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      07-27-2019, 03:11 AM   #1
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How does the new M340i compare to my 440i?

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I am thinking about getting a M340, but have a few doubts. Maybe someone has taken the plunge and can help me with a few queries?

Power: does the M340 compare to the 440 with the mppsk? I have heard the exhaust which is a little more muted with valves open, but more interested in power/power delivery.

Interior: my current 440 is loaded with tech, but the revised interior/tech looks so much better. How are seats compared to the old ones? And how much is the HUD improved?

Suspension: I currently have the adaptive suspension, which I like a lot. Differences between comfort and sport are not massive but definately noticable. How are the suspensions on the M340? Should i get the adaptive again?

I am in europe, so the M340 will be the 374HP version and no performance exhaust kit will be available.

Thanks!

Oh, the M340 is not yet available for test drive here, so would have to wait another 2 months before I can do a test run. If I order now, I have the opportunity to get one of the first in the country and take one of the dealer allocations.
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      07-28-2019, 03:59 PM   #2
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I came from a 2-series so the only thing I can speak to is the difference between Sport/Comfort/Adaptive modes..

I got the adaptive suspension which I use 15ish% of the time just because it's there, but I don't notice any difference between it and comfort. The reality (from my perspective) is that if the adaptive mode changes based on your current second-to-second driving style, it's mostly in comfort mode unless you're flooring the car at 0.8+g constantly.

There's a giant difference between comfort and sport. It's literally like two different cars. Sport has two modes which can be configured/selected--sport and sport plus. The biggest difference is putting the transmission in sport plus mode instead of just sport, and definitely instead of comfort. The car is almost un-practically aggressive with the transmission in sport plus.

40% of the time I use comfort mode with auto-stop turned off.

30% of the time I use sport individual (comfort steering and plain-sport transmission)

20% i use adaptive

10% I use pure sport plus

If there were one option that I would undo it would be the adaptive suspension. I literally use it just because it's there.
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      07-28-2019, 04:30 PM   #3
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I got the adaptive suspension which I use 15ish% of the time just because it's there, but I don't notice any difference between it and comfort. The reality (from my perspective) is that if the adaptive mode changes based on your current second-to-second driving style, it's mostly in comfort mode unless you're flooring the car at 0.8+g constantly.

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If there were one option that I would undo it would be the adaptive suspension. I literally use it just because it's there.
You are using adaptive suspension 100% of the time, that is what it is. There isn't a passive mode. I assume you mean you don't see the benefit of the "Adaptive mode". You seem to prefer the Comfort or Sport 'adaptive suspension' modes.
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You are using adaptive suspension 100% of the time, that is what it is. There isn't a passive mode. I assume you mean you don't see the benefit of the "Adaptive mode". You seem to prefer the Comfort or Sport 'adaptive suspension' modes.
This. The comfort mode with adaptive suspension is softer than the standard suspension, and the sport mode is stiffer. The "adaptive mode" is something that is automatically added to the car when you have all the right options added (the big one being the adaptive suspension obviously). Given how much time you spend in comfort and adaptive modes, you are getting good use out of the suspension.
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      07-30-2019, 12:49 PM   #5
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When you have a 440i with powerkit, I wonder why you would be ready to pay an incredible amount of money to step into a very comparable vehicle which will be better for some aspects and probably a bit less for others.

And ... let's be honest, the 440i is a real looker and still entirely on top of its class. An M340i will be to less of an upgrade I'am afraid.
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      07-30-2019, 01:07 PM   #6
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You have a good point there. I would mainly do it for the latest tech and the fact that I would like to go back to 4 doors. Although I Really like the looks of the 4 coupe, the size of the doors is driving me nuts.

I am not very so seat is quite far forward, hence the door needs to open quite wide in order for me to get out.

Maybe a M2C would be an option but the interior and tech is so dated.
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Wide/long doors are indeed not practical.

But for the extra gizmo they added on the G20, I wouldn't mind a bit! The gesture control and the frustration it brings along? The graphical lcd instead of dails and loosing the instant readibility? Some semi-integrated smart services that work only half as good than the ones on your smartphone? A display key to impress your friends? Not for me... thank you.

F32 already had the usefull bits of technology like adaptive cruise control or even harman kardon audio when you're an audio fan. M2 comp is the better car when you seek for a more focussed track machine.

