[lloydster82]

Originally Posted by paulf

Thanks for this Lloydster - I've requested for my vehicle too... see if they respond.

No problem. It lists my VIN number and colour etc on the form but left that off, so they are specific to each vehicle.

[tricky6]

Originally Posted by lloydster82

Finally received the attached for my vehicle from BMW dealer which suggests for my car spec, that the range is just under the 40miles/8% bracket so BIK should perhaps be 12%. I was given a figure of 41 miles originally, which HMRC then used to put me in the 8% bracket but I was concerned about the effect of having the larger wheels with the Plus Edition. Anyone unsure, should try and get their hands on their vehicles copy of this, I think.

I'm gonna try and get one of those! It's totally clear from the BMW website that the 330e is at worst 12% for 20/21 but seems like some fleet management companies are too lazy to work it out....

[paulf]

Range - 41 miles
CO2 - 37 g/km
https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/unite...language=en_GB

[Blackers]

Originally Posted by paulf

Range - 41 miles
CO2 - 37 g/km
https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/unite...language=en_GB

Thank you for finding this and posting.

So 41 miles it is for pre April 2020 cars.

[paulf]

Originally Posted by Blackers

Thank you for finding this and posting.

So 41 miles it is for pre April 2020 cars.

That's how I'm reading it, and have put forward to the company and the lease provider.

I've requested the certificate of conformity as per Lloydsters post. See if that is different (assuming they supply it to me)

[paulf]

Managed to exchange emails with a representative of the dealer today.

They mentioned:
"From 06/04/20 the range is important it was not on earlier tax years where I think the confusion is coming from at the lease company.

I think your car should have a range of 41 miles under NEDC2 but you need it in writing from lease company from the data BMW send them."

[wassap]

BMW should provide the cerificate of conformity, that will put the issue to bed once and for all. They should have no issue providing this as its a legal item for any product sold in the EU.

[paulf]

Originally Posted by wassap

BMW should provide the cerificate of conformity, that will put the issue to bed once and for all. They should have no issue providing this as its a legal item for any product sold in the EU.

They emailed me back this morning asking why I wanted it!

[lloydster82]

Originally Posted by paulf

They emailed me back this morning asking why I wanted it!

Any product tested to a European standard has to have this certificate and they as the manufacturer have to provide a copy if requested.

[paulf]

Bingo!

37 CO2 emissions
66 km electric range (41 miles)

[seacow]

Just catching up on this thread and just confirmed with HMRC that my BIK is set at 8% for my October registered 330e m sport

[paulf]

Originally Posted by seacow

Just catching up on this thread and just confirmed with HMRC that my BIK is set at 8% for my October registered 330e m sport

Frustratingly, mine still set at 14% thanks to the lease company. I'm kicking up a right stink.

Good news on your front though !!

[seacow]

Originally Posted by paulf

Frustratingly, mine still set at 14% thanks to the lease company. I'm kicking up a right stink.

Good news on your front though !!

Sorry if that came across as gloating was intended to show it can be done! Good luck!

[paulf]

Originally Posted by seacow

Sorry if that came across as gloating was intended to show it can be done! Good luck!

Not at all

About to phone the lease company again, in the hope they have sorted internally

[paulf]

Lease company have now (finally) admitted to their error - caused in two parts. 1 - Misunderstanding the new BIK tax rules and 2 - Not having the correct data from manufacturers.

Hopefully now get money back in June ...

[Blackers]

Originally Posted by paulf

Lease company have now (finally) admitted to their error - caused in two parts. 1 - Misunderstanding the new BIK tax rules and 2 - Not having the correct data from manufacturers.

Hopefully now get money back in June ...

Good news, glad it is sorted

[paulf]

In writing - 8%.... Result.

[F172GLD]

Me too! 8% for 20/21 😁
That’s from the HMRC app.

[lloydster82]

yeah the HMRC web calculator is now updated with all NEDC/WLPT figures, depending when car was registered and seems spot on now.

[woody320]

Originally Posted by F172GLD

Me too! 8% for 20/21 😁
That’s from the HMRC app.

Paul, can you advise exactly what the leasing Company sent to you? HMRC are charging me 14% and wont budge!

[paulf]

Originally Posted by woody320

Paul, can you advise exactly what the leasing Company sent to you? HMRC are charging me 14% and wont budge!

They have sent me an email outlining the new BIK rate and charges. They will also send a report to my payroll department - for them to implement (I am taxed at source). This is based on BMWs data of their vehicles inc the CO2 and all electric ranges under the NEDC calcs.

You can get proof, by requesting the Certificate of Conformity from BMW, and use that with HMRC (and their tax calculator).

HTH
paulf

[tricky6]

Originally Posted by paulf

In writing - 8%.... Result.

Paul, is this with Arval? I've also had a problem and they finally admitted it was all wrong after I raised a formal complaint with HR.

However they came back and told me "12%" but the number (£4428.71) they've given me would imply 10% which makes me think they're applying the post April 2020 rule on my Sept 2019 car.

16% is £7128 - what I was paying in FY19
14% is £6238 - what I've been paying since April '20
10% is £4428 - what they've told me I will pay going forward, with rebate for over payment to date
8% is £3542 - what I should perhaps pay??

Will try and get the official cert from the supplying dealer and see where that leads.