[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by ///M4ster Yoda

That's the 1st I've Heard of that. All other threads/posts on this subject lead me to believe that only the "lesser" 3 series were going to be built in Mexico. :

I posted this over two years ago:

https://g20.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...2&postcount=95

[JayPichardo]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

I posted this over two years ago:

https://g20.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...2&postcount=95

Will there be a 320i or is the 2 GC going after that entry level entry point?

[///M4ster Yoda]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

I posted this over two years ago:

https://g20.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...2&postcount=95

Yup. I read 5 pages of that thread way back. Upon opening it again the 1st post I saw on page 5 was you stating that the M340 xDrive was not going to be built in Mexico :

[BklynNYBMW]

When I ordered my 2018 340i Msport (November 2017). I was told production for the 340i Msport was moved to South Africa for the 2018 Model year. But only for the 340i. That was one reason why there was no more individual colors and I couldn't get the Tanzanite Blue. The car arrived Stateside April but because I wanted a PCD I had to wait until May to pick it up.

On a side note took it in for service today. The new X7 was in the Service bay for dealership training, it had no badges anywhere on it. A few new X5 and and a 8 series on the show room floor
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2017 X6 5.0 MSport, Carbon Black Metallic w/ black leather. All options except vented seats and B/O sound system
2018 340i MSport Xdrive sedan. Glacier Silver w/Oyster. All options except active cruise control and window shades

[InsideMan]

Originally Posted by tturedraider

ED is virtually never available right off the bat for new models. I seriously doubt BMW is going to completely eliminate ED for the 3er. It's their most popular model. If they end ED for the 3er they might as well end the program completely. That would be a very bad move for them. Not having ED available for the 3er would also be a very bad move for them. I don't believe BMWAG is that stupid. I sure hope they're not.

You can do ED on new models.

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by NH_F36

Will there be a 320i or is the 2 GC going after that entry level entry point?

US 320i was a blip in the planning in mid-2016, right when I wrote that post. They quickly changed their minds about bringing it here.

Doesn't mean it'll never show up, but right now the chances of it look pretty low.

[TJS///M3]

I definitely want a new G20, but I'm waiting for to order a M340xi.

So I guess that means it will still be produced in Germany, which is cool, because I think I'd like to do ED with it.

The question I would have is.. can I order it with the M performance parts that I want on it?

[bjcarls]

Originally Posted by JamRWS6

M3 was produced in Germany, most US 340s were not, including mine. M Sport is not the same as a full M car.

Nothing wrong with the SA cars and I'm sure it'll be the same for the Mexico cars once they are up and running.

Yep, just look at your VIN. I asked my dealer and he said the car was produced in Munich, I wanted the shorter lead-time. He was correct, the VIN has a production plant code of K which represents Munich. It's the idea of it being built in Germany...I loved my USA X5's, never had a problem with any of them.

[shoptb]

Also, regardless of where the car is made....you will still be able to do the American Performance Delivery. I did this for my first F30, and it was a fantastic experience. Sure, the museum isn't much to write home about, but the track time and factory tour were amazing. Well worth the investment in time.

[Powaup]

Originally Posted by pheerIx

Can't wait to see markups on 330s

Hehehe. Almost feels bad for those willing to pay. But then again not at all

[bimmer456]

Originally Posted by Powaup

Hehehe. Almost feels bad for those willing to pay. But then again not at all

Wait a year get these half price.

[SpenceRx]

I'm excited to see these in the road.

[MassBimmer]

Originally Posted by Powaup

Hehehe. Almost feels bad for those willing to pay. But then again not at all

Why do you think there would be a markup? It's a new model but not limited in any sense

[jmg]

Originally Posted by bjcarls

When I purchased my '17 340i M Sport, I was told the M versions come from Germany, mainly due to the parts are more common on euro spec cars. Basic 330's were Mexico and SA

The M cars are made in Germany because that's where the M division is and they have their own development and build cycle separate from BMW. The M Sports are BMWs with M Performance accessories, they have little to do with the M division besides the fact that M was involved in the design of the accessories. My old 340i M Sport, for example, was an South Africa 3 series. So while it might be true that the upcoming M340i might all be German made, it's is not true for the F30 M Sport.

[JamRWS6]

Originally Posted by jmg

The M cars are made in Germany because that's where the M division is and they have their own development and build cycle separate from BMW. The M Sports are BMWs with M Performance accessories, they have little to do with the M division besides the fact that M was involved in the design of the accessories. My old 340i M Sport, for example, was an South Africa 3 series. So while it might be true that the upcoming M340i might all be German made, it's is not true for the F30 M Sport.

Not entirely true. The ///M cars are built on the same production line as "ordinary" cars. X5 M and X6M are built in the USA.

[jmg]

Originally Posted by JamRWS6

Not entirely true. The ///M cars are built on the same production line as "ordinary" cars. X5 M and X6M are built in the USA.

You are right, they are on the same production line, but I said they have their own development and build cycle. They are totally different cars than the F30 M Sports and M340i and are developed by a separate division. I didn't know that about the X5M and X6M, thank for the info! I was mainly referring to the M3, M4.

[Powaup]

Originally Posted by MassBimmer

Why do you think there would be a markup? It's a new model but not limited in any sense

Trust me some dealers will. Hell I've seen Honda dealers marking up mini vans

[RichReg]

Originally Posted by InsideMan

You can do ED on new models.

The only way to order one that way (during the delayed availability period) is if the dealership is willing to take a unit out of their own allocation and put it into the European Delivery program.

Not saying it can't be done, but good luck with that on a brand new 3 Series design.

[alex2364]

Originally Posted by RichReg

Not saying it can't be done, but good luck with that on a brand new 3 Series design.

Anything can be done with enough $$$.

[RichReg]

Originally Posted by alex2364

Anything can be done with enough $$$.

Yes.
And that works especially well when buying a 4 Series priced near an M550i.
European Delivery is a great experience, but the discount is a such a sweetener.
I can remember a time when European Delivery for M cars was a BMWNA taboo.
Surprised they still allow it these days....

[bjcarls]

Originally Posted by jmg

You are right, they are on the same production line, but I said they have their own development and build cycle. They are totally different cars than the F30 M Sports and M340i and are developed by a separate division. I didn't know that about the X5M and X6M, thank for the info! I was mainly referring to the M3, M4.

I know, I've owned a few true M's, very different beasts, I was saying my wife's F30 m sport was a German built car based on the VIN and K code production.

[///M4ster Yoda]

Originally Posted by RichReg

Yes.
And that works especially well when buying a 4 Series priced near an M550i.
European Delivery is a great experience, but the discount is a such a sweetener.
I can remember a time when European Delivery for M cars was a BMWNA taboo.
Surprised they still allow it these days....

Unfortunately the discount on ED isn't really that great anymore