Bimmerpost
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
BIMMERPOST Universal Forums General Automotive (non-BMW) Talk + Photos/Videos Wall Street Journal: The End of Car Ownership

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      06-21-2017, 06:37 AM   #1
expidia
First Lieutenant
expidia's Avatar
135
Rep
317
Posts

Drives: 2016 X5 35i
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Upstate New York

iTrader: (0)

Wall Street Journal: The End of Car Ownership

Oh S#*T. . . say it ain't so!

"Owning a BMW or other luxury brand in the future might be a luxury akin to owning a horse"

I've only owned my X5 for just over 3 months. I'm 68 and owned many cars. I have to say I've always wanted one and now that I actually own one . . . its a "thrill and an honor" to drive it every-time I get behind the wheel

Now the electrics and the Ubers are trying to take them away from us.
yes, yes I know BMW makes an electric . . . but to me, driving an electric is like kissing your sister

Ya think Tesla paid enough to sponsor and get this type of article published?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-end...hip-1498011001

Last edited by expidia; 06-21-2017 at 03:05 PM..
Appreciate 1
      06-21-2017, 08:02 AM   #2
MadOzodi
Second Lieutenant
United_States
53
Rep
191
Posts

Drives: '14 EBII M235i
Join Date: May 2017
Location: MidWest

iTrader: (0)

I blame millennials...smh.
Appreciate 1
      06-21-2017, 08:09 AM   #3
fbsm
Lieutenant Colonel
739
Rep
1,701
Posts

Drives: 4wheels
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: backroads

iTrader: (0)

Its all a central planners wet dream......

Outside of the most dense urban areas their little fantasies are impractical and not cost effective.....in other words nothing will change
Appreciate 4
Viffermike1725.50
ShocknAwe2463.00
pgviper219.00

      06-21-2017, 09:45 AM   #4
David70
Colonel
United_States
857
Rep
2,039
Posts

Drives: 06 Z4M Coupe - 13 Cadillac ATS
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Cincinnati, OH

iTrader: (1)

I strongly agree. Currently our cars (we have 3, 2 daily drivers and a weekend car car) are used about an hour a day and sit for 23 hours (daily drivers) . Uber gets rid of the driver, ride becomes half the current cost, far more use them, far more cars available and likely we would get rid of one car immediately. Wife is then dropped off at the front door downtown, calls an Uber on the way out of the building, saves money, saves time, saves hassle. Depreciation, maintenance, insurance, repair all turns into a cost for a ride.
Cabs and Uber don't currently work because of the expensive driver sitting in the car, one of highest costs of the ride.

Funny when I hear the people on these forums talk about their car being taken away, manufacturers will provide what the market wants.

If my car can operate at night, during the day when I don't need it, or on the weekend without me in it I would be happy to share my car (likely for some $$) with friends and family right now.
__________________
2006 Z4M Coupe - Stromung exhaust, ZHP knob, stubby antenna, clutch delay delete
Appreciate 0
      06-21-2017, 06:48 PM   #5
ShocknAwe
1Addict
ShocknAwe's Avatar
United_States
2463
Rep
7,157
Posts

Drives: E82 N54 Mutt
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Charleston

iTrader: (22)

Fuck cabs. Taxi, cab, uber, lyft, whatever man, they're all the damn same. Thanks, I'd rather not sit in the uncleaned slime of the 10,000 people before me. It's like a nastier version of sloppy seconds. I'll ride a bike first.
__________________
2010 135i M-Sport 6MT Jet Black
N54 | BUILD THREAD | GARAGE SALE
Appreciate 3
      06-21-2017, 07:11 PM   #6
angelr
Lieutenant
171
Rep
511
Posts

Drives: 07 aw/ir m coupe, 2013 S4
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Cedarpines park, Ca

iTrader: (1)

I just enjoy driving, I would never choose to be driven around....it's a highlight of my day.
Appreciate 4
      06-21-2017, 08:01 PM   #7
DarksideM4
Second Lieutenant
DarksideM4's Avatar
United_States
200
Rep
246
Posts

Drives: 2015 BSM M4
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Allen, TX

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
2015 BMW M4  [5.00]
As long as it doesn't become illegal to drive an manually operated car on the open roads, I like both options. TBH rather people be driven by autonomous cars in morning and afternoon commute so less likelihood for accidents. Pleasure driving will become more of a luxury market for those willing to pay.

