[Ibiza]

Originally Posted by M3GymNut

Would you have preferred the hard top or no?

It's a toss up, I started with BMW soft top convertibles and was exited for the hard top convertible for the E93/F33//F83, but it so slow to close up when caught in a thunderstorm. I'm looking forward to the soft top for the G83/G23. 👍

[Germanauto]

Prototype and "first" reviews only espouse positive sentiments. I take them with a grain of salt.

[rjd598]

Originally Posted by Germanauto

Prototype and "first" reviews only espouse positive sentiments. I take them with a grain of salt.

I also don’t know who would ever trust schmee lol

[ron_jeremy]

The benchmark tester for me is Chris Harris, he need to okay it, then i know it's decent.

[evanescent03]

Originally Posted by ron_jeremy

The benchmark tester for me is Chris Harris, he need to okay it, then i know it's decent.

That's what I waited for last time lol!

[brad850csi]

Originally Posted by AUSf22

Interesting point is, how much more weight the M xDrive will add, I'm sure the 30hp increase in hp will more than compensate, especially with the added traction.

I guess for the regions that see more ice and snow the xDrive makes way more sense.

If you look at the spec sheets for the G20 and G30 it will be around 80kg, all at the front as well of course. I'm going to guess 51-52% front for the 6MT RWD, 52-53% for the 8AT RWD and perhaps 54-55% for the AWD

[brad850csi]

Originally Posted by seis-speed

He is doing something right, he is always first on the new cars. I heard him interviewed once and he was really very likable, smart, humble, the tone he was talking in was slightly different from the one used in his vids and more preferable, IMO, but I was definitely more inclined to watch his videos after.

I met him when he was in NZ about 3 years ago and he was a super nice guy hanging out with everyone at the Lambo/Aston/Bentley dealership in Auckland for hours chatting with everyone in a super friendly manner while remaining professional. I must admit I don't like the chee-ee-eers at the end of every video but if given the opportunity I'd be more than happy to have a beer with him anytime. There is a place on youtube for him, carfection, engineering explained, vinwiki, etc in my mind

[brad850csi]

Originally Posted by BimmerMat135

Is there a torque limit at 550nm for the current 6 speed manual? It seem like the manual version will have 473bhp but only 406ft-lbs.

The F10 M5 and F06/12/13 M6 had 680nm or 502lbft with (what was effectively) the same gearbox.

[PackPride85]

Originally Posted by BimmerMat135

Is there a torque limit at 550nm for the current 6 speed manual? It seem like the manual version will have 473bhp but only 406ft-lbs.

442 ft-lbs for the base, 479 for the comp.

If its the same trans as the F10 M5 they're really stringing it along (since 2011).

[pbar]

Originally Posted by ron_jeremy

The benchmark tester for me is Chris Harris, he need to okay it, then i know it's decent.

I will be waiting until Chris Harris drives the auto transmission.

[KevinM]

This might be the first generation of M3s that the automotive press doesn't keep harping about how the previous generation was more pure (at least in MT/RWD spec)/better...Wow.

[FrozenE92M3]

Holy crap, Shmee is such a toolbag, makes my ears bleed.

[Ghostriderf80]

Interesting, why is there a 5 inch gap over the front? Is this for the USA market?

I noticed that after schmee drove the car and walked around to the front, he held back some vomit after noticing the front body work. LOL

I dunno what they have done to the car but it cannot be that good looking.

[535i MSport]

Originally Posted by AP

He works hard on producing these videos for us.

The bug on the inside of the windscreen seemed to take all in his stride.

[Karmic Man]

The front seems to have plenty of room left to fit a 295 or even a 305

[Wills2]

Originally Posted by PackPride85

442 ft-lbs for the base, 479 for the comp.

The 479 number is wrong, the engine will have the same torque output in standard or comp @ 442.

Even the reviewers are confused some quoting the 479 figure others correctly quoting the 442 figure for both standard and comp.

The 479 number may well have come from discussions around a CS version which will have more torque as it did on the F8* compared to standard/comp.

[Mii]

Based on the prototype review, 19" front 275, 20" rear 285.
285 / 295 setup maybe an option on competition model?

The remaining questions:
- Does G8x generation come with CF drive shaft?
- Will G8x manual hit 3.1s 0-60, while 8-speed hit sub 2.9s given the current F90 M5 number already hit 3.1 on official number. M3 historically had faster time as compared to M5.

and last but not least

- Will BMW fix the first bug on the windshield from SHMEE's video @ 5:24?

[mango14]

Originally Posted by mbanck

No offense, but why do you get a track-focused car as a daily commuter? Of course BMW will try to optimize the engine for high-performance.

If you need low-end torque, get the Alpina B3, they specifically engineered the S58 to have loads of it (50NM more than the G80, to be precise).

For me, I love driving a manual transmission convertible.

[stein_325i]

Originally Posted by mango14

For me, I love driving a manual transmission convertible.

If you can afford it 911 vert is a very rewarding experience, and you don't lose too much over the coupe.

[weingarm]

Originally Posted by Mii

Based on the prototype review, 19" front 275, 20" rear 285.
285 / 295 setup maybe an option on competition model?

The remaining questions:
- Does G8x generation come with CF drive shaft?
- Will G8x manual hit 3.1s 0-60, while 8-speed hit sub 2.9s given the current F90 M5 number already hit 3.1 on official number. M3 historically had faster time as compared to M5.

and last but not least

- Will BMW fix the first bug on the windshield from SHMEE's video @ 5:24?

3.1 second 0-60 on the G80 M3 Pure (RWD 6MT) is way too optimistic.

For reference BMW published times:

X3M Base 0-60 time is 4.1 with 8sp auto
X3M Comp 0-60 time is 4.0 with 8sp auto
and
2020 M4 coupe 0-60 time is 4.1 with DCT and RWD (has 425hp)

So based on the above, G80 M3 Pure (RWD 6MT) only gains a few tenths on the X3M at most. Maybe 3.8 seconds? No way this is a 3.1 second car.

Remember, I'm talking BMW's published time which is always a couple tenths too conservative, but still not 3.1.

[adc]

You guys can thank me for the newfound ability to turn rev matching on and off at will. With all the surveys I received from BMWNA since 2015, I’ve asked the engineers for this feature.

I also asked them to provide a track pad option, but one out of two ain’t bad.

[stein_325i]

Originally Posted by adc

You guys can thank me for the newfound ability to turn rev matching on and off at will. With all the surveys I received from BMWNA since 2015, I’ve asked the engineers for this feature.

I also asked them to provide a track pad option, but one out of two ain’t bad.

They must not be reading my surveys, I've been asking for steering feel for the past 8-years now!