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2019+ BMW 3 AND 4-SERIES FORUMS (G2x Generation) General G20 Sedan / G22 Coupe / G26 Gran Coupe Discussions Toyota puts the B58B30O1 in the 2021 Supra (Same as BMW M*40i - 382hp / 369lb-ft)

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      07-04-2021, 01:47 PM   #67
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Been researching the '21 Supra 3.0 and it looks like it got the best B58 available and Dyno figures are 388hp and 421tq at the wheels... Which is crazy, why Toyota is allowed to pump the power more on their cars when it's already hundreds of lbs lighter and also cheaper
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      07-04-2021, 10:55 PM   #68
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Not to bounce the rubble but I too am with the 'who cares' crowd.

I think that Toyota / BMW shared the cost for developing the engine so we both benefited from the partnership.

Look on the bright side, Toyota is famous for reliability so having their fingers in making the engine should actually makes us feel much better about the M340
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Not to bounce the rubble but I too am with the 'who cares' crowd.

I think that Toyota / BMW shared the cost for developing the engine so we both benefited from the partnership.

Look on the bright side, Toyota is famous for reliability so having their fingers in making the engine should actually makes us feel much better about the M340
This was actually my thoughts as well! Makes me wanna buy it after my lease, been amazing so far.
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Been researching the '21 Supra 3.0 and it looks like it got the best B58 available and Dyno figures are 388hp and 421tq at the wheels... Which is crazy, why Toyota is allowed to pump the power more on their cars when it's already hundreds of lbs lighter and also cheaper
If you’ve seen the “new” Supra interior, you will notice that it uses a previous gen BMW infotainment system. My guess is that’s not the only parts-bin stuff that BMW gave Toyota. It probably costs next to nothing to put that in this car.
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If you’ve seen the “new” Supra interior, you will notice that it uses a previous gen BMW infotainment system. My guess is that’s not the only parts-bin stuff that BMW gave Toyota. It probably costs next to nothing to put that in this car.
Possibly but I wouldn't be buying the car for its upgraded infotainment system. A 50" height vs a 56" height yes
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