Let the masses be driven I say.
Appreciate 0
      06-22-2017, 08:25 AM   #8
BMW F22
Major General
BMW F22's Avatar
United_States
1946
Rep
9,631
Posts

Drives: ///M235i
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Bay Area

iTrader: (8)

The article forgot one important point: in order to support the demand for those that don't own cars, others must own cars. So car ownerships are not going away, ever.
Appreciate 0
      06-22-2017, 08:52 AM   #9
fbsm
Lieutenant Colonel
739
Rep
1,701
Posts

Drives: 4wheels
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: backroads

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by BMW F22 View Post
The article forgot one important point: in order to support the demand for those that don't own cars, others must own cars. So car ownerships are not going away, ever.
What it will do is drive up the price

Fewer units = higher prices
Appreciate 0
      06-22-2017, 12:18 PM   #10
CTinline-six
Welcome to Jurassic Park
CTinline-six's Avatar
United_States
3985
Rep
2,189
Posts

Drives: '09 328i, '98 Wrangler
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Connecticut

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by fbsm View Post
What it will do is drive up the price

Fewer units = higher prices
^^This might be true in the future.


I always find these articles amusing though. They discuss cars going away completely but then forget about those who live miles away from anything. Their solution is always "well, those people will move to the city and enjoy public transportation". Yup, because that works SO well now.

CT implemented the FastTrak bus system in Hartford. The stops were not well planned, and not enough people ride the buses to make them worthwhile. All they did was add buses to the already backed up streets. One of my co-workers actually took the bus for a few weeks to save gas money, and found it took her much longer to get to and from work.

I'm sure with technology advancements public transportation and hybrid vehicles will start to have a much larger presence, but cars going away completely? Not a chance.
__________________
Josh
Appreciate 0
      06-22-2017, 12:23 PM   #11
CTinline-six
Welcome to Jurassic Park
CTinline-six's Avatar
United_States
3985
Rep
2,189
Posts

Drives: '09 328i, '98 Wrangler
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Connecticut

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by MadOzodi View Post
I blame millennials...smh.
This is part of it, to be honest. I'm 26. I had my learner's permit at 15, license and bought my own car by 16. I had friends in college that at 24 still didn't have a license or even a permit. They just had no desire to drive. If they had jobs they walked or had people (mainly parents) drive them. This was fascinating to me because I couldn't imagine not having a license past high school. I had to commute to college as well as work. I guess most my age are more concerned with social media and smart phones.
__________________
Josh
Appreciate 1
      06-22-2017, 01:30 PM   #12
Sedoy
Captain
321
Rep
781
Posts

Drives: F10 535xi Triple Black
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: New England

iTrader: (0)

The real reason why they don't want to drive is because those millennials can't take their eyes off those damn phones!
__________________
.
Appreciate 3
      06-22-2017, 08:31 PM   #13
expidia
First Lieutenant
expidia's Avatar
135
Rep
317
Posts

Drives: 2016 X5 35i
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Upstate New York

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sedoy View Post
The real reason why they don't want to drive is because those millennials can't take their eyes off those damn phones!
Appreciate 0
      06-22-2017, 08:36 PM   #14
Delta0311
Banned
7395
Rep
10,130
Posts

Drives: 2011 BMW 335xi E92 2016 228xi
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: NJ

iTrader: (1)

You would have to pry my Bimmer from my cold dead hands. This is a snowflakes wet dream. Driving is just way too distracting, when you need to invest all your waking hours to getting triggered.
Appreciate 2
      06-22-2017, 08:51 PM   #15
Never_Enough
Banned
United_States
1949
Rep
2,479
Posts

Drives: Satan's Chariot 2.0
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: PA

iTrader: (6)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by expidia View Post
Oh S#*T. . . say it ain't so!

