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      09-13-2019, 06:03 PM   #1519
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If that grill looks anything like the 4 series, it will be a good looking car. I will now wait for the M4 as I have been swept up into the grill.
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      09-13-2019, 06:54 PM   #1520
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CSL homage was positive response but this doesn't quite look like that
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      09-13-2019, 06:58 PM   #1521
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This m3 shapes up pretty well. Too bad I used up my m3 ticket and now not sure I will want one ever again. Will see....
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CSL homage was positive response but this doesn't quite look like that
Tell me about it, I wouldn't hesitate to own one
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      09-13-2019, 09:08 PM   #1523
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After the reaction to the 4 series concept, this is their last minute fix....
You wish!
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      09-13-2019, 09:08 PM   #1524
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Bmw is messing with us another quality troll grill
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      09-13-2019, 09:20 PM   #1525
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Needs more cowbell, I mean........ grill.
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If the 4 series concept is any indication, the next M3 grill will be horrible. BMW is trying to compete with Lexus on who can make the largest and ugliest grill on the market.
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      09-13-2019, 10:10 PM   #1527
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Is BMW just trolling all of us? One thing is for certain, the outline is less funky pentagonal vis-a-vis the renderings and more like the recent G22 concept. Getting interesting!
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I'm embracing the new design language. It's growing on me. I've been thinking about personalized license plates. I think "OINK" is the winner.. Maybe, "OINKOINK"
I would chip in for that plate.. ha ha!
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The correct decision and the right answer.
Scott, do you know if there will be a "pure" 6MT Coupe and Sedan? I'm starting to think I may move from 4(2DR) to M4(2DR)... so I can enjoy a 6MT one last new BMW
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[COLOR="SeaGreen"]Scott, do you know if there will be a "pure" 6MT Coupe and Sedan? I'm starting to think I may move from 4(2DR) to M4(2DR)... so I can enjoy a 6MT one last new BMW[/COLOR]
I wonder if the true diehard manual. The shifter will look like a huge zucchini. Grilled on x7 grill.

The auto gets the 4 series grill. Lol
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      09-14-2019, 12:38 AM   #1531
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too bad I am not playing their reindeer games..... as far as I am concerned.. they can put LONGHORNS on the front of their prototype... I will simply wait for the finished product before making any decisions on how I think it looks.
yeah no. this post was too logical and level headed for me.

we're supposed to be enthusiasts. we should be raiding BMW headquarters with torches and pitchforks in hand demanding they bring back the E30 and E46 and make nothing else because they are the greatest cars of all time and BMW have lost their way. over and over again.
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But all my energy is focused on 2 series RWD sedan
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too bad I am not playing their reindeer games..... as far as I am concerned.. they can put LONGHORNS on the front of their prototype... I will simply wait for the finished product before making any decisions on how I think it looks.
yeah no. this post was too logical and level headed for me.

we're supposed to be enthusiasts. we should be raiding BMW headquarters with torches and pitchforks in hand demanding they bring back the E30 and E46 and make nothing else because they are the greatest cars of all time and BMW have lost their way. over and over again.
+1

But all my energy is focused on 2 series RWD sedan
I think the m2 should be for people who love to live in the past. Stay manual. New price for this exclusivity 200k for entry level cloth seats. USA style performance springs. 10k front spoiler option. It's manual w now 7spd.
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      09-14-2019, 03:28 AM   #1532
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to sum up:

we saw this:




then,
this:




and now,
this:





it seems like they don't know what to do
honestly, the first thing to do is to sack the entire design team.

but I have a temporary solution:
BMW, keep the G20 330i's grill (and not the M340i's)
Put that grill on the M3 and you'll be fine.
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      09-14-2019, 04:11 AM   #1533
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[SIZE="4"]to sum up:

we saw this:[/SIZE]

[IMG]https://i.postimg.cc/C5K9TQzm/G80-BMW-M3-2.jpg[/IMG]