But really, a 440i mppk is not focussed enough on our roads where we drive? To me the 440i mppk is massive impressive dream car I would not easily let go. It ticks plenty of the boxes.
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Did you end up getting a M340?
I just changed from the 440 with the track handling.
The M340 seems a better ride overall but I don’t like the new headlights.
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I still haven't decided... love the tech on the M340 but the looks of the 4 series and the pops and bangs from the mppsk are still a winner. I am in Europe so the exhaust on the M340 would not be as loud as mine. And I don't think the m-performance would be available here.
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Did you end up getting a M340?
I just changed from the 440 with the track handling.
The M340 seems a better ride overall but I don’t like the new headlights.
Did you get the laser-lights?
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For what its worth I came from a FBO e93 335is dct.
And a f32 435 stage 2+ with Downpipe and MPE, Fully spec'd minus active cruise and blue brakes. (Which was faster than my friends mppk 440 coupe)

The 340 is night and day with tech, handling, for me performance and a nice fuel economy balance (not much difference for you tho)

I have zero regrets with my decision, I may come summer without my cabriolet, but otherwise nothing as of yet. It had bugs for a bit but once updated software was done everything has been fine, connected app works flawlessly, remote 3D, phone connections, etc etc.
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I just had a 2020 440i xdrive loaner against my m340i I was surprised by the highway wind noise and boring drive it was.
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I'm also in a 440i with MPPSK (RWD) plus adaptive suspension, in the UK.
I understand that there are no test drives available yet where you are but I wouldn't buy a new car without a thorough test myself.
From an engine perspective, I wouldn't expect the M340i to be much different - similar hp, same torque. Handling and steering should be better. The M340i is only available as xDrive in the UK, which would obviously make a big difference too if you're in RWD currently.
I've also heard that the M340i is quieter than MPPSK equipped cars - probably due to the new PPF, apart from anything else. I do like the sound of mine in Comfort, just right. You can hear what's going on mechanically - the B58 engine can be pretty silent without it, other than under very heavy acceleration.
I've seen the new interior in the showroom and yeh, it's nice - not worth spending £££ on however unless the rest of the package is equally compelling, imo.
So, I'd be patient for a few more months, and get a test
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BMW offers the same M sport performance exhaust option on the M340i, forget the numbers on paper. There's high probability the M340i will be faster regardless of spec sheet. The 1/4 miles times etc this car is running should tell you that much. Mine has stock exhaust and even in comfort it is noticeable.
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I haven't been in a mppsk but I can definitely say from the 340 to the M is like night and day in performance. Feels a second quicker in the quarter. When The wife notices a huge difference, something must be good
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The 440 with MPPSK and Track Handling package is Superior to the M340.
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The 440 ride feels more mechanical. You can peel out easily and the timing from gears 1 to 2 is longer. And the traction control in disabled mode, doesn’t interfere with your driving but it does offer some control.
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The new m340 feels too computerized and wven with DSC off, the traction control takes over too quick reducing your peel out fun.
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M340 is faster, no doubt about it. Recently returned MB c450, which outrun the 440. M340 dusts them all, with better interior and tech.
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M340 is faster, no doubt about it. Recently returned MB c450, which outrun the 440. M340 dusts them all, with better interior and tech.
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M340 is faster, no doubt about it. Recently returned MB c450, which outrun the 440. M340 dusts them all, with better interior and tech.
Regardless of mppsk?
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M340 is faster, no doubt about it. Recently returned MB c450, which outrun the 440. M340 dusts them all, with better interior and tech.
But he will miss the 440 lower profile which offers a better ride and at 4.4 seconds, its quick enough.
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Let's be honest. The G20 M340i is definitely an amazing upgrade from the F series in terms of driving feel, handling, and overall experience. But that being said the F series isn't bad by any means and as others have said is still a very respectable car, especially when well equipped. So I am afraid you are dealing with a great vs very great scenario, as am I. I think it would be foolish to trade in a perfectly fine F30/32 for the M340i if it was a costly move.

My play personally, is to try to put 100k+ miles on the 340i, and upgrade to the M340i after the facelift in the last two or so model years. I am not particularly keen on first model years anyway, or even pre facelift for that matter. It is the nature of engineering that initial releases more often than not can and are improved upon so to be restless on a move like that, unless you are absolutely fanatical about it for some reason, is money burning a hole in your pocket. Leases, extreme wealth, etc, can factor in of course.
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The 440 with MPPSK and Track Handling package is Superior to the M340.
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The new m340 feels too computerized and wven with DSC off, the traction control takes over too quick reducing your peel out fun.
No. The M340 will absolutely slaughter the older car from a handling perspective. It is just a much better balance car. The suspension is better. It has LSD! But is it worth the extra money? Probably not in his case.

With The traction control disabled this car will light the tires up in first gear, in the second gear, and also chirps tires in the second gear and third gear which I've never seen in an auto before (but that's OK because I hate them). Sport plus mode allows way more slip than in the F 30 BUT driver experience will vary
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