[RPM1123]

Originally Posted by Daaan

Others mentioned this as well, I think you guys forget that this is a regular 4 series.

But there have been plenty news that the Ms (M3 / M4) will get a unique front...so the 4 series seen in this pic won't have the same front like the M version....it's the same as for the current 3 series

Ah, okay thanks. It still makes me wonder where the radar will be placed in the M3/M4. Doesn't look like there's any room to center it at the bottom of the grill.

[petrolhead.]

You know what these new BMW grilles remind me of?

A rabbit's face!

[Dr.Deep]

Originally Posted by RPM1123

Ah, okay thanks. It still makes me wonder where the radar will be placed in the M3/M4. Doesn't look like there's any room to center it at the bottom of the grill.

Yeah wondering as well. Coul be in the lower right part of the grill, on the first page on the camo car you see some (more) covered up part :

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by Daaan

Others mentioned this as well, I think you guys forget that this is a regular 4 series.

But there have been plenty news that the Ms (M3 / M4) will get a unique front...so the 4 series seen in this pic won't have the same front like the M version...

The 4 Series and M3/M4 *will* have shared styling attributes in the front fascia. Specifically, they will share a grill and headlights just as they do today.

Sure, the M3/M4 will obviously have a unique design with more aggressively styled intakes and wide fenders similar to the F generation models. But the new grill design that is currently generating all the controversy should be the same on the 4 Series, M3, and M4.

it's the same as for the current 3 series

It turns out that the 3 Series is actually irrelevant when we talk about the front end of the M3/M4. Neither the E90 M3 nor the F80 M3 share a single front end part with the 3 Series from the same generation, and we should expect the same thing to be true for the G20 and G80.

[Suds]

I would actually put the front license plate on this car!!

[bm3rmy]

Its not gonna look like that.
The render is just to have lots of comments.

[BwoodBMW]

Originally Posted by bm3rmy

Its not gonna look like that.
The render is just to have lots of comments.

and hopefully to lower expectations on styling. I can't believe i'm considering a corvette but the C8 looks like a blast and if styling looks anything like the renders for the new M3/4 its probably time to take a break from BMW.... or maybe just buy an M5 (assuming LCI doesn't add some big stupid grille on that too).

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Daaan

Others mentioned this as well, I think you guys forget that this is a regular 4 series.

But there have been plenty news that the Ms (M3 / M4) will get a unique front...so the 4 series seen in this pic won't have the same front like the M version....it's the same as for the current 3 series

The new 4 AND the new ///M WILL share the same front end design.

[starbai]

god lets hope not.

[Dr.Deep]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

The new 4 AND the new ///M WILL share the same front end design.

Ahh okey, but if it's like that, then I don't get why the new 4 camo car don't share the same front as the new M3 camo car :

Even if the 4 is a early prototype, where is the front radar on the M3?

[Dr.Deep]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

The 4 Series and M3/M4 *will* have shared styling attributes in the front fascia. Specifically, they will share a grill and headlights just as they do today.

Sure, the M3/M4 will obviously have a unique design with more aggressively styled intakes and wide fenders similar to the F generation models. But the new grill design that is currently generating all the controversy should be the same on the 4 Series, M3, and M4.

It turns out that the 3 Series is actually irrelevant when we talk about the front end of the M3/M4. Neither the E90 M3 nor the F80 M3 share a single front end part with the 3 Series from the same generation, and we should expect the same thing to be true for the G20 and G80.

Thanks for your input...so then I'm even more confused..I was thinking everybody is saying that the M cars will get a unique grill...

Also the front on the new 4 prototype looks quite different than the M3 prototype..

[SCOTT26]

The purpose of the larger Kidney grilles is to form an iconic presence from a design stand point. But also to incorporate the technology such as sensors and radar for automated driver assistance.

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by Daaan

Also the front on the new 4 prototype looks quite different than the M3 prototype..

They do look different, true. At this point since these are still early prototypes, it is difficult to say how this will come together. Currently the expectation is that the same tall grill will be shared between all models of the 4 Series, M4 and M3. Hopefully as more test vehicles appear with less camo, the design will become apparent. Also, a concept is still very possible in September.

[enigma01]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

The purpose of the larger Kidney grilles is to form an iconic presence from a design stand point. But also to incorporate the technology such as sensors and radar for automated driver assistance.

No offense, but it sounds like a marketing cop-out.

Previous BMWs managed to have iconic presence without resorting to out-of-proportion grilles, and if Tesla, arguably the most advanced in self-driving technology, can manage to find places for all their sensors/radars/cameras even without a grille, so can BMW with a smaller one.

Are you saying that the 3er, with a smaller grille, will have less technology offerings than the 4er with a much larger one?

[bmrm396]

Originally Posted by enigma01

No offense, but it sounds like a marketing cop-out.

Previous BMWs managed to have iconic presence without resorting to out-of-proportion grilles, and if Tesla, arguably the most advanced in self-driving technology, can manage to find places for all their sensors/radars/cameras even without a grille, so can BMW with a smaller one.

Are you saying that the 3er, with a smaller grille, will have less technology offerings than the 4er with a much larger one?

Touché salesman, couldn't have said it better myself ... love Scott but that's just a load of nonsense

If technology is so cumbersome it has a direct effect on the design of the car itself then u better find new tech. Tail shouldn't wag the dog here, wha a disgrace if that's what controls how a car looks now

[truep287]

I can't unsee that grill.

[Kelvin1000]

Maybe this new direction in the design language has something to do with other markets such as China where this type of styling is more desirable to the consumer.

Just a thought...

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Daaan

Ahh okey, but if it's like that, then I don't get why the new 4 camo car don't share the same front as the new M3 camo car :

Even if the 4 is a early prototype, where is the front radar on the M3?

They both have the large grills, so where's the confusion?

[///M4ster Yoda]

Originally Posted by Kelvin1000

Maybe this new direction in the design language has something to do with other markets such as China where this type of styling is more desirable to the consumer.

Just a thought...

Don't make excuses for this monstrosity

[Dr.Deep]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

They both have the large grills, so where's the confusion?

The confusion comes from here:

[IMG]https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/Vo...spy-photos.jpg[/IMG]

This is definitively not the same grill behind the camo on the 4 series as wee see on the M3 prototype, the 4 has no grill to the bottom here, there you see the radar in the lower bumper.

[CRWS Engineering]

In the latest video the grille looks different
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[clee1982]

That looks like almost normal