[SIZE="4"]then,
this:[/SIZE]

[IMG]https://i.postimg.cc/hvkFL0ts/bmw-m3...66843440-9.jpg[/IMG]

[SIZE="4"]and now,
this:[/SIZE]

[IMG]https://i.postimg.cc/qMTj3YkY/BMW-G8...n-grille-2.jpg[/IMG]


[SIZE="4"]it seems like they don't know what to do
honestly, the first thing to do is to sack the entire design team.

but I have a temporary solution:
BMW, keep the G20 330i's grill (and not the M340i's)
Put that grill on the M3 and you'll be fine.[/SIZE]
You're looking at different test mules in different phases of testing. The middle one is surely an older mule based on what SCOTT26 said, and it's the least developed of the three mules pictured. The first one is likely a version of what we may see as the regular production grille. The last one is anybody's guess, but it's obvious that they are testing certain things. One shouldn't assume that they've lost the plot simply because you/we don't understand what the focus/intent/purpose of that particular mule is.

The 4's from this thread have the Concept's mesh:

BMW G22 4 Series Coupe Has Been Spied! https://g20.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1633309

....so it's really anybody's guess where each grille style will fit in.
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      09-14-2019, 07:41 AM   #1534
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to sum up:

we saw this:


[IMG]https://i.postimg.cc/C5K9TQzm/G80-BMW-M3-2.jpg[/IMG]

then,
this:


[IMG]https://i.postimg.cc/hvkFL0ts/bmw-m3...66843440-9.jpg[/IMG]

and now,
this:


[IMG]https://i.postimg.cc/qMTj3YkY/BMW-G8...n-grille-2.jpg[/IMG]


it seems like they don't know what to do
honestly, the first thing to do is to sack the entire design team.

but I have a temporary solution:
BMW, keep the G20 330i's grill (and not the M340i's)
Put that grill on the M3 and you'll be fine.
FYI. The board is responsible for the design.
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It's kind of amazing how many people complain about a product that is obviously unfinished.

Not liking the potential size of the grill I get to an extent. Commenting that a heavily camouflaged test mule has pieces that look unrefined or roughly pieced together makes no sense. Next we'll have people hating the camo'ed swirly black and white paint job, whining about how it hides the lines of the car too much.

I'm not a big fan of what we think the grill will look like. But I'm also reserving final judgement for the final product.
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Looks like a jail cell. It's keeping the engine locked up
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Audi went through this transition from small grilles to large ones over a decade ago. At first, everyone hated it. But today, most Audi owners envy it and couldn’t stand to see an Audi without it.

In the end, everything grows on people. Design changes were always controversial in BMW’s past.

The only M car that probably wasn’t controversial was the e30 M3 and that’s because it was the first one.

I vividly remember that the e36 M3 was not welcomed with open arms. Same thing happened with the e46 M3. And then the e9x received a lot of hate from enthusiasts, as well.
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I think the finished product will look good.

I have a feeling the grill will be large, but maybe only 80% (random number I pulled out of thin air) of the size of the concept 4. So still large but slightly "refined." Add in all the little M touches and it should look real mean. Excited to see it.
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Audi went through this transition from small grilles to large ones over a decade ago. At first, everyone hated it. But today, most Audi owners envy it and couldn't stand to see an Audi without it.

In the end, everything grows on people. Design changes were always controversial in BMW's past.

The only M car that probably wasn't controversial was the e30 M3 and that's because it was the first one.

I vividly remember that the e36 M3 was not welcomed with open arms. Same thing happened with the e46 M3. And then the e9x received a lot of hate from enthusiasts, as well.
...also keep in mind that there was no internet for the loudest crybabies to air their thoughts for large scale public consumption when the E30 came about. The internet amplifies everything.
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Personally I'm holding my final judgment until it is revealed however from looking at the concept I'm not too optimistic.
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