Official G20 3 Series Quotes, Pricing and Lease Rates Thread

cle12345678 · 09-21-2020, 03:30 PM

Any good recommendations for nationwide dealers that can offer favorable pricing on custom orders? I reached out to Bimmerdavid.com twice based on recommendations I had seen here but never heard back.

Vmaxx · 09-21-2020, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by cle12345678

Any good recommendations for nationwide dealers that can offer favorable pricing on custom orders? I reached out to Bimmerdavid.com twice based on recommendations I had seen here but never heard back.

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Casone238 · 09-21-2020, 06:54 PM

There are a few brokers offering 9-11 % off the msrp the ones I know of are located in the north east. What you can do is place a order with them and do a PCD and take the trip from SC back to Texas. A little road trip but it will speed up the break in period

emailsandtoast · 09-21-2020, 08:24 PM

Signing a deal for a 2020 M340i:

MSRP: 61k
Negotiated price: 53.68k

Term: 36/10
Down payment: $0
7MSD
Monthly: ~$550 (tax included)
Residual: 59%

mhkorean · 09-21-2020, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by emailsandtoast

Signing a deal for a 2020 M340i:

MSRP: 61k
Negotiated price: 53.68k

Term: 36/10
Down payment: $0
7MSD
Monthly: ~$550 (tax included)
Residual: 59%

Very good deal!
If don't mind sharing where did you end up getting this deal from? You can DM me.

NickDunganClientAdvisor · 09-30-2020, 06:29 PM

I'm a client advisor for a dealer in NorCal, let me know if you guys have any needs or questions. We just got a few m340i's in.

jdbimmer · 10-01-2020, 06:14 AM

Looks like we got some lease credit for October ($1500?) and loyalty ($500) but the residual dropped 1% for M340s (based on what I see from bmwusa.com)? I wonder if the special $500 lease loyalty is also still available? Overall, slightly better for October. I pick up my car this afternoon 😃

RoyB · 10-01-2020, 07:23 AM

What is standard off MSRP for an M340ix?

I stopped at a dealer yesterday and the best they would do was 5% off sticker (61.5K) & $500 BMW credit. With 7MSD they wanted something like $820/mo.

I told them I would sign @ $600/mo with taxes (approx 12% off total) and they looked at me like I had 3 heads and said the most they could do was 6%.

I walked away since they didn't have one with the package I wanted and they didn't seem interested in playing hard ball.

mf44 · 10-01-2020, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by RoyB

What is standard off MSRP for an M340ix?

I stopped at a dealer yesterday and the best they would do was 5% off sticker (61.5K) & $500 BMW credit. With 7MSD they wanted something like $820/mo.

I told them I would sign @ $600/mo with taxes (approx 12% off total) and they looked at me like I had 3 heads and said the most they could do was 6%.

I walked away since they didn't have one with the package I wanted and they didn't seem interested in playing hard ball.

Right now, for ordered cars, brokers can get you between 9 and 10.5% before applying any available incentives, with base MF. This should help you in defining what is doable.

RoyB · 10-01-2020, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by mf44

Right now, for ordered cars, brokers can get you between 9 and 10.5% before applying any available incentives, with base MF. This should help you in defining what is doable.

Thank you for the quick reply. Are ordered cars generally better discounted than ones sitting on the lots?

Running rough numbers, a 62K car @ 8% + $1500 lease credit (not sure about loyalty credit?) should sit about $630 pre tax with no MSD (12K a year). Closer to $600/mo if the dealer is giving 10%.

I wouldn't feel so bad about losing money on the X3M if the payment is that low.

mf44 · 10-01-2020, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by RoyB

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Originally Posted by mf44

Right now, for ordered cars, brokers can get you between 9 and 10.5% before applying any available incentives, with base MF. This should help you in defining what is doable.

Thank you for the quick reply. Are ordered cars generally better discounted than ones sitting on the lots?

Running rough numbers, a 62K car @ 8% + $1500 lease credit (not sure about loyalty credit?) should sit about $630 pre tax with no MSD (12K a year). Closer to $600/mo if the dealer is giving 10%.

I wouldn't feel so bad about losing money on the X3M if the payment is that low.

In normal times you would get a better deal on an in stock unit. However, with inventory still relatively tight, ordered cars sometimes have a better discount right now.

The main reason i gave this info is because it gives you a floor. If a dealer can't match or beat that on an in stock unit, you always have the option to order through a broker.

That being said, the brokers I know of are in the northeast and it doesn't look like you are. You'd either need to find a broker local to you or ship a car.

Casone238 · 10-01-2020, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by jdbimmer

Looks like we got some lease credit for October ($1500?) and loyalty ($500) but the residual dropped 1% for M340s (based on what I see from bmwusa.com)? I wonder if the special $500 lease loyalty is also still available? Overall, slightly better for October. I pick up my car this afternoon 😃

That's what it looks like and the MF dropped to .00082 and im not sure about the lease to lease incentive. Good thing we waited lol

mf44 · 10-01-2020, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Casone238

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Originally Posted by jdbimmer

Looks like we got some lease credit for October ($1500?) and loyalty ($500) but the residual dropped 1% for M340s (based on what I see from bmwusa.com)? I wonder if the special $500 lease loyalty is also still available? Overall, slightly better for October. I pick up my car this afternoon 😃

That's what it looks like and the MF dropped to .00082 and im not sure about the lease to lease incentive. Good thing we waited lol

Lease to lease credit is still there, I'm told. Does anyone know if BMW has a minimum MF after applying MSDs?

Casone238 · 10-01-2020, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by mf44

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Originally Posted by Casone238

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Originally Posted by jdbimmer

Looks like we got some lease credit for October ($1500?) and loyalty ($500) but the residual dropped 1% for M340s (based on what I see from bmwusa.com)? I wonder if the special $500 lease loyalty is also still available? Overall, slightly better for October. I pick up my car this afternoon 😃

That's what it looks like and the MF dropped to .00082 and im not sure about the lease to lease incentive. Good thing we waited lol

Lease to lease credit is still there, I'm told. Does anyone know if BMW has a minimum MF after applying MSDs?

According to my CA 1.13% .00047

mf44 · 10-01-2020, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Casone238

According to my CA 1.13% .00047

Assuming your CA is correct, that's great! I've heard some other brands bottom out at .0005. .00047 is what it would be with max MSDs applied, so that would be nice.

RoyB · 10-01-2020, 10:51 AM

Thoughts on this deal:

MSRP: $64,650
36/10K (supposed to be 12K)
I owe 7K on my trade
7x MSD
8.25% tax rate
$0 down other than MSD & Docs
$904/mo

If you back the trade out, ~$200/mo, that drops to $700/mo with tax/$646 pre-tax.

Using the calculator that comes out to 7% total off MSRP using .00082 MF which is a good deal, but still not great imo.

I told him I wanted $825 w/trade originally. That comes to roughly 11% off MSRP. $75 over 36 payments is a decent amount. Either way, the payment is substantially less than I am paying now, even being upside down, so that is the plus

mf44 · 10-01-2020, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by RoyB

Thoughts on this deal:

MSRP: $64,650
36/10K (supposed to be 12K)
I owe 7K on my trade
7x MSD
8.25% tax rate
$0 down other than MSD & Docs
$904/mo

If you back the trade out, ~$200/mo, that drops to $700/mo with tax/$646 pre-tax.

Using the calculator that comes out to 7% total off MSRP using .00082 MF which is a good deal, but still not great imo.

I told him I wanted $825 w/trade originally. That comes to roughly 11% off MSRP. $75 over 36 payments is a decent amount. Either way, the payment is substantially less than I am paying now, even being upside down, so that is the plus

RoyB, I think you need to get a better breakdown from your dealer. Assuming the following:

-$64650 MSRP
-7% pre-incentive discount
-base MF (.00082)
-max MSDs (reducing MF to .00047)
-$2500 in taxable incentives ($1500 dealer cash, $500 loyalty, $500 BMW lease to lease cash)
-paying DMV and dealer doc fees upfront
-8.25% tax rate

I'm getting $630 pre-tax, $682 including tax. This is without factoring in your negative equity. Without an exact number on the negative equity, we can't give an exact number on a target payment. I'm wondering if they are marking up the MF any, or including incentives in your discount?

RoyB · 10-01-2020, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by mf44

RoyB, I think you need to get a better breakdown from your dealer. Assuming the following:

-$64650 MSRP
-7% pre-incentive discount
-base MF (.00082)
-max MSDs (reducing MF to .00047)
-$2500 in taxable incentives ($1500 dealer cash, $500 loyalty, $500 BMW lease to lease cash)
-paying DMV and dealer doc fees upfront
-8.25% tax rate

I'm getting $630 pre-tax, $682 including tax. This is without factoring in your negative equity. Without an exact number on the negative equity, we can't give an exact number on a target payment. I'm wondering if they are marking up the MF any, or including incentives in your discount?

Yes, I agree. this was over the phone so he rattled off a bunch of things.

Key words were

$1000 under invoice
no markup on mf
$904/mo

I tried to run the numbers backwards and we seem pretty close. My payoff is $69,000. They are offering $62,000 buyout (matching BMFS early termination amount).

The rest of the numbers I kind of filled in.

I do much better seeing numbers in person.

They started at $1080 and I told him he was nuts.

gofast182 · 10-01-2020, 01:35 PM

Are October programs and MFs out yet?

jdbimmer · 10-01-2020, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by gofast182

Are October programs and MFs out yet?

It appears like:

330/M340i is 58% @ 10k/yr
.00082 MF

$1500 lease credit
$500 loyalty
$500 lease to lease credit

JTYAMSHAYIN · 10-01-2020, 02:07 PM

Any recommendations on a good California dealer? Preferably northern but willing to drive south if needed. Looking to trade in my 2018 330i and lease a M340i after I get this extended warranty I purchased refunded.

Casone238 · 10-01-2020, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jdbimmer

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Originally Posted by gofast182

Are October programs and MFs out yet?

It appears like:

330/M340i is 58% @ 10k/yr
.00082 MF

$1500 lease credit
$500 loyalty
$500 lease to lease credit

If you don't mind when you take delivery share what were the incentives there seems to be a lot of confusion and ambiguity

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cle12345678 New Member 0 Rep 7 Posts Drives: 2022 X3 M40I Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: TX iTrader: (0)	Any good recommendations for nationwide dealers that can offer favorable pricing on custom orders? I reached out to Bimmerdavid.com twice based on recommendations I had seen here but never heard back.
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Casone238 Captain 528 Rep 645 Posts Drives: M340 Join Date: May 2020 Location: Connectcuit iTrader: (0)	There are a few brokers offering 9-11 % off the msrp the ones I know of are located in the north east. What you can do is place a order with them and do a PCD and take the trip from SC back to Texas. A little road trip but it will speed up the break in period
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emailsandtoast New Member 0 Rep 5 Posts Drives: BMW 330i Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: California iTrader: (0)	Signing a deal for a 2020 M340i: MSRP: 61k Negotiated price: 53.68k Term: 36/10 Down payment: $0 7MSD Monthly: ~$550 (tax included) Residual: 59%
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NickDunganClientAdvisor New Member 2 Rep 6 Posts Drives: e36 m3, 2018 330e Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: San Francisco iTrader: (0)	I'm a client advisor for a dealer in NorCal, let me know if you guys have any needs or questions. We just got a few m340i's in.
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jdbimmer Enlisted Member 6 Rep 48 Posts Drives: M340i Join Date: Jul 2020 Location: PA iTrader: (0)	Looks like we got some lease credit for October ($1500?) and loyalty ($500) but the residual dropped 1% for M340s (based on what I see from bmwusa.com)? I wonder if the special $500 lease loyalty is also still available? Overall, slightly better for October. I pick up my car this afternoon 😃
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RoyB Second Lieutenant 166 Rep 272 Posts Drives: 2021 M340i x Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: Chicago iTrader: (0)	What is standard off MSRP for an M340ix? I stopped at a dealer yesterday and the best they would do was 5% off sticker (61.5K) & $500 BMW credit. With 7MSD they wanted something like $820/mo. I told them I would sign @ $600/mo with taxes (approx 12% off total) and they looked at me like I had 3 heads and said the most they could do was 6%. I walked away since they didn't have one with the package I wanted and they didn't seem interested in playing hard ball.
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RoyB Second Lieutenant 166 Rep 272 Posts Drives: 2021 M340i x Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: Chicago iTrader: (0)	Thoughts on this deal: MSRP: $64,650 36/10K (supposed to be 12K) I owe 7K on my trade 7x MSD 8.25% tax rate $0 down other than MSD & Docs $904/mo If you back the trade out, ~$200/mo, that drops to $700/mo with tax/$646 pre-tax. Using the calculator that comes out to 7% total off MSRP using .00082 MF which is a good deal, but still not great imo. I told him I wanted $825 w/trade originally. That comes to roughly 11% off MSRP. $75 over 36 payments is a decent amount. Either way, the payment is substantially less than I am paying now, even being upside down, so that is the plus
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gofast182 Captain 628 Rep 773 Posts Drives: 2020 M340i xDrive Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: New Jersey iTrader: (0)	Are October programs and MFs out yet? __________________ 2020 M340i xDrive, Portimao Blue 2019 X5 xDrive 40i, Mineral White 2006 S2000, Berlina Black (Track car)
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JTYAMSHAYIN Second Lieutenant 241 Rep 287 Posts Drives: BMW 330i Join Date: Jul 2020 Location: North Cal iTrader: (0)	Any recommendations on a good California dealer? Preferably northern but willing to drive south if needed. Looking to trade in my 2018 330i and lease a M340i after I get this extended warranty I purchased refunded.
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