[SoFlo_Nick]

Originally Posted by premier3is

Due to all the advanced electronics in the G20, I wouldn't personally want to own it past my 3 year lease as any issues down the line will most likely cost a grip to fix. Just my opinion.

bimmers have always been money pits but the G20 will take it to the next level! just so many things can go wrong! Imagine after 5 years your digital dash goes out (prob like 4K) or the laser lights (another 4K)

[hans007]

Originally Posted by SoFlo_Nick

bimmers have always been money pits but the G20 will take it to the next level! just so many things can go wrong! Imagine after 5 years your digital dash goes out (prob like 4K) or the laser lights (another 4K)

cmon really... you can buy a new digital dash on ebay today for like $900. Its not gonna be that bad, and LCDs and LED backlights last what 10 years on TVs. Lets not be dramatic here.

[TheRetroGuy]

Originally Posted by hans007

cmon really... you can buy a new digital dash on ebay today for like $900. Its not gonna be that bad, and LCDs and LED backlights last what 10 years on TVs. Lets not be dramatic here.

Problem isn't the part, it's that dealers really stick it to you on labor for this sort of thing. On my Lexus 3IS I had a noisy heater box that needed replacement after about 1 year. The part isn't all that expensive but they had to keep it for several days, and because all of the tear down and reassembling they said "good thing this is under warranty, otherwise would have been a $3,700 repair".

I got 7 year bumper to bumper warranty on mine (including wheels and tires), partially for this reason and that 7 years is about how long I will want to keep it.

I think the G20 will be a reliable model overall, partially because the B48/B58 aren't completely new designs, they are improved versions of engines that have had the bugs worked out. But then again there's a lot of tech in the G20 so who knows. That's what warranties are for.

[saijin]

I for one will never go to the stealership here. I have my own fair priced BMW mechanic so I'm lucky.

Ok so what do you guys recommend out of this list:

1. 2019 330i
2. 2019 M340
3. 2020 330i

And which month release of each model do you recommend since someone here said that the earlier the release the less reliable since it's new still.

[mcjohnsonsg]

Originally Posted by saijin

I for one will never go to the stealership here. I have my own fair priced BMW mechanic so I'm lucky.

Ok so what do you guys recommend out of this list:

1. 2019 330i
2. 2019 M340
3. 2020 330i

And which month release of each model do you recommend since someone here said that the earlier the release the less reliable since it's new still.

That's easy...if money isn't a consideration, the M340. And I wouldn't worry too much about early productions cars. I picked up my M340 in mid to late April 2019, and nothing has gone wrong. The M235 I had before it was also early production, and also nothing went wrong.

[saijin]

Originally Posted by mcjohnsonsg

That's easy...if money isn't a consideration, the M340. And I wouldn't worry too much about early productions cars. I picked up my M340 in mid to late April 2019, and nothing has gone wrong. The M235 I had before it was also early production, and also nothing went wrong.

I just test drove a 2019 330i I like it a lot more than the 2017 320i.
I was told that the m340 difference is 100 HP and that's about it since it's a 6 cylinder instead of 4.

That being said I don't think I'll do anything with a 355HP. So for me $20k for 100HP extra won't justify it... plus it's an M packaged car which I can't stand.

[eluded]

BMW not known for long term reliability but u have a high mileage one. Some of them hold up well. Can be hit and miss. Go WOT in the m340 and it's always a hit.

[moonboy]

miles are not everything, age is as important if not more. your e90 was decaying for 13 years, especially when kept outside all the plastic rubber parts which of there is plenty in bmw are gonna turn to rubbish, electronics too.

[mcjohnsonsg]

Originally Posted by saijin

I just test drove a 2019 330i I like it a lot more than the 2017 320i.
I was told that the m340 difference is 100 HP and that's about it since it's a 6 cylinder instead of 4.

That being said I don't think I'll do anything with a 355HP. So for me $20k for 100HP extra won't justify it... plus it's an M packaged car which I can't stand.

Then it sounds like you already knew the right answer for you.

But the M340 isn't just about the additional acceleration. The 6 gives the G20 added character. Even when your not using all of the the power, you feel it through the sound and every small press of throttle. To me it's worth the money because it makes the car feel more special, even if I don't get to drive it hard all the time.

[saijin]

Originally Posted by mcjohnsonsg

Then it sounds like you already knew the right answer for you.

But the M340 isn't just about the additional acceleration. The 6 gives the G20 added character. Even when your not using all of the the power, you feel it through the sound and every small press of throttle. To me it's worth the money because it makes the car feel more special, even if I don't get to drive it hard all the time.

