[MineralM]

2020 M340i xdrive

I just upgraded from 225 stock all around runflats to 235 all around Pilot Sports 4S non-runflats.

The car feels much better at speed (130mph), grip and handling feels about twice as good.

Small bumps in the road are eaten up better in all suspensions modes.

This is my first set of good tires on my first sports/sporty car and it's makes a huge difference. Definitely get good tires.

[IndotagSwizz]

Originally Posted by MineralM

2020 M340i xdrive

I just upgraded from 225 stock all around runflats to 235 all around Pilot Sports 4S non-runflats.

The car feels much better at speed (130mph), grip and handling feels about twice as good.

Small bumps in the road are eaten up better in all suspensions modes.

This is my first set of good tires on my first sports/sporty car and it's makes a huge difference. Definitely get good tires.

These tires are amazing, I did the same exact thing 235 all around on my stocks and didn't even hesitate to get PS4s again on my new rims even, car is extremely planted and coming in and out of turns and ramps feels sticky and confident, enjoy!! Just a heads up rotate them every oil change or your rears will be done in like 10k lol as with all sticky tires the compromise with the softness is how quick they wear

[EXE46]

Yep, you're late to the party lol, night and day difference. Curse BMW for giving us these crappy run flats all seasons and then having the audacity to cut top speed. Nobody else in the industry uses these narrow tires on a car of this caliber as if we are driving Nissan Versa's. Whomever thought this was ok should be fired.

[KaptainKloss]

Dumb question, but did you upgrade the rims from 225 to 235? Those are 19 inch right?

[EXE46]

The 19X8's can accommodate 235's safely. In fact, you can swap up to a 245 width tires on the 19X8 wheels.

[SpiveyCJ]

Nice! I live in PA and am tired of flipping summer/winter tires so I got the all seasons, didn't realize they would be H-rated touring tires. As mentioned previously, an absolute travesty BMW would use such a shitty tire on this car.
Replacing soon...

[Rasco]

Driving at 130mph? Hope this was on a track?

[KaptainKloss]

Anyone know why TireRack has 255 rear options only for standard tires for the MY2021's? Does this mean that if you opt for the non-rft option 18's from the factory then you still get the wider rear tires?

[Benjamin_Nicholas]

This is why I went with the ZTK package, as it puts these exact tires on the vehicle.

I would never ride on a run flat in a performance vehicle. Ever.

https://g20.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1602609

[Blubaron79]

Originally Posted by SpiveyCJ

Nice! I live in PA and am tired of flipping summer/winter tires so I got the all seasons, didn't realize they would be H-rated touring tires. As mentioned previously, an absolute travesty BMW would use such a shitty tire on this car.
Replacing soon...

I'm in the same state and do the same. I was lucky enough to order my car with PS4's. I just purchased an aftermarket winter set up.

The reason BMW offers the other tires is to appease the masses. Your average driver thinks an all season tire is fine. It's not.

I was on the parkway in Pittsburgh with a 330 loaner and all seasons. I was going 3mph. I'd touch the brakes, and abs would kick in and I'd slide 10 feet at a time. All seasons stink regardless.

[MineralM]

Originally Posted by Rasco

Driving at 130mph? Hope this was on a track?

Lol I paid for the whole speedometer so I'm going to use it. At least limited to 130 ☹️

[Rasco]

Originally Posted by MineralM

Lol I paid for the whole speedometer so I'm going to use it. At least limited to 130 ☹️

The limiter is at 155 not 130 and it's not big or clever on a public road (autobahn aside) especially considering you were trailing new tyre setup very unwise, stay safe, learn you car and your limitations i guarantee you will run out of talent one day and at those speeds kill someone innocent.

[-EndOfAnEra-]

Nice one OP! The staggered go-flat PS4S is my permanent summer tire choice for my last two 3-series. It is just so damn good!

[MineralM]

Originally Posted by Rasco

The limiter is at 155 not 130 and it's not big or clever on a public road (autobahn aside) especially considering you were trailing new tyre setup very unwise, stay safe, learn you car and your limitations i guarantee you will run out of talent one day and at those speeds kill someone innocent.

No worries, safety is my #1 priority.

But the speed limiter is 130 on the square run flat all season setup.

Only if you get the Zhp cooling package or summer performance tires do you get 155 limit

[Rasco]

Originally Posted by MineralM

No worries, safety is my #1 priority.

But the speed limiter is 130 on the square run flat all season setup.

Only if you get the Zhp cooling package or summer performance tires do you get 155 limit

Not in Europe, stock g20's are 155 from the factory, as cars are fitted with summer tyres as standard, the 330i will roll up to just over 155 with ease in the autobahn. the reason your car is limited to 130 is the speed rating of the winter tyres fitted as spec'd, strange as it snows here in Europe and this isn't an option you have to spec. Have to say I'm glad your car is limited to "just 130" or maybe you should have strapped a pair on when you spec'd the car.

