point. Add to that the confusion about which spy shots are the 8 and which are the 6 and it is anyone's guess as to how it plays out.

The other thing is, with the size of the luxury coupe market shrinking slowly but surely, these new products seem strangely ill timed. Its marketing gymnastics to keep them from overlapping too much with each other.

Mercedes for example has a bit of challenge in this area right now. They just launched a new E Class coupe and convertible. This, after they began offering a C Class coupe and convertible for the first time ever last year as well. So now you can get C, E, and S in all four major form factors - sedan, estate, coupe, convertible (excepting an S Class Estate). Great.

But, wait a minute. There are no V8 powered AMG models planned for this new E class coupe and convertible even though you can get the lower C class spec'd that way. In fact, there won't even be E43 models. Only an E400 for now. So you have this bizarre situation where you can get the sedan in AMG form with either a 390hp V6 or 620hp V8 while the coupe/convertible top out with the 330hp V6. Heck, even the wagon can be had with the V8. Why? Presumably because they don't want the E coupe/convertible to eat the S coupe/convertible sales (or get eaten by C coupe/convertible sales). Apparently, the market can handle the sedan overlap but that's not the case for the two-door models. Ok, fair enough. But then why bother with the two-door E's to begin with? Tiny market it would seem, no?

Will BMW be in the same spot? Too early to tell. It all seems a bit fragile though.
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
future bmw, release date, upcoming bmw

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:08 PM.




g20
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST