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      08-01-2019, 07:37 AM   #529
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I wish the C8 rear would look more like that

Like what? Flat?
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I'm 58, always have had at least one stick in the stable and always will god willing.
Oh, for sure. My statement certainly isn’t always the case. I was just trying to show that, with the C7 having likely the highest average age buyer of sports cars, while also having one of the lower manual take rates, there’s apparently not a lot of manual love from the over 60 crowd.
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Like what? Flat?
My thoughts exactly.
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Hey now. It's relative. Some of us prefer an athletic, 'flat' rear end ...

... which the 'vette has, doesn't it? It's just got too many creases and nonfunctional bits ... kind of like a 'thicc' onion with a spray-on tan and wrapped in granny dukes ...



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Like what? Flat?
I don't like lols
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C8 rear as to

a. Uma Thurman
b. Kate Upton
c. Jennifer Lopez
d. Kim Kardashian

For perspective, a would be Ferrari 458. d is probably the current Camaro.
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Hey now. It's relative. Some of us prefer an athletic, 'flat' rear end ...

... which the 'vette has, doesn't it? It's just got too many creases and nonfunctional bits ... kind of like a 'thicc' onion with a spray-on tan and wrapped in granny dukes ...



Shoot, I prefer athletic as well. To me though, athletic and flat can't coexist. Opinions, right? I'll take a girl that's not afraid of that squat rack.

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C8 rear as to

a. Uma Thurman
b. Kate Upton
c. Jennifer Lopez
d. Kim Kardashian

For perspective, a would be Ferrari 458. d is probably the current Camaro.
I'd say the C8 is probably a c...as she should be...

You thinking d?

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Shoot, I prefer athletic as well. To me though, athletic and flat can't coexist. Opinions, right? I'll take a girl that's not afraid of that squat rack.



I'd say the C8 is probably a c...as she should be...

You thinking d?
depends on what "d" is being referred to :-)
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depends on what "d" is being referred to :-)
Touché, good sir.
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While true they have suffered this issue, they have gotten better each generation.

Plus the previous shortcomings were always easy fixes once you had them "in hand"!
I truly "hope" the new Vette is a winner in every way. But...

When the C7 came out last... a friend of mine who works for BMW AG... wanted one really bad. You know manufactures have fleets of cars fill with cars from other car makers. My friend put in a "request" for the new then Vette... He drove it for four days to see what all the Hype was about. He said it was a really good car... but the suspension dampening wasn't calibrated for German roads. It had some weird harmonics on certain roads. He also said it was so fast! He mentioned that he saw 320 kph on the speedo and the car was still pulling hard. It scared him. lol But the deal breaker for him was.... he was driving quickly at 250 kph and had to brake down to 200 kph rather quickly bc of traffic... after that medium braking... the rotors were wrapped! He liked the C7 but he wasn't sold on the engineering of the car. So... he placed his order for the then new M4 coupe. I told him something funny... something I find very true... I said we American's don't know how to make a car... but we sure do KNOW how to make a missile or fighter jet!

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I truly "hope" the new Vette is a winner in every way. But...

When the C7 came out last... a friend of mine who works for BMW AG... wanted one really bad. You know manufactures have fleets of cars fill with cars from other car makers. My friend put in a "request" for the new then Vette... He drove it for four days to see what all the Hype was about. He said it was a really good car... but the suspension dampening wasn't calibrated for German roads. It had some weird harmonics on certain roads. He also said it was so fast! He mentioned that he saw 320 kph on the speedo and the car was still pulling hard. It scared him. lol But the deal breaker for him was.... he was driving quickly at 250 kph and had to brake down to 200 kph rather quickly bc of traffic... after that medium braking... the rotors were wrapped! He liked the C7 but he wasn't sold on the engineering of the car. So... he placed his order for the then new M4 coupe. I told him something funny... something I find very true... I said we American's don't know how to make a car... but we sure do KNOW how to make a missile or fighter jet!

