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I think there analysis is spot on
I have driven all these cars extensively and was looking for the M340 to be more aggressive and sportier .. Agree that the 330 overall felt better and more coordinated drive train for those who have not driven the C43 , do yourself a favor and drive one , it is fun engaging car and will put a smile on your face , and make sure you drive one with performance exhaust only draw back for c43 is they lease poorly |
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Those older cars were a blast to even drive at the speed limit, the new one not so much. Just sort of cruises in comfort and isolation, with the grooves in the road having no effect on the steering wheel.
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Have you driven an S4? Your statement of slow (although it's just as fast as the 340 and C43) and soft or much more "generic" and "poor"...
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Secondly, my family drives S5's and A8 and my wife's E84 x1 handling is sharper and much better than both. Go figure. Even she mentioned that her car is more nimble and responsive. Yeah, I drove the A4, the S4 but no, I would not look at the S4 as is out of my interest in every aspect. For me daily driver means the best for my daily trips and -besides the terrible interior (for me)- the A4 is not even close to what I am looking for. And if I need to pick, a 3 series with M pack fully loaded will be my choice by far... |
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07-04-2019, 12:50 PM | #53 |
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My thoughts after the M Town Tour...I was expecting more from the M340i...more pomp and flash. It was more subdued and comfortable...not loud whatsoever.
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I think the Mercedes is actually the opposite of the M340i, the C43 borrows more from its full AMG sibling, the C63, rather than its more traditional and luxurious regular C300 model. And because of this, it does have some AMG-like qualities such as a loud exhaust, with exhaust blips on upshifts, and a stiff suspension, all of which can either be good or bad depending on your preference, because some may want that AMG-like experience for less, or they may just want the comfort and refinement of a C300 just with a V6 instead of a 4 cylinder and without the harsher suspension and loud exhaust, like the people who just want a luxury line 340i to exist, as they don't care for any of the M-performance bits, they just want the smoother and more refined engine and less flashy appearance. I have adjusted to the new model hierarchy w/ BMW and Merc where they put the M and AMG badges on cars that aren't fully built by these separate divisions, and while it may have been annoying at first, it definitely will not change, so my peace has been made and I don't get mad about it anymore, but I do think, if they are going to be making these M-Performance models, they should borrow a little more from the M division, because in my opinion the M340i is a great car, but it doesn't have many distinctive differences other than its powertrain from that of a 330i in M-Sport guise with similar options. So in the end, I definitely see what the hosts of Throttle House are saying. Essentially if you don't need the extra second shaved from your 0-60 time, and don't mind having a 4 cylinder engine, the 330i is a perfect car for you, as the M340i really only adds those features because of its larger engine. Both cars will handle relatively similarly, and have many of the same options cosmetically and mechanically, providing a similar experience, just one being slower than the other, and heck the 330i may handle better due to it weighing less overall and over the front, and its newer designed steering rack which may have more feedback, I remember once Road & Track decided that the 228i was the best 2 series to buy because of this, they found that the decrease in weight provided a better driving experience, but in the end, like they said, all 3 cars are a great choice that you can't go wrong with. Anyways, thats just my thoughts and opinions, I'm sure others will be different or maybe similar.
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Price difference between equally spec'd xDrive M340i and 330i on my build is about $6k or $100/mo on lease. I'll take the B58 thanks.
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Do you want a car that breaks your back every time you hit a pothole or do you want the car to iron out bumps so you don't feel them? Do you want a quiet ride or do you want to constantly be hearing wind noise?
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I don't think it would be heresy to say that the S4 would be the best daily driver out of these three.
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base model is the indicator of the car performance not only for f30 but also for all other platforms. That's why Turner Motorsport and other tuners often take base model and equip it with track suspension and engine mods. e46 325 Turner car won many races. e36 prepped base cars are brilliant. F30 328 is a nice base for any track project as well. G20 just takes it to another level - body is stiffer, suspension tighter. I would take 330 over any Mercedes. Audi is not even in consideration set. Alfa romeo base model will be better vs any audi a4 based variants |
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