Gotcha, that makes a lot of sense.

So again, the electric steering is actually better than older hydraulics?
And I shouldn't worry too much about the electronic stuff breaking down?

[saijin]

Oh, btw the things that has broken down in my 07 e90 are mainly sensors and water pump and valve cover gasket.

How easy is it to replace them in the 2019 330i models?
I'd assume those would be what breaks down first in these cars?

[saijin]

Originally Posted by jstein55

Impressive mileage on the E90, especially given that it was the start of more tech under the hood and more expensive maintenance (electric water pump, no dipstick, etc.). As for long term reliability of the G20, that of course can't be known, however with cars becoming more and more rolling computers, it is expected that these cars will become very expensive to maintain to the 250k mile point of your old E90. I know in another thread a replacement laserlight headlight was $3k (without labor), so maybe an extended warranty is advised after some ownership depending on how much you trust the vehicle.

As for engines, I would stay away from the earlier 4-cylinders (N20 engine code), and go for something post 2016 with a 30i moniker, denoting the new B48 engine being used. Your best guess for long term reliability would be asking the F3X forum, as I know there are users who have 100k miles+ on their 3/4-series, but of course, beware, being that this is a forum so there may be some bias.

Hope that helped

I googled f3x forums, do you happen to have a link ?
I found a bunch random forums

[stein_325i]

Originally Posted by saijin

I googled f3x forums, do you happen to have a link ?
I found a bunch random forums

I just meant the F3X section here on bimmerpost. https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/index.php

[golf_234]

While it remains to be seen, I feel like while overall build quality is probably generally more suited to the consumer upgrade culture (thinner paint, overall robustness of the car, and so forth) it seems like so many things have just been improved over time that the car could prove to be more reliable.

It would be an interesting comparison to see E46/E90/F30/G20 reliability numbers, but for some reason I suspect that things are actually getting better in that regard. For example, although my F30 is still at around 50k, it has been pretty much totally uneventful. Whereas my earlier cars of the other chassis, E46 E90 and so forth were full of so many problems, even early on.

As others have said, it can be hit or miss.

But I would have no reservation getting a G20 and hanging onto it for a long while. I do think that later in the lifecycle LCI refresh models are almost always a better play though, that I am certain the data would show.

[saijin]

I think I've decided on a 2019 330i .

1. is there a There about a $10k difference between the 2019 and 2020 model?
2. WHere do you suggest I buy the car from? Dealership is most expensive and privately owned car sales shop for BMW seems to have a similar price to the dealership from what I've seen.

[premier3is]

Originally Posted by saijin

I think I've decided on a 2019 330i .

1. is there a There about a $10k difference between the 2019 and 2020 model?
2. WHere do you suggest I buy the car from? Dealership is most expensive and privately owned car sales shop for BMW seems to have a similar price to the dealership from what I've seen.

Hopefully you have deep pockets, remember this is a first gen model and the 2019 is the first year.

Don't say we didn't warn you. I also am not too sure on the differences from the 2019 and 2020, if anything it's probably extremely minor.

[saijin]

Originally Posted by premier3is

Hopefully you have deep pockets, remember this is a first gen model and the 2019 is the first year.

Don't say we didn't warn you. I also am not too sure on the differences from the 2019 and 2020, if anything it's probably extremely minor.

SO you think better just get the 2020 model then?

I spoke with a friend who works at BMW and all he said was bpth models are exactly the same aside from the idrive 7

[murderedg20]

Originally Posted by saijin

SO you think better just get the 2020 model then?

I spoke with a friend who works at BMW and all he said was bpth models are exactly the same aside from the idrive 7

I'm pretty sure i drive is the same in 19 and 20. My 2019 has idrive 7.

[saijin]

Where do you guys recommend to buy a newer model car like this aside from dealership?

[CrownRoyal79]

Originally Posted by premier3is

Due to all the advanced electronics in the G20, I wouldn't personally want to own it past my 3 year lease as any issues down the line will most likely cost a grip to fix. Just my opinion.

Standard warranty is 4 years or 50,000.

[Germanauto]

How the hell did you get your E90 to 250k miles? My '08 has 85k on it and I'm afraid it'll break every time I drive it. Mine has been in the family it's entire life and always serviced at the dealer.

[premier3is]

Originally Posted by CrownRoyal79

Standard warranty is 4 years or 50,000.

Most issues will happen after that anyways.