[MineralM]

Originally Posted by Rasco

Not in Europe, stock g20's are 155 from the factory, as cars are fitted with summer tyres as standard, the 330i will roll up to just over 155 with ease in the autobahn. the reason your car is limited to 130 is the speed rating of the winter tyres fitted as spec'd, strange as it snows here in Europe and this isn't an option you have to spec. Have to say I'm glad your car is limited to "just 130" or maybe you should have strapped a pair on when you spec'd the car.

I'm the US, all season tires are limited to the 130mph.

Didn't even know that's how they determined the limiter or I would've gotten the upgrades tires.

On the m3 I'll make sure there's no limit, still 2 more years on my lease though.

[xlover]

Originally Posted by KaptainKloss

Anyone know why TireRack has 255 rear options only for standard tires for the MY2021's? Does this mean that if you opt for the non-rft option 18's from the factory then you still get the wider rear tires?

If you spec the car with summer tires you get the wider rear set (better handling)

[xlover]

Originally Posted by MineralM

I'm the US, all season tires are limited to the 130mph.

Didn't even know that's how they determined the limiter or I would've gotten the upgrades tires.

On the m3 I'll make sure there's no limit, still 2 more years on my lease though.

If you spec summer tires you would have gotten wider rears and the 155mph limiter!

The M3 doesn't offer all seasons ! No worries there

[VetteGuy]

Originally Posted by Blubaron79

I'm in the same state and do the same. I was lucky enough to order my car with PS4's. I just purchased an aftermarket winter set up.

The reason BMW offers the other tires is to appease the masses. Your average driver thinks an all season tire is fine. It's not.

I was on the parkway in Pittsburgh with a 330 loaner and all seasons. I was going 3mph. I'd touch the brakes, and abs would kick in and I'd slide 10 feet at a time. All seasons stink regardless.

I disagree with you blanket condemnation of all season tires. The correct tires depend on how the car will be driven, the driver’s abilities, and the driving environment or climate. For a daily driver in the area of the midwestern U.S. where I live, winters are cold enough that summer tires can often be unsafe, and the occasional light snow or rare heavy snow doesn’t warrant a dedicated winter set up. So... a “good” set of all season tires can be an appropriate option for a sporty daily driver.

After only 250 miles and a lot of research, in November I replaced the staggered P7 runflat summer tires on my new M440i with Continental Extreme Contact DWS06 non-runflat all season tires. A much smoother and quieter ride, and... they have very good performance grip (certainly not track worthy), have amazing traction in the rain, and stop on a dime. Hoping to not really test them in light snow, but I know I will soon enough.

[Blubaron79]

Originally Posted by VetteGuy

I disagree with you blanket condemnation of all season tires. The correct tires depend on how the car will be driven, the driver's abilities, and the driving environment or climate. For a daily driver in the area of the midwestern U.S. where I live, winters are cold enough that summer tires can often be unsafe, and the occasional light snow or rare heavy snow doesn't warrant a dedicated winter set up. So... a "good" set of all season tires can be an appropriate option for a sporty daily driver.

After only 250 miles and a lot of research, in November I replaced the staggered P7 runflat summer tires on my new M440i with Continental Extreme Contact DWS06 non-runflat all season tires. A much smoother and quieter ride, and... they have very good performance grip (certainly not track worthy), have amazing traction in the rain, and stop on a dime. Hoping to not really test them in light snow, but I know I will soon enough.

I actually used to run DWS's on my E92, and F32. I did like them.

When I got rid of my 435 I tried swapping winter tires and summer tires out. It's like night and day. You'll find a million threads here, but all seasons sacrifice a lot of traction in the winter and summer to play both sides of the fence.

Here is a pic of my F30 335 xdrive ( I got after my 435) driving through over a foot of snow to ski. I would have gotten stuck in all seasons

[VetteGuy]

I most definitely do not disagree with you that there is performance lost on both extremes. However, in St. Louis we average a dozen "light" snow events each winter, usually less than a few inches, and most of which I can sit out the first day if I need to. On the other extreme, unlike some immature folks... while I drive with gusto, I'm not about to push 130 mph on public roadways or otherwise overdrive my all season tires on dry pavement. Like I said, it's just a matter of how we drive and where.

Love the pic of your car in the snow though.

[retart13]

Originally Posted by KaptainKloss

Dumb question, but did you upgrade the rims from 225 to 235? Those are 19 inch right?

They look like 18s to me? Specifically the OEM 780s?