[MichaelNRW]

Because the other thread was deleted...

There´s currently one app available to delete xDrive on G series models.
It´s called eXtratool, is only available for Android and comes from russia.

Does it work? Yes.
Is it reliable? I don´t know.
Some users of the german G20 community already used it and it works.
The app is using a service routine to disable the VTG.
You need to use the app after every startup, as it only works until the engine stops.

[cyam]

Hmm this quick trick is not advisable. I have been looking for this as I wanted to practice drifting and doing so in AWD mode is a bit taxing on the VTG/transfer case.

I have talked to xAutomotive (who make xdelete and xhp), and I mentioned this.
They said it is not recommended to drive around with this short-term disabling because the VTG clutches are not in the position to use the car as RWD. This would be the same to pull the fuse of the VTG where it jumps into emergency RWD mode but driving or drifting in this mode can easily lead to damage.

xAutomotive having been doing a lot of work on the xdelete for the G20 and to do it properly and safely.

They have told me it will be released soon (within months).

I am waiting

PS: I know of another group in Romania doing this quick trick with an app. I believe they do it on Android and iOS. I declined purchasing it for the reasons mentioned above.

[MichaelNRW]

Yeah i know that and personally wont use it.
I´m also waiting for xAutomotive and a good solution.

There´s also another guy from russia that build a little data display that can also disable xDrive. But you can see in his videos that the car is throwing an error.

This thread is only for information because some people try to selll this information via PM...

[G30M]

Originally Posted by cyam

I have talked to xAutomotive (who make xdelete and xhp), and I mentioned this.
They said it is not recommended to drive around with this short-term disabling because the VTG clutches are not in the position to use the car as RWD. This would be the same to pull the fuse of the VTG where it jumps into emergency RWD mode but driving or drifting in this mode can easily lead to damage..

that is a really good explanation thanks. now i know why it's taking so long!

now what is VTG ...

[MichaelNRW]

Originally Posted by g21

that is a really good explanation thanks. now i know why it's taking so long!

now what is VTG ...

They posted a little teaser yesterday :-)
Looked like a G20 LCI Alpina with xDelete.

VTG = Verteilergetriebe = transfer gearbox?
It´s the gearbox that connects your front with the rear for xDrive.

[G30M]

Originally Posted by MichaelNRW

They posted a little teaser yesterday :-)
Looked like a G20 LCI Alpina with xDelete.

VTG = Verteilergetriebe = transfer gearbox?
It´s the gearbox that connects your front with the rear for xDrive.

Danke

[AshtonPJT]

Originally Posted by cyam

Hmm this quick trick is not advisable. I have been looking for this as I wanted to practice drifting and doing so in AWD mode is a bit taxing on the VTG/transfer case.

I have talked to xAutomotive (who make xdelete and xhp), and I mentioned this.
They said it is not recommended to drive around with this short-term disabling because the VTG clutches are not in the position to use the car as RWD. This would be the same to pull the fuse of the VTG where it jumps into emergency RWD mode but driving or drifting in this mode can easily lead to damage.

xAutomotive having been doing a lot of work on the xdelete for the G20 and to do it properly and safely.

They have told me it will be released soon (within months).

I am waiting

PS: I know of another group in Romania doing this quick trick with an app. I believe they do it on Android and iOS. I declined purchasing it for the reasons mentioned above.

What is the iOS app called?

[cyam]

Originally Posted by AshtonPJT

What is the iOS app called?

I never asked. He PM'd me talking about it, but never got that far as I wasn't interested, again for the reasons mentioned above.

[Elderado82]

Why do this? Doesn’t pressing and holding the TC button turn off stability control and traction control, while directing almost all power to the rear wheels? I ask because I do this and manage to hoon around quite effectively, achieving full, smooth drifts without the snapback associated with all-wheel drive. Just wondering what the benefit is, especially considering the potential for damaging your clutches and differential.

[MichaelNRW]

Originally Posted by Elderado82

Why do this? Doesn’t pressing and holding the TC button turn off stability control and traction control, while directing almost all power to the rear wheels? I ask because I do this and manage to hoon around quite effectively, achieving full, smooth drifts without the snapback associated with all-wheel drive. Just wondering what the benefit is, especially considering the potential for damaging your clutches and differential.

There´s still some power going to the front wheels.
Not much but you can feel the difference to a RWD car.

[AshtonPJT]

Originally Posted by Elderado82

Why do this? Doesn’t pressing and holding the TC button turn off stability control and traction control, while directing almost all power to the rear wheels? I ask because I do this and manage to hoon around quite effectively, achieving full, smooth drifts without the snapback associated with all-wheel drive. Just wondering what the benefit is, especially considering the potential for damaging your clutches and differential.

