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Similar to Alfa, the problem with Genesis is dealer experience. In Canada, they have everything figured out. They bring the car to you to test drive, they have a whole delivery experience where they bring it on a truck with a nice big bow when you buy it, and for service, they bring you a loaner, and take your car to the service center. Sadly, the US doesn't have this. Despite this, I am still curious about how it handles, so I'll definitely need to drive one.
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One thing I'll point out, that many might already realize, is the longer the Giulia sits on dealer lots, the more attractive the offers and discounts are becoming. I saw a new 2018 quadrifoglio dropped all the way to mid 50s. I didn't dig deeper to see what the details were, but if there are left over '18 quads being offered for the cost of a well optioned 330i, that's hard to resist.
In some regions of the US, like the NE, the dealer situation isn't bad either. I have the feeling though, if I walk into an Alfa dealership looking for a quadrifoglio, it would be difficult to leave without buying it. Compound that with the fact that, on some level, I'd want to be talked into buying it, and id be a relatively easy mark for a skilled sales person. Car sales staff are often very perceptive, and despite what you think is a good poker face, they tend to sense your mind set if you're an enthusiast type. Then again, who else would be interested in buying a rwd Italian sports sedan in the northeastern US. You're either not playing with a full deck, or you're the type who comes to life when in control of 500+ hp. Anyway, got to be sensible, no impulsive car purchases... My F36 might not be a youngster anymore, but she's perfectly fine...I think. |
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The 340 bores me. It's not bad in the way the F30 was, it's certainly competent and would be "fun" to the average person. However, it's just not close at all to recapturing the magic of the E90 and prior models. That's just too much money for me to spend on a car that leaves me feeling cold. No bueno BMW.
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Thank you for the detailed and unbiased view. Awesome
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Thanks for the update on the g70. Your assessment on the transmission is what makes me lukewarm on the g70. Despite the powerful engine, competent handling, quality interior, and relative bargain price for the segment, the transmission would ruin the experience for me. Why bother with a performance oriented car if the only choice is an auto transmission that's somewhat unpredictable and doesn't allow for full manual mode.
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Thanks for the update, especially as regards the differences between RWD and X drive! Driving a RWD E90 in the snowbelt, I suspected that the RWD M340i might have a touch more character. It's tricky because being where I am, I have no ability to compare rear to XDrive and my instinct as a driver for RWD wars with my practical self for XDrive
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Great thread! Maybe I missed it, but the 2020 Mercedes CLA45 looks pretty good, too. Shame the 416hp engine will not be released in the U.S.
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Those as-tested prices of the M and AMG lite models are ridiculous.
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That's what happens when all the boxes are ticked, but yes, everything today has become very expensive. I'm sure if Porsche made a competitor, it'd be well past $100k w/ all options
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Add performance suspension to your m340i and it will change the car completely.
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Go drive the Alfa QV. You won't be disappointed. You can also pick one up (18 model)for $20k discount.
I've driven 11k miles on mine so far and it has been very reliable.
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thats a very informative post.
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Plan on trying to do so this weekend, just have to get off work early enough. After driving the Ti Sport, I can't wait to see how the twin turbo V6 makes the car even better!
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Is this on the builder? Or part of the M performance parts? Car I tested had the Adaptive M Suspension ($700)
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wow. that M340 price..
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Alfa is lighter, but steering and the weight are the only things going for it.
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