"Owning a BMW or other luxury brand in the future might be a luxury akin to owning a horse"

I've only owned my X5 for just over 3 months. I'm 68 and owned many cars. I have to say I've always wanted one and now that I actually own one . . . its a "thrill and an honor" to drive it every-time I get behind the wheel

Now the electrics and the Ubers are trying to take them away from us.
yes, yes I know BMW makes an electric . . . but to me, driving an electric is like kissing your sister

Ya think Tesla paid enough to sponsor and get this type of article published?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-end...hip-1498011001
Is it an M? If not, I:m curious as to what is thrilling...
Appreciate 0
      06-22-2017, 08:52 PM   #16
Never_Enough
Banned
United_States
1949
Rep
2,479
Posts

Drives: Satan's Chariot 2.0
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: PA

iTrader: (6)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sedoy View Post
The real reason why they don't want to drive is because those millennials can't take their eyes off those damn phones!
:w ord:
Appreciate 0
      06-23-2017, 12:04 PM   #17
expidia
First Lieutenant
expidia's Avatar
135
Rep
317
Posts

Drives: 2016 X5 35i
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Upstate New York

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Never_Enough View Post
Is it an M? If not, I:m curious as to what is thrilling...
Drives: MAZDASPEED6, Miata & Jetta
. . you need to ask???
Appreciate 0
      06-23-2017, 01:30 PM   #18
Never_Enough
Banned
United_States
1949
Rep
2,479
Posts

Drives: Satan's Chariot 2.0
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: PA

iTrader: (6)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by expidia View Post
Drives: MAZDASPEED6, Miata & Jetta
. . you need to ask???
Yea, that big super fast & road course king SUV you have trumps them all in performance. Oh, wait...

Also, you think this is all I have ever owned or driven. More

Go back in your cave.
Appreciate 0
      06-23-2017, 05:36 PM   #19
TomHudson
Major
615
Rep
1,102
Posts

Drives: 2011 E90 M3
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Toronto

iTrader: (0)

The ultimate direction for crappy electric self driving cars will be drive sharing, so you don't have to own the vehicle .
I got away from the bus and I'm not going to wait for my electric car pool/smell fest to save the planet!
It's one of those cerebral excessive that big cities come up with...
Appreciate 0
      06-23-2017, 05:58 PM   #20
antennahead
Captain
antennahead's Avatar
United_States
63
Rep
824
Posts

Drives: 2007 Z4MR silver grey
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Charleston, South Carolina

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sedoy View Post
The real reason why they don't want to drive is because those millennials can't take their eyes off those damn phones!
I got rear ended 3 years ago by a millennial holding a phone at 12 o'clock on her steering wheel ...... 12 o'clock didn't help her as she was staring at the screen texting as I watched her hit me....... she then fled the sceen of the accident
Appreciate 0
      06-23-2017, 10:42 PM   #21
buddalun
Lieutenant Colonel
buddalun's Avatar
United_States
639
Rep
1,948
Posts

Drives: 911, Tesla M3P, 330e
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: USA

iTrader: (7)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ShocknAwe View Post
Fuck cabs. Taxi, cab, uber, lyft, whatever man, they're all the damn same. Thanks, I'd rather not sit in the uncleaned slime of the 10,000 people before me. It's like a nastier version of sloppy seconds. I'll ride a bike first.
Have you ever sat in a public movie theater? How about a sporting event with public seating?

Or, do you live in a hermetically sealed chamber and only emerge to drive your car?
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:36 AM.




g20
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST