[amrh]

Only thing I dislike about the car I'm dealing on, are the wheels! I'm not a fan of the 791M wheels. I much prefer the 792M wheels. I need to figure out how to get a set.

[tturedraider]

Originally Posted by amrh

Only thing I dislike about the car I'm dealing on, are the wheels! I'm not a fan of the 791M wheels. I much prefer the 792M wheels. I need to figure out how to get a set.

Is there a car on the lot with the 792Ms? They should be willing to swap them if you press the issue a little. All they have to do is put a little addendum to the window sticker on the car they swap off of.

[amrh]

Originally Posted by tturedraider

Is there a car on the lot with the 792Ms? They should be willing to swap them if you press the issue a little. All they have to do is put a little addendum to the window sticker on the car they swap off of.

Unfortunately, there isn't. They have two M340is, and they are the same, except xdrive

I may pass on it, because of the wheels.

[chazbarrington]

Originally Posted by amrh

Only thing I dislike about the car I'm dealing on, are the wheels! I'm not a fan of the 791M wheels. I much prefer the 792M wheels. I need to figure out how to get a set.

I special ordered then waited and waited for a ship to cruise down through the Panama canal around to California primarily because I had to have staggered 792Ms

[The Nerd]

Originally Posted by amrh

I've decided on getting the M340i. It is the one I truly want, and I can't veer away from BMW!

I posed the question to see if others had compared the two, and their thoughts. Of course I expected a few biased responses, and maybe, in a way, I wanted to see the negatives of the S4 to make my decision easier.

I've only been dealing with two dealerships - BMW and Audi. Unfortunately, in my city, we don't have the luxury of having multiple dealerships for one brand. I'm surprised that my BMW dealership took off about 10%, from MSRP, plus incentives. They are hurting for sales this month!

Slightly off topic....but, how does the power of the m340i compare to your f80 power? I'm actually in a position to either pull the trigger on an m340i or wait it out for the new M3 in another year or so. In as much detail as possible, how does the m340i pull compared to your f80?

[amrh]

Originally Posted by chazbarrington

I special ordered then waited and waited for a ship to cruise down through the Panama canal around to California primarily because I had to have staggered 792Ms

That's patience and dedication! I saw a set on sale, here, for $3,500. They're take-offs...practically new. Although, I'm not sure if I want 19s or 20s, for summer. I did end up getting the m340i with the all-season, square 791m wheels. I can use them as a winter set.

[amrh]

Originally Posted by The Nerd

Slightly off topic....but, how does the power of the m340i compare to your f80 power? I'm actually in a position to either pull the trigger on an m340i or wait it out for the new M3 in another year or so. In as much detail as possible, how does the m340i pull compared to your f80?

While the m340i is fast, it's not as fast as the M3, of course. As well, it's a different power delivery. The m340i is very smooth in power delivery - you barely feel it - I was at 100 mph and engine was turning at 2,250 rpms! However, the M3 is very raw in its power delivery. When driving the M3, you feel that you ALWAYS want to go fast - the car encourages you to continuously go faster. The m340i can be a cruiser or it can speed down the road. Although, I haven't really opened up the m340i, as it only has 250 miles on it. Before my M3, I had a F10 550i. I feel that the m340i is similar in power delivery and comfort to the 550i, yet doesn't feel as big and heavy.

The cars are quite different. The M3 wasn't my daily driver - it would have been difficult for me to drive it everyday. Bumps in the road are felt through your body! Everytime I approached a bump or pothole, I would tense up waiting to feel it. The m340i is a lot more forgiving going over bumps. Of course, you sacrifice handling, compared to the M3. But, as a daily driver, definitely the m340i. As a fun, intoxicating power, great handler, a bit obnoxious weekend car...then the M3.

I feel that the connection one would get with these cars is lost, unfortunately. While the F80 was fun and fast, there just wasn't a connection, like BMWs of past. As well, less of a connection with the G20; you just feel isolated from everything. The sounds coming from the exhaust sound fake. It's just not the same experience. Which is likely why I was considering the Audi. I have an e46 330ci (my daily driver) - it's slow, technology isn't the same, but there's a connection.

Don't get me wrong, I like the G20 for what it is - fast, decent handling, comfort, very nice interior, tech is fantastic. But, I don't like it for what BMW has lost - that connected feeling to the car. Unfortunately, I think that's lost forever, as technology overtakes these cars.

[The Nerd]

Originally Posted by amrh

While the m340i is fast, it's not as fast as the M3, of course. As well, it's a different power delivery. The m340i is very smooth in power delivery - you barely feel it - I was at 100 mph and engine was turning at 2,250 rpms! However, the M3 is very raw in its power delivery. When driving the M3, you feel that you ALWAYS want to go fast - the car encourages you to continuously go faster. The m340i can be a cruiser or it can speed down the road. Although, I haven't really opened up the m340i, as it only has 250 miles on it. Before my M3, I had a F10 550i. I feel that the m340i is similar in power delivery and comfort to the 550i, yet doesn't feel as big and heavy.

The cars are quite different. The M3 wasn't my daily driver - it would have been difficult for me to drive it everyday. Bumps in the road are felt through your body! Everytime I approached a bump or pothole, I would tense up waiting to feel it. The m340i is a lot more forgiving going over bumps. Of course, you sacrifice handling, compared to the M3. But, as a daily driver, definitely the m340i. As a fun, intoxicating power, great handler, a bit obnoxious weekend car...then the M3.

I feel that the connection one would get with these cars is lost, unfortunately. While the F80 was fun and fast, there just wasn't a connection, like BMWs of past. As well, less of a connection with the G20; you just feel isolated from everything. The sounds coming from the exhaust sound fake. It's just not the same experience. Which is likely why I was considering the Audi. I have an e46 330ci (my daily driver) - it's slow, technology isn't the same, but there's a connection.

Don't get me wrong, I like the G20 for what it is - fast, decent handling, comfort, very nice interior, tech is fantastic. But, I don't like it for what BMW has lost - that connected feeling to the car. Unfortunately, I think that's lost forever, as technology overtakes these cars.

Thanks for the info! Yeah, I know the f80 is faster, I just didn't know how much faster and if the power delivery felt different.

[paulbazoV2]

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[The Automotive Enthusiast]

So, from someone who actually currently DRIVES a B9 S5, I can tell you the S5 is a fantastic car. The suspension is soft, even in Dynamic mode. The best daily driver among the M340i and C43. Check out my threads over at AudiWorld. You can get fantastic deals on S4/S5 right now. 10-12% off.

I can go into detail about the S5 if you want. Let me know.

https://www.audiworld.com/forums/aud...ripes-2978646/

https://www.audiworld.com/forums/aud...eview-2972022/

[Fuller]

Originally Posted by Mo@BMWofFairfax

So, from someone who actually currently DRIVES a B9 S5, I can tell you the S5 is a fantastic car. The suspension is soft, even in Dynamic mode. The best daily driver among the M340i and C43. Check out my threads over at AudiWorld. You can get fantastic deals on S4/S5 right now. 10-12% off.

I can go into detail about the S5 if you want. Let me know.

https://www.audiworld.com/forums/aud...ripes-2978646/

https://www.audiworld.com/forums/aud...eview-2972022/

You might need to change your handle to something like Mo@AudiOfSomewhere.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by amrh

While the m340i is fast, it's not as fast as the M3, of course. As well, it's a different power delivery. The m340i is very smooth in power delivery - you barely feel it - I was at 100 mph and engine was turning at 2,250 rpms! However, the M3 is very raw in its power delivery. When driving the M3, you feel that you ALWAYS want to go fast - the car encourages you to continuously go faster. The m340i can be a cruiser or it can speed down the road. Although, I haven't really opened up the m340i, as it only has 250 miles on it. Before my M3, I had a F10 550i. I feel that the m340i is similar in power delivery and comfort to the 550i, yet doesn't feel as big and heavy.

The cars are quite different. The M3 wasn't my daily driver - it would have been difficult for me to drive it everyday. Bumps in the road are felt through your body! Everytime I approached a bump or pothole, I would tense up waiting to feel it. The m340i is a lot more forgiving going over bumps. Of course, you sacrifice handling, compared to the M3. But, as a daily driver, definitely the m340i. As a fun, intoxicating power, great handler, a bit obnoxious weekend car...then the M3.

I feel that the connection one would get with these cars is lost, unfortunately. While the F80 was fun and fast, there just wasn't a connection, like BMWs of past. As well, less of a connection with the G20; you just feel isolated from everything. The sounds coming from the exhaust sound fake. It's just not the same experience. Which is likely why I was considering the Audi. I have an e46 330ci (my daily driver) - it's slow, technology isn't the same, but there's a connection.

Don't get me wrong, I like the G20 for what it is - fast, decent handling, comfort, very nice interior, tech is fantastic. But, I don't like it for what BMW has lost - that connected feeling to the car. Unfortunately, I think that's lost forever, as technology overtakes these cars.

Well articulated perspective.

[EXE46]

The M340i was never meant as a replacement for the F80. It slots in between a 330i and the M3/M4. The M340i is super quick and almost feels electric in comfort mode in how effortless the acceleration is. In sport plus it's a proper drivers car and begs to be pushed. Now those attributes can be more appealing to some versus a car like the M3/M4 that always feels hardcore.

The M340i is the perfect street car. M3/M4 needs a track to fully utilize its capabilities. I love a sleeper and this car fits that metric superbly. Driving incognito on the streets is an advantage you don't have daily driving an M car. So the same attributes the M guys decry the M340i for are what gives it an advantage.

