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I'm not saying I agree with expanding, and diluting the M brand, but they've decided to go in that direction, so go with it. Why not imbibe the m340i with a little more "M" instead of making it feel like a powerful 3 series? Why not make the selectable drive modes actually change the character of the car more? Instead they used a conservative approach and designed it to appeal to everyone from recent college grads to grandmothers. What you then end up with is a well rounded, sensible car with performance chops that's still a bit boring. Bmw is making cars that people buy after compiling a list of pros and cons, vs cars that draw you into dealerships out of curiosity and excitement. As much as I've never really got into MB, the c43 amg (as well as cls53, among a few other models) makes me want to schedule a test drive and if it lived up to expectations, I'd be more likely to make an emotional purchase. I'd leave the dealership excited. The m340i, while a great car, is more like the car your wife talks you into getting due to its comfort and fuel efficiency - and then further talks you down into the 330i (because who needs 382 hp anyway), and then you're stuck with a 4-pot snooze fest for 3 years or whatever. Thinking back to when I started paying attention to bmw, the e46 m3 was not sensible for the time. Neither was the e60 m5 with its high strung v10 engine. The e90 m3 didn't seem like a left brain decision either with its screaming v8. These days, even the M cars seem sort of like "M-by the numbers". They tick all the right boxes, perform well on the track, and they're plenty exciting, but somehow they don't exactly pull you into the dealership out of sheer curiosity and excitement. That's the general gist of how I see it. We get a modern bimmer because it's a nice car that checks the right boxes, but it's not necessarily the car that we're day dreaming about. Is that enough to place them at #1 and keep them there? Maybe, but there's still an enthusiast community out there who don't always make left-sided brain purchases when it comes to cars (even daily drivers). |
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I think this is a problem with the brand right now. I drive a 3 series because it's all I've driven since I was 21. I can afford any car BMW makes and none of them entice me to spend more money. Part of it is the cars try to please everyone now so there is no more strong emotionally connected driving cars that don't have corporate cost cutting in the interiors (2 and 3 series). They still make very good cars, but if was going to lease something say for 1000 bucks a month it's going to be another brand like a Porsche as an example. |
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The M2c is the only current BMW that I have any emotional draw to. I'm driving a G30 5 series and while it's excellent in so many areas, I'd be completely indifferent replacing it with an accord or civic. Sure, the 5 is better than those two cars, but I wouldn't miss it the way I miss my E90 328 6mt. My plan is to either replace the 530 in a year with an M2c, G80 M3, or go old school and get an E39 5 series. The current BMW lineup has some good cars, but the M2c is the only one good enough to justify the cost for me, I feel like the G30 was a waste of money...probably worth it as a 3 year old cpo though. Most cars these days are bland, but I agree, Porsche is bucking the trend of trying to appeal to everyone and a Cayman would be my next car if I didn't have to get a GT4 to get a flat 6 |
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I totally agree with the original poster that the 340 feels slower than the C43. I can't believe how slow the 340 feels. When I look at the times compared even to a C63s, it's not much slower at all 0-60, 0-100, 1/4 mile. But after driving a C63s and getting into the 340, it's just insane how slow it feels considering it's not actually far off in terms of speed.
I recently drove all 3 back to back.
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To me it did. Maybe it's just smoother? I know it's not slower. It just doesn't feel impressive to me.
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It's interesting that the C43 has been out since 2014 and still matches well with the all new M340i
Seems to me BMW will be in trouble when the all new C class comes out...
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I would expect that BMW will also make some significant updates to the M340 throughout its life to keep it competitive with a new C43. Or maybe I should say that I hope that happens, rather than I expect it to happen! |
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I am on my 12th BMW and I have looked at other brands to compare. Maybe I am biased but right now there is nothing out there that intices me to switch. I am on my fifth Seven series and am tired of driving a larger car and to be honest it's too comfortable. The new 3 feels like my first BMW, a 98 E39 and I am impressed with the car overall. I am not tracking the car and dont care for a manual or care of I can beat every other car in its class. I just want to enjoy the car for what it is and a few spirited drives when the mood hits me.
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I'm not being a troll. I said it's just as fast or faster when you look at the numbers. Just that it feels slow.
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I have no experience with either so I'm just going off comments on comparing the two
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Uh have you guys driven one? It's pretty frickin' sporty. Seems somewhat on par to prior gens of M3 but with more comfort. Just because a car doesn't beat you up doesn't mean it isn't a stellar handling car and sporting drive.
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Also, no, I haven't driven an m340i or c43, so I'm talking out of my ass to an extent. I shouldn't be asserting strong opinions about the driving experience regarding either car in this thread. |
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I drove the M2C at the M school and it was easily my favorite current BMW, and the most nimble M car IMO. It's the first choice after my current lease ends unless I get Porsche money.
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