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      10-20-2020, 04:09 PM   #705
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Thanks for the advice! I just responded we were too far apart and he responded asking what price we have to be at to make a deal today, not sure I want to deal with him though.
The answer to the "what do we have to do..." question is always to respond with, "get me as close as you can to my original request. I'm not in a rush."
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      10-20-2020, 04:10 PM   #706
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Thanks for the advice! I just responded we were too far apart and he responded asking what price we have to be at to make a deal today, not sure I want to deal with him though.

Also, is the loyalty incentive really $2000? The BMW USA website says $1000 but Im not sure if that is accurate.
I don't think it can hurt to throw out the number you want back to him, but I just wouldn't waste a ton of time going back and forth.

Regarding the loyalty incentive, I generally rely on the Edmunds message boards for up to date lease incentives. This is the thread where I saw the $2000 loyalty number. You can post there, with your zip code, and they will get you up to date numbers. Just ask specifically for what incentives you want; i.e. if you don't ask for loyalty or conquest, many times they don't post it.
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      10-20-2020, 05:57 PM   #707
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I just got an ever better response than the last.

This m340i was 60,960 so I offered 11% off MSRP. He responded with the car being 67,000 and he is only willing to offer 2 or 3 grand off and that we are too far apart so to have a nice day. I just responded that I don't know how he got that cost but he needs to update his listing. He then tries to call me but I hit the ignore button so he texts me asking I was talking about a x3 m40i. Makes no sense because he just needs to scroll up in his text and see I asked about a white 2020 m340i.

I think he was trying to play dumb and maybe hope I would give up on trying to get a better deal but he just turned me off to the sale. He offered "his best" of $4000 off plus $3000 in incentives but still a terrible deal I feel for California. Not even going to counter offer.
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      10-21-2020, 07:17 AM   #708
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I have found if you insult them off the bat, they don't want to play ball. If you have a reasonable request and tell them dealer ABC is willing to do $xxx, they are more willing to work with you since they know you are shopping and have worked numbers.
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      10-21-2020, 07:21 AM   #709
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I have found if you insult them off the bat, they don't want to play ball. If you have a reasonable request and tell them dealer ABC is willing to do $xxx, they are more willing to work with you since they know you are shopping and have worked numbers.


A little bit of respect and courtesy usually goes a long way. If you're polite and respectful, more often than not, the salesman will be happy to play ball. Same as when you get pulled over.

There's a little saying I love that goes like this: "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes."
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I agree with both posts above me. Come in reasonable, but firm. If they can't get to the numbers you want, be polite and move on. Sometimes they will come back to you, even if you get turned down initially.

But if they think you are going to be a troublesome customer or give a poor post-sale rating (which affects their performance reviews both internal and from corporate), they will just throw out a crazy number to get rid of you.
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      10-22-2020, 08:42 PM   #711
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These past few days i found that all the dealers around me with the last remaining 2020 models are barely wanting to offer around 6% off MSRP. I guess i know why they have those models still sitting on their lot.
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These past few days i found that all the dealers around me with the last remaining 2020 models are barely wanting to offer around 6% off MSRP. I guess i know why they have those models still sitting on their lot.
Yes, this has been my experience in the past. There is generally a sweet spot with left over prior model year inventory. Beyond that point, the leftovers are usually leftover for a reason: either weird or terrible options, or the dealers have unrealistic expectations for pricing.

Have you considered a '21? Even ordering one you can get pretty strong discounts at the moment.
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      10-22-2020, 09:58 PM   #713
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These past few days i found that all the dealers around me with the last remaining 2020 models are barely wanting to offer around 6% off MSRP. I guess i know why they have those models still sitting on their lot.
Yes, this has been my experience in the past. There is generally a sweet spot with left over prior model year inventory. Beyond that point, the leftovers are usually leftover for a reason: either weird or terrible options, or the dealers have unrealistic expectations for pricing.

Have you considered a '21? Even ordering one you can get pretty strong discounts at the moment.
8% off is the best I've gotten so far for a 2021. Feel that's reasonable and definitely better than what I've been getting when compared to 2020's. Plus the $2000 incentive helps. Might work a deal with that if the car is right.

BTW has getting the Vernasca leather felt worth it to those of you who've optioned it ?

I've sat in the Synthetic black seats and they were surprisingly comfortable when compared to the F30 seats. Haven't gotten a chance to try the real leather ones but just curious if I should try them or save $1500.
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8% off is the best I've gotten so far for a 2021. Feel that's reasonable and definitely better than what I've been getting when compared to 2020's. Plus the $2000 incentive helps. Might work a deal with that if the car is right.

BTW has getting the Vernasca leather felt worth it to those of you who've optioned it ?

I've sat in the Synthetic black seats and they were surprisingly comfortable when compared to the F30 seats. Haven't gotten a chance to try the real leather ones but just curious if I should try them or save $1500.
I haven't tried the seats yet but I ordered the Vernasca leather based on the looks alone. I don't like the look of the Sensatec seats. I heard the Sensatec are softer and more comfortable.
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i have a 2020 m340i i'm looking to lease, can anyone chime in on this.

Numbers are as follows:

MSRP: 57330
Sales Price: 49331 (including a corporate discount of $2k)
36 month / 12k miles per year
58% residual
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Looking at around $510/month with right around $1k drive off plus the MSD.

Leasehackr rates this at 9.7 years basically, I'm going to ask for $800 more off and hope for $500 which puts it right at 10 years. This price includes shipping from Houston to California

I haven't told them about the corporate discount yet either.
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i have a 2020 m340i i'm looking to lease, can anyone chime in on this.

Numbers are as follows:

MSRP: 57330
Sales Price: 49331 (including a corporate discount of $2k)
36 month / 12k miles per year
58% residual
.00047 MF
7 MSD

Looking at around $510/month with right around $1k drive off plus the MSD.

Leasehackr rates this at 9.7 years basically, I'm going to ask for $800 more off and hope for $500 which puts it right at 10 years. This price includes shipping from Houston to California

I haven't told them about the corporate discount yet either.
Your corporate discount may preclude other incentives so I wouldn't 'hide' it from the dealer...
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      10-23-2020, 09:57 PM   #717
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i have a 2020 m340i i'm looking to lease, can anyone chime in on this.

Numbers are as follows:

MSRP: 57330
Sales Price: 49331 (including a corporate discount of $2k)
36 month / 12k miles per year
58% residual
.00047 MF
7 MSD

Looking at around $510/month with right around $1k drive off plus the MSD.

Leasehackr rates this at 9.7 years basically, I'm going to ask for $800 more off and hope for $500 which puts it right at 10 years. This price includes shipping from Houston to California

I haven't told them about the corporate discount yet either.
I had a corporate discount and it counts as a incentive and it's only stackable with lease credit and loyalty
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      10-24-2020, 05:56 PM   #718
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Can someone please tell me where I can find the m-part pricing sheet for MY2021? Cannot seem to find this anywhere and getting ready to order an M340i over the next couple of weeks.
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      10-24-2020, 06:53 PM   #719
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Can someone please tell me where I can find the m-part pricing sheet for MY2021? Cannot seem to find this anywhere and getting ready to order an M340i over the next couple of weeks.
It's the same prices as the 2020
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      10-25-2020, 06:36 AM   #720
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First lease, did I get a good deal?

I'm about to get my first new BMW with a lease but I have a couple of questions. I know most of you guys here are from the USA but since I'm from the EU I'll convert the price to USD/EUR, the car is a G20 with a few options...

Full price: 41.000€ / $48,650
Discounted price: 35.700€ / $42,350

Initial payment: 5500€ / $6500
Lease cost of 550 € / $650 per month for 36 months
Milage: 30000km / 18500 mi per year
The cost per month includes local taxes like VAT (19%) and full insurance (~$90)

After 36 months, I have the option to pay for the rest of the car or lease another new one. I'm not really planning to purchase it.

How does this deal look? This is the first offer I got after I sent the dealer my configuration, should I try to negotiate a better deal?
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      10-25-2020, 03:08 PM   #721
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Can someone please tell me where I can find the m-part pricing sheet for MY2021? Cannot seem to find this anywhere and getting ready to order an M340i over the next couple of weeks.
I'd suggest you ask your dealer for the pricing. Mine was able to give me pricing on all the options. Is there a specific option you want the price for?
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      10-27-2020, 04:24 PM   #722
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i am looking for a decent lease pricing on 2020/2021 330i /330i xdrive with Vernasca leather seating,
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Drive asst pro ,
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Prem Pkg ..
please advice what is the best price from you purchase experience
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i am looking for a decent lease pricing on 2020/2021 330i /330i xdrive with Vernasca leather seating,
Drive Asst,
Drive asst pro ,
Park Assit,
Prem Pkg ..
please advice what is the best price from you purchase experience
Take a look at the broker offerings on leasehackr
https://forum.leasehackr.com/c/marketplace/7
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