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Gotta say, one short braking event warping rotors just doesn’t make sense.
Suspension story doesn’t sound legit either.
Your funny missile statement reminded me of this commercial, I really liked this.
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Gotta say, one short braking event warping rotors just doesn’t make sense.
Suspension story sounds a bit wonky also.
Yeah, I've done about the same(don't ask) in a shitty '99 with no issue.
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It's like a modern day Porsche 914. Love it in so many ways. Good on the general for reinventing themselves, there has been a lack of this for years now.
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Yeah, everyone losing their shit right now with the "under 60k" meme but my hot take prediction is that nobody will buy one under 60k, period, whether it be from options or dealer markup.

Z51 ie. the one you actually want, should take the price north of 70k easily.
In a couple years you’ll be able to get big discounts on these just like the c7.
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Gotta say, one short braking event warping rotors just doesn’t make sense.
Suspension story doesn’t sound legit either.
Your funny missile statement reminded me of this commercial, I really liked this.
The C7 in the first two years were chock full of issues. One of them was poorly fitted front rotors warping under hard braking. New rotors were fitted in 2015 to resolve the issue.

Even my new 2017 Grand Sport has to have a $350 suspension “update” to fix and recalibrate the magnetic-rheological shocks, because they didn’t quite get it right in the first place. But once they got it right...that suspension is MAGICAL.
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I stand corrected, thanks. Why wasn’t the work done under warranty?
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real or fake?

Hope it’s real, but most likely fake... we’ll find out August 15th
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I stand corrected, thanks. Why wasn’t the work done under warranty?
Because GM considers the original calibration functional. The $350 update is the new firmware for 2018-19 C7s with magical shocks.

It’s like APPLE charging for a patch to fix the battery life issue on the iPhones. Oh wait, APPLE DIDN’T charge for an iOS update to make the iPhone work right?!

Damn. At least CarPlay’s “free.”
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It's like a modern day Porsche 914. Love it in so many ways. Good on the general for reinventing themselves, there has been a lack of this for years now.
Really?

ATS-V
CTS-V
ELR
Volt
Bolt
C7

None of those cars come to mind as not being standard GM fare?
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Really?

ATS-V
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ELR
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None of those cars come to mind as not being standard GM fare?
Not really. Each is either a progression of a previous model or a re-packaging of an existing model ... and TBH, the C8 isn't one, either, though it's closer. All that's truly different and new is where the engine's located in the chassis.

The 914 was a massive departure for not just one, but two manufacturers, both of which were laser-focused on making rear-engine passenger cars until that point. The C8 is only revolutionary because GM hasn't made a mid-engine car since the Fiero -- which, by the way, was a reaction to a consumer trend that ended up being a fad. The C8 is also a reaction to a trend, but it's a far more practical and long-term one: cornering the affordable performance coupe market in the age of hybridization and EVs.
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Not really. Each is either a progression of a previous model or a re-packaging of an existing model ... and TBH, the C8 isn't one, either, though it's closer. All that's truly different and new is where the engine's located in the chassis.

The 914 was a massive departure for not just one, but two manufacturers, both of which were laser-focused on making rear-engine passenger cars until that point. The C8 is only revolutionary because GM hasn't made a mid-engine car since the Fiero -- which, by the way, was a reaction to a consumer trend that ended up being a fad. The C8 is also a reaction to a trend, but it's a far more practical and long-term one: cornering the affordable performance coupe market in the age of hybridization and EVs.
Wow. The Volt, progression of what previous GM vehicle? Bolt... based off what previous, or progression of what GM vehicle? Both EVs were complete clean-sheet designs. The 914 was a bigger leap than a clean-sheet EV architecture? LOL. ATS was a new design using the Alpha chassis, but the "new direction" was GM's first serious attempt at the 3 Series (and the M3); likewise the CTS-V targeting the M5.

The Fiero is any more of a fad than say the the Z3/Z4?
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