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      08-26-2009, 01:15 PM   #1
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new lens or flash?

i know the price is the big point but if it doesnt matter which would be the better choice?

canon 10-22 or
430exii i have no need for 580

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      08-26-2009, 02:04 PM   #2
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Depends on the majority of your photo needs. If you are low light get the flash, if not get the lens. I would get the flash first, but my needs might be different than yours.
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      08-26-2009, 05:11 PM   #3
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You're gonna get both at some point. Just pick one and save up for the other...
very true.

i already have 3 lens now im saving up for a new flash!
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Make sure you get an off-camera wireless kit. Shoe-mount flashes FTL.
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      08-30-2009, 01:29 AM   #7
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i vote flash too... unless you REALLY need a wide angle but 18 is pretty wide to begin with.
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I would say no kit bag is complete without one flash regardless of situations. You really never know when you are in need of one.
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      08-31-2009, 12:45 PM   #9
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If you do a lot of portrait/people pictures, then the flash. If you do a lot of landscape, the lens.
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If you do a lot of portrait/people pictures, then the flash. If you do a lot of landscape, the lens.
+1.

Also, you need 580 EX. You must have heard lighting is everything in Photography... something you cannot cheap out

The Lens + the Flash.

You can cheap out on the accessories, the camera body even (to a degree), but not the lens or the flash.

The flash metering algorithm and system is more updated and advanced in 580 than the 430. Also, 580 can be used as a master to slave other flash, which WILL come handy in case you do have to shoot something. 430 can only be used as slave. Also, there is a small white reflector piece with 580 that 430 does not have, which MAKES A HUGE difference in light bouncing when you take indoor shots.

Trust me, you want a 580.

UNLESS, of course, you find a great deal on 430 (less than $200 brand new), and then in a couple years, get a 580 (or whichever version they have at that time) and use the 430 as a slave.

As for the lens, 10-22 is a GREAT lens and it performs very well even in low-lit situation.

If you take a lot of landscape, architectural, general scenery, or event photos, you need 10-22mm.. but if you dont take a lot of specific photos above, then you can probably hold off on the 10-22mm.

Also, because you have Xti, and you really enjoy your photography, you might want to consider if you will ever shell out for a FF camera (such as the 5D II, or even 1D). If you do, you might want to consider holding off on the 10-22, because they dont work on the FF and on the FF, all you need is the 17-40 f4L (which is about the same price as 10-22 I believe) for the wide angle shots.

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all you need is the 17-40 f4L ...for the wide angle shots.
until you get greedy and senseless and want the 14mm F 2.8 L II....

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until you get greedy and senseless and want the 14mm F 2.8 L II....

lets not get over there

The 14mm is like a specialty lens, just like the tilt lens, for example.. I mean.. the only thing that I can think of that requires a 14mm (which if you put on a tripod, you can ALMOST see your own trip leg out front, thats how WIDe it is)... I dont know.. on the 14mm, I took a quick 2 min tryout at B&H, its wide and sharp, but the edges are quite distorted, just like it is on the 10-22mm.

Besides, if you really want to take serious architecture or architecture-related scenes, you need a tilt lens.

Anyway, thank god I know for sure I WILL NOT need that lens... how much is that? like $1800?

17-40L is very sharp and good enough in most of the situations, aeven though it is only a f4.
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thanks for all the replies so far and it seems like an even split.

i deff do not expect to be upgrading to a ff cam anytime soon.


i have access to a 10-22 via my father from work but its not an on demand lens. I know i want a flash and need a flash. i dont need all the extra capabilities of the 580 but being able to make the 580 a master off body is good, but how often will i be doing that. ahhh so many questions and options i must ask myself.
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the camera should be wireless. no kit is completed until you have flash
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