[Burrcold]

Originally Posted by drF80

I agree with you that I'd like less badges in general.
However, the M-specific steering wheel is produced for M specific car, therefore, they put the M badge on it.
Same thing is on the stick shifter that is specific to an M
and the Wheels that are specific to an M
and those side slats (not badges) that are M specific
And those grilles...
It all makes sense on an M vehicle.
Makes no sense on a non-M vehicle.

BTW, I have not seen an RS badge (equivalent of an M) on a non-RS cars from Audi.

Yes, AMG has lost themselves with their badges...

Anyways I don't think we are going to see eye to eye on this. I don't see "M" as being special enough to have a million badges regardless of whether the shifter or steering wheel is specific to those models. Like I said before, you know what you're driving already.

[Flamingi]

Just FYI the M fender badges are part of the M sports package. You can order a 318i with M package and it will come with those fender badges from factory, except in the US of course.

So with regards to the original thread where this was taken out of context, it is not the case of sticking an M badge on a non M car.

[themnmd]

Take them off or don't , but don't insist that everyone else do the same as you.

[Cabby]

Originally Posted by EXE46

I was responding to burrcold's recent post about their existence on M cars. Prior, I made a single point against it on Non M cars. Also, I was not the OP for this thread though it's reading as such. It's not like I am continuously harping about it and even if that were the case there's no need to quote me. Just move on, live and let die...

Oh I moved on 1 second after reading your response shitting on someone else for having an opinion that differs from yours.

[hans007]

Originally Posted by drF80

You can “consider” whatever you wish however, both of Xs are indeed M vehicles as they are made by that division and using those parts that are not used in Mxxx vehicles.
It becomes very obvious once you extensively drive both, M3 and M340 for example...

However, that is NOT the point of this discussion. The point was adding EXTRA ///M badges on a non-M vehicle (that already has too many "Ms" on it...

I mean BMW says the m performance cars are M cars now so throw the badges on. who cares. The M850 gets to be in M-town , its just marketing anyway. What is an M car anyway at this point, most of the allegedly M specific stuff is still based on the normal car parts now.

The b58/s58 and the v8 in the m550 vs m5 aren't that different anymore. The transmissions are the same zf8. None of them are all that special and BMW puts those badges on from the factory even on m-sport cars outside of the US

[DFW_M]

Originally Posted by hans007

I mean BMW says the m performance cars are M cars now so throw the badges on. who cares. The M850 gets to be in M-town , its just marketing anyway. What is an M car anyway at this point, most of the allegedly M specific stuff is still based on the normal car parts now.

The b58/s58 and the v8 in the m550 vs m5 aren't that different anymore. The transmissions are the same zf8. None of them are all that special and BMW puts those badges on from the factory even on m-sport cars outside of the US

You have no idea what are you talking about or you have never driven an M car...
It is a completely different car from the standard version, different feel, handling, and so on. It is not about Speed, or looks or sound but all other details. The 6MT in my M3 is a completely different transmission from my previous 335i. The B58 and S58 are completely different machines. Just like N55 and S55 were. Even the brakes feel different even though I had M brakes on both of my last two vehicles. I would be surprised if they use the same identical ZF8 in both cars. A completely different car.
After owning an F80, I just placed the order on a M340i. I drove it over the weekend to get the feel for all little details. And yes, the two have very little in common, totally different experiences.
I loved the F80 and have not used it the way it is begging to be used. So, step in a different direction (not a step down)...

[MD707]

Originally Posted by drF80

You have no idea what are you talking about or you have never driven an M car... It is a completely different car from the standard version, different feel, handling, and so on. It is not about Speed, or looks or sound but all other details.

Did you know every true M car is hand made by virgins, and only during a full moon?

An M3 is a 3 series with extensive upgrades, at the expense of some comfort and usability. It is not a McLaren F1. And yes, I've had several. In fact, over the years they have pushed M models further towards the harder end - I guess customer feedback is 'BECAUSE RACECAR'.

Besides, the M badge is on 116is and up everywhere else in the world and denotes a bodykit - so you probably just need to get past it...

[LOW4LYF]

Originally Posted by hans007

I mean BMW says the m performance cars are M cars now so throw the badges on. who cares. The M850 gets to be in M-town , its just marketing anyway. What is an M car anyway at this point, most of the allegedly M specific stuff is still based on the normal car parts now.

The b58/s58 and the v8 in the m550 vs m5 aren't that different anymore. The transmissions are the same zf8. None of them are all that special and BMW puts those badges on from the factory even on m-sport cars outside of the US

So true... But let the M driver feel special please

[mbanck]

Originally Posted by hans007

I mean BMW says the m performance cars are M cars now so throw the badges on.

Again, those fender badges are not about M Performance, they are about the M Sport package.

If you order the Sport or Luxury Package, you get a "Sport" or "Luxury" text logo as fender badge.

You can option to debadge them.

[DenHaag3er]

Why are the biggest M car zealots from america where they drive on straight roads for 90% of the time?

[DFW_M]

Originally Posted by G21-M340i

An M3 is a 3 series with extensive upgrades, at the expense of some comfort and usability. It is not a McLaren F1. And yes, I've had several. In fact, over the years they have pushed M models further towards the harder end - I guess customer feedback is 'BECAUSE RACECAR'.

Besides, the M badge is on 116is and up everywhere else in the world and denotes a bodykit - so you probably just need to get past it...

Again, you are clueless. The M3 and 3 series are further apart than similar or "just upgrades". The platform is different, hence F30/G20 vs F80/G80. One of the things that totally surprised me after owning E46, 2x e90s and 1 F30 is how different F80 was. Aside from the interior similarities, the cars are completely different.
Why don't you try to invest $20k into "upgrades" of a 340 and see if you are going to get an M. Definitely not...

But again, you are totally missing the point of the thread -- badges.

My point is that the less, the better (including on M cars). The other poster likes to add more "///M" badges to the car because it has M-Performance pieces...
And that is it. Personal preference on both sides.
I don't see the reason a "Civic" would not add an "///M" if they for example put a few M-performance pieces on the car? Maybe a stick shifter and brake pads -- it has the M-performance pieces so go wild with the badges?

[MD707]

Wow. You really are a total waste of time. I guess you’re on a mission to belittle anyone who fundamentally disagrees with your ridiculous argument. Yeah I’m done. Enjoy flogging a horse that died ten years ago. 👍😀🤘

[jmack]

I love how F80 owners talk about rawness pretending like they are driving a Lotus and not a luxury car with track suspension.

[cnichols138]

You mentioned Fender badges and Seatbelts. So other than USA you all got some different seatbelts?