Burnouts🙌🏻

[murcyphs]

So who got the balls to take one for the team?

[cyam]

Originally Posted by murcyphs

So who got the balls to take one for the team?

I'll be doing xdelete as soon as xAutomotive have it released, no way will I try the little s/w switch-off trick.

[mondayze]

just buy a RWD car lol

[cyam]

Originally Posted by mondayze

just buy a RWD car lol

Seriously what is wrong with people like you. We WANT AWD. PERIOD.

We Do nor want RWD.

HOWEVER, there are instances where switching to RWD only has a benefit. Like going to a skidpan to practice drifting.

We want the option that's all, not to be restricted to RWD only and always

[cyam]

True to their word, it seems xAutomotive have now released xdelete for G20.

Anyone tried it yet?

[G30M]

well have i got some review for you

this thing is no joke! the M340i is now sideways everywhere i go with DTC and AWD Sport. RWD pretty much

also most likely placebo or maybe the throttle response is reset but the throttle response is much better (comfort mode!)

AWD Sport is not the same as the M3 AWD Sport. The front wheels do not get power when needed. When i try to launch the car, instead of moving forwards the car is completely stationary spinning the the rear wheels. I would not want to be driving this thing in DTC AWD Sport as I have a feeling you'd skid into a tree.

So I flashed back to "Stock" which is designated as "4WD" on the app. My goodness in sport plus when I was trying to launch, the car was spinning all 4 wheels and going nowhere.

I do not recall having this behaviour prior. Luckily you can still trust sport and comfort modes. But I will warn you do not use sport plus in slippery conditions once you flash back to "stock" because it is not "stock" anymore.

So the best mode seems to be "stock" and DTC. the car is wild as heck already. do not use 4WD Sport on public roads is my warning to y'all (unless on a race track or definitely abandoned road and you've signed your life away)

use 2WD when drifting.

[cyam]

Originally Posted by G30M

well have i got some review for you

this thing is no joke! the M340i is now sideways everywhere i go with DTC and AWD Sport. RWD pretty much

also most likely placebo but the throttle response is better (comfort mode!)

so i did a test on this before selling the car (as i had already activated the code)

AWD Sport is not the same as the M3 AWD Sport. The front wheels do not get power when needed. When i try to launch the car, instead of moving forwards the car is completely stationary spinning the the rear wheels. I would not want to be driving this thing in DTC AWD Sport as I have a feeling you'd skid into a tree.

So I flashed back to "Stock" which is designated as "4WD" on the app. My goodness in sport plus when I was trying to launch, the car was spinning all 4 wheels and going nowhere.

I do not recall having this behaviour prior. Luckily you can still trust sport and comfort modes. But I will warn you do not use sport plus in slippery conditions once you flash back to "stock" because it is not "stock" anymore.

So the best mode seems to be "stock" and DTC. the car is wild as heck already. do not use 4WD Sport on public roads is my warning to y'all (unless on a race track or definitely abandoned road and you've signed your life away)

use 2WD when drifting.

"So I flashed back to "Stock" which is designated as "4WD" on the app. My goodness in sport plus when I was trying to launch, the car was spinning all 4 wheels and going nowhere."

So if all 4 wheels were spinning, then that'd be proper AWD mode and likely stock behavior. "Going nowhere" with all 4 wheels spinning - makes no sense.

[G30M]

Originally Posted by cyam

So if all 4 wheels were spinning, then that'd be proper AWD mode and likely stock behavior. "Going nowhere" with all 4 wheels spinning - makes no sense.

literally was stationary, never had that before. this was with TC fully on. worse with DTC, both sport plus. i feel like something's changed.

maybe P Zero RFTs and few drops of water on the tarmac is that bad, but the i'm saying the TC behaviour is weird.

however the new sport plus in "Stock" flash is the bomb. sidewayyyys

[spicyB48]

Why would you want to delete X Drive?

[cyam]

Originally Posted by spicyB48

Why would you want to delete X Drive?

I'm sorry, but are you dumb? Did you not read any of this post at all?

Its not to delete xdrive, is to customize it. To be able to select pure RWD only when that is desired or control how much the front axle is used in general driving.

It's software for those of us that want complete control over the xdrive system.

[G30M]

Originally Posted by spicyB48

Why would you want to delete X Drive?

drifting, powerslide, sideways, spin wheels, burnout, all those fun things