[stein_325i]

Originally Posted by EXE46

The M340i was never meant as a replacement for the F80. It slots in between a 330i and the M3/M4. The M340i is super quick and almost feels electric in comfort mode in how effortless the acceleration is. In sport plus it's a proper drivers car and begs to be pushed. Now those attributes can be more appealing to some versus a car like the M3/M4 that always feels hardcore.

The M340i is the perfect street car. M3/M4 needs a track to fully utilize its capabilities. I love a sleeper and this car fits that metric superbly. Driving incognito on the streets is an advantage you don't have daily driving an M car. So the same attributes the M guys decry the M340i for are what gives it an advantage.

I mean, its really just the car enthusiasts who actually notice an M car. Most of the general public can't tell the difference between an M3 to a 320i so the incognito thing could really be different based on where you live. I remember when I was in LA M3's were essentially everywhere, so much so that they didn't even stand out. Of course that may be different in other areas, but most of the time, no one other than enthusiasts notice.

[The Automotive Enthusiast]

Originally Posted by Fuller

You might need to change your handle to something like Mo@AudiOfSomewhere.

I don't work for Audi.

[EXE46]

Originally Posted by joshuastein55

I mean, its really just the car enthusiasts who actually notice an M car. Most of the general public can't tell the difference between an M3 to a 320i so the incognito thing could really be different based on where you live. I remember when I was in LA M3's were essentially everywhere, so much so that they didn't even stand out. Of course that may be different in other areas, but most of the time, no one other than enthusiasts notice.

The sound and the looks of the M3 can attract unwanted attention. My boring looking 4 door M340i blends in with all the other boring cars out there. Most people don't know it's capabilities. M3 is legendary. It's easier to recognize and can elicit unwanted attention when one is trying to avoid attention on the streets. Every kid in their crap box maybe more inclined to race you when in an M4 etc. I do my best to not attract attention when driving on the streets and the boring looking M340i is great for that wolf in sheep's clothing character.

[alex2364]

Originally Posted by EXE46

The sound and the looks of the M3 can attract unwanted attention. My boring looking 4 door M340i blends in with all the other boring cars out there. Most people don't know it's capabilities. M3 is legendary. It's easier to recognize and can elicit unwanted attention when one is trying to avoid attention on the streets. Every kid in their crap box maybe more inclined to race you when in an M4 etc. I do my best to not attract attention when driving on the streets and the boring looking M340i is great for that wolf in sheep's clothing character.

Most people don't know the difference between a 330i and M3. I've never had anyone try to race me in my M4.

[x986]

When the lease for my '16 340 was coming up, I tested the Audi 2020 S5; I wanted to like it, but when I got back in my 340, I said to myself, "Self, this is a better car."

And there is another thing no one has mentioned: Yes, the BMW forums sometimes have threads about, "What color do you like?" But in general, the genuine "car-guy" expertise that is available on BMW boards eclipses anything on Audi forums.

[siegester]

Originally Posted by Mo@BMWofFairfax

So, from someone who actually currently DRIVES a B9 S5, I can tell you the S5 is a fantastic car. The suspension is soft, even in Dynamic mode. The best daily driver among the M340i and C43. Check out my threads over at AudiWorld. You can get fantastic deals on S4/S5 right now. 10-12% off.

I can go into detail about the S5 if you want. Let me know.

https://www.audiworld.com/forums/aud...ripes-2978646/

https://www.audiworld.com/forums/aud...eview-2972022/

I test drive the S5 a few times, and it was not the best daily for me. The car is noticeably slower, has outdated tech (2019 model), felt less nimble and understeered, and I just didn't like the interior design myself.

I preferred the exterior design and digital guages, but that was about it. The dealers around me couldn't match new M340i prices on the S5, even for used inventory (2018 model used for 1.5years)

[EXE46]

It depends on your locale I guess. Where I drive people can recognize those cars. Same for mustangs, Camaros , Corvette etc so it just depends where you live. An M3 with quad exhaust, muscular stance, wide fenders etc is distinctive.

Enthusiast recognizes it unless where you live there are no other car guys or you're in a small town etc. Two young lads ran over to check my car out a few weeks ago just by hearing the exhaust in sport plus while driving in the community. They knew just by the crackles that this was not your average 4 cylinder bmw.

[stein_325i]

Originally Posted by alex2364

Most people don't know the difference between a 330i and M3. I've never had anyone try to race me in my M4.

Same, haven't ever once been in the "want to race?" scenario on the street with my current M2, Boxster, or any other time I've driven an M or AMG car. Although, while he argues an M340i won't elicit attention like an M3, apparently it has. There's a thread on here about how an M340i has been asked numerous times to race other drivers. Trust me, the M340i may not be an M car, but it still has a "noticeable" exhaust and styling is still more "stand-out-ish" than some of BMW's current fleet.

[tturedraider]

Originally Posted by Fuller

You might need to change your handle to something like Mo@AudiOfSomewhere.

Originally Posted by Mo@BMWofFairfax

I don't work for Audi.

Mo, you don’t work for BMW anymore either, do you?