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      02-26-2019, 03:03 PM   #23
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Are the new keys that only work for comfort access while in motion available to order yet?
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I don't get it. What is the benefit of the card over the fob?
After getting used to never taking the fob out of my pocket, that would be annoying.
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I just like that they fixed a few issues with the F30; fold mirrors when locking car, synced cabin temps, better arm rest storage, memory seat buttons where you can actually see them. The only thing I hoped they also fixed is the uber slow washer fluid fill up...
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The BMW Key Card only works on the drivers door and can only be used to lock, unlock, and drive the vehicle. It will not switch Connected Drive Profiles.

You must put the Key Card on the NFC pad to drive the vehicle.

You can use a compatible Samsung phone as a Digital Key as long as Verizon is NOT your carrier, Verizon does not supports NFC with BMW yet.
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I just like that they fixed a few issues with the F30; fold mirrors when locking car, synced cabin temps, better arm rest storage, memory seat buttons where you can actually see them. The only thing I hoped they also fixed is the uber slow washer fluid fill up...
And a sunglasses holder.....
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      02-26-2019, 03:57 PM   #28
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So they copied this feature from the Tesla Model 3 including the unlock when approaching and lock when walking away feature. Have they made the phone key available for iPhone yet or is it still only Android? Thought it was weird you can get Apple Car Play but not Android Auto, then for the key it's the opposite.
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Possible to turn off the seatbelt chime?
Why wouldn't you just wear your seatbelt?
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      02-26-2019, 06:35 PM   #31
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So they copied this feature from the Tesla Model 3 including the unlock when approaching and lock when walking away feature. Have they made the phone key available for iPhone yet or is it still only Android? Thought it was weird you can get Apple Car Play but not Android Auto, then for the key it's the opposite.
The two are mutually exclusive issues.

1) The lack of iPhone Digital Key support is because of Apple, not BMW. BMW would certainly prefer the Digital Key to work on iPhones, but Apple only allows NFC for Apple Pay, so until Apple removes this restriction the Digital Key won't work. Hopefully that's coming in a future iOS update. It also doesn't work on Verizon Droids, because of restrictions Verizon places on their versions of their phones. BMW can't fix these, changes have to come from Apple and Verizon.

2) The lack of Android Auto in the car is because BMW feels Android Auto is not secure enough against hacking, and doesn't want to provide Google with their customer data per Google's requirements. They begrudgingly offer CarPlay, but if we're being honest, they want you using iDrive, not either of those systems. They didn't spend billions of dollars creating their bespoke iDrive system just so people could have the same interface in their $120k BMW that they see in a $12k Kia rental car.
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      02-26-2019, 07:06 PM   #32
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How about: "Wipe thoroughly when done"?
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Is the key card waterproof? Thanks!
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Not sure and I am not testing it LOL
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      02-26-2019, 08:13 PM   #35
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The lack of Android Auto in the car is because BMW feels Android Auto is not secure enough against hacking
So virtually ALL the other car companies are less concerned about hacking???

BMW is really acting to protecting us from evil hackers??

I think they made a wrong business bet about mobile technology, and will have to recant in the very short term, or will keep loosing clients to other brands (that are listening to their clients).
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Possible to turn off the seatbelt chime?
I believe it is legally required.
Besides, please have your seat belts on when you drive..
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So they copied this feature from the Tesla Model 3 including the unlock when approaching and lock when walking away feature. Have they made the phone key available for iPhone yet or is it still only Android? Thought it was weird you can get Apple Car Play but not Android Auto, then for the key it's the opposite.
The two are mutually exclusive issues.

1) The lack of iPhone Digital Key support is because of Apple, not BMW. BMW would certainly prefer the Digital Key to work on iPhones, but Apple only allows NFC for Apple Pay, so until Apple removes this restriction the Digital Key won't work. Hopefully that's coming in a future iOS update. It also doesn't work on Verizon Droids, because of restrictions Verizon places on their versions of their phones. BMW can't fix these, changes have to come from Apple and Verizon.

2) The lack of Android Auto in the car is because BMW feels Android Auto is not secure enough against hacking, and doesn't want to provide Google with their customer data per Google's requirements. They begrudgingly offer CarPlay, but if we're being honest, they want you using iDrive, not either of those systems. They didn't spend billions of dollars creating their bespoke iDrive system just so people could have the same interface in their $120k BMW that they see in a $12k Kia rental car.
Or they could have utilized Bluetooth instead of NFC and not had to worry about it.
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      02-27-2019, 06:21 AM   #38
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Why wouldn't you just wear your seatbelt?
Not the debate I'm going to engage in. I was just asking if it's on the list.
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Possible to turn off the seatbelt chime?
Too easy. Buckle your seatbelt.
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Happy to see you can have the mirrors fold in when locking the doors (I assume then that they unfold when you unlock the doors). This was the only thing I wanted on my F30 and I had to code the car to get it.
It is a standard feature on the F30. You only have to hold "lock" (either on the key fob or touch the spot at the door handle for 2-3 seconds).
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      02-27-2019, 07:48 AM   #41
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It is a standard feature on the F30. You only have to hold "lock" (either on the key fob or touch the spot at the door handle for 2-3 seconds).
Not on US F30s, it has to be coded. With the newer US vehicles they've added the option choice for it in iDrive.
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      02-27-2019, 08:23 AM   #42
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I believe it is legally required.
Besides, please have your seat belts on when you drive..
Wearing them is legally required in many states but know of no law requiring the chime.

I suspect it's not an option but want to know for sure.
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      02-27-2019, 09:15 AM   #43
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JRobUSC ,

And the fact that you can unlock a G20 with an Android phone (at least one whose carrier has allowed NFC like mine with T-Mobile) is the real kick in the pants as to BMW ignoring Android in favor of iPhones -- you can unloack your G20 with an Android, BUT you can't access the phone's apps with the car's iDrive.

Go Figure!
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I don't get it. What is the benefit of the card over the fob?
After getting used to never taking the fob out of my pocket, that would be annoying.
I honestly have no idea what is the purpose of this? The fact that its slimmer than your keyfob? Fine, I get that! But the fact that you need to take the card out of your pocket/purse (or wherever you keep it) seems ridiculous at this point in time.

I had a client who had a 2003 and 2005 SL55 back in those days and the card worked exactly like the keyfob. Just keep it in your pocket and you can lock, unlock and start the car.

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