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      11-15-2019, 09:02 AM   #1937
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I'm not confident the grilles/bumpers will be easy to swap out. Especially if they have active flaps like the G20. It at least sounds like it would be too expensive to be worth it.

That's literally the only thing holding me back from ditching my F32 for a G8x. I love most everything else and would plan on swapping aftermarket suspension/wheels/exhaust anyway.
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I'm not confident the grilles/bumpers will be easy to swap out. Especially if they have active flaps like the G20. It at least sounds like it would be too expensive to be worth it.

That's literally the only thing holding me back from ditching my F32 for a G8x. I love most everything else and would plan on swapping aftermarket suspension/wheels/exhaust anyway.
I think most, if not all, the latest M grills are fixed open, without active flaps. So with the G80 getting horizontal bars instead of vertical slats, I think the whole grill will be static and cheaper/easier to modify (if that's your thing).
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Does anyone know if there's going to be a large weight gain? I'm expecting some with the addition of awd to the M cars but hoping weight gain is 75-100 or less. Is that unlikely?
I would guess at 200kg minimum between AWD and RWD. Probably 100kg when comparing F80 against AWD G80
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I would guess at 200kg minimum between AWD and RWD. Probably 100kg when comparing F80 against AWD G80
That's what I was comparing was F80 vs incoming awd G80. 100kg wouldn't be a terrible weight gain but hoping for higher use of aluminum and CF to minimize weight gain. Otherwise it'll be darn near the size of the 8 series
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      11-15-2019, 10:40 AM   #1940
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      11-15-2019, 10:45 AM   #1941
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      11-15-2019, 10:49 AM   #1942
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Great, one more maintenance item to worry about.
Yea, but it's included in the 3-yr free maintenance plan!
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do i see that turn signal is now inserted in those drl lights? on right headlamp i dont see stripe on top for turn signal like on 8 series, and looking in left lamp, i think i am looking into drl turning to turn signal now? it looks like a copy cheap on e-bay
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That front wheel/fender gap is ridiculous on a performance sedan... Why do BMW keep doing that? Maybe their suspension lead owns shares at H&R and Eibach and makes money off of their sales?

I see aftermarket springs in my future, again!
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      11-16-2019, 12:04 AM   #1946
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That front wheel/fender gap is ridiculous on a performance sedan... Why do BMW keep doing that? Maybe their suspension lead owns shares at H&R and Eibach and makes money off of their sales?

I see aftermarket springs in my future, again!
Did you ever consider that the car is accelerating/under load when photographed?!?!?!? It's not parked.
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Did you ever consider that the car is accelerating/under load when photographed?!?!?!? It's not parked.
Yes maybe that added half an inch or so!
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      11-19-2019, 02:36 PM   #1948
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Not for me, that is the allure, 4doors, 5seats, large trunk, 6MT.

Everyone that comments on the size of the M3 sedan. BMW makes an M2 that is the almost the exact proportions of an E46 M3, if you object to the size of the M3 then that is the model to consider.
My e36 M3 had all that... 4 doors, 5 seats, 6MT, and a large trunk. At least, large enough for me.

The new M3 will be arguably twice as big, or at least feel like it. It's seems that it's as big or bigger than the e39 M5. Some people love compact 4 door sport sedans, which the Audi RS4 is, for example. Given that I want to stick with ///M cars from BMW, the fact that I'm limited to a huge M3 sedan (the smallest 4-door ///M sedan) is very disappointing.

If the M2 came in 4 doors, I would be all over it.
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      11-19-2019, 03:48 PM   #1949
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The new M3 will be arguably twice as big, or at least feel like it. It's seems that it's as big or bigger than the e39 M5. Some people love compact 4 door sport sedans, which the Audi RS4 is, for example. Given that I want to stick with ///M cars from BMW, the fact that I'm limited to a huge M3 sedan (the smallest 4-door ///M sedan) is very disappointing.
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I was at the BMW dealership and saw a new 435i. I thought it was really wide. So I started looking for the new M3 and M4 dimensions and comparing the numbers with the older M3s and old and new M5s.

If the numbers are correct, the new F8x Ms are now wider than both E39 and E60 M5s (measuring from center of the right tire to the center of the left tire). The new F8x Ms are wider and longer than the old E46 M3 yet they weight about the same. The bar chart gives a better visual.
















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My e36 M3 had all that... 4 doors, 5 seats, 6MT, and a large trunk. At least, large enough for me.
But would it pass today's safety and emission standards? No it wouldn't, so you couldn't just build it again as-is.

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The new M3 will be arguably twice as big, or at least feel like it. It's seems that it's as big or bigger than the e39 M5. Some people love compact 4 door sport sedans, which the Audi RS4 is, for example.
As far as I can tell from a quick google search, the current Audi RS4 is slightly longer than the G20 3er?

Also, "some people" seem to be around here a lot but are arguably a minuscule amount of people world-wide in order to warrant development of a completely new product just for them.
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      11-21-2019, 01:10 AM   #1951
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The grill on the G20 looks horribad and the car looks HUGE.

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The grill on the G20 looks horribad...
The 4 Series and M3/M4 grills will be a lot bigger . Embrace the biggggg.
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November update:

Per this interview, BMW M CEO confirms that G80 M3 / G82 M4 will come in auto, manual, AWD and RWD and that the manual version will be RWD-only.
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      11-22-2019, 01:15 PM   #1954
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Per this interview, BMW M CEO confirms that G80 M3 / G82 M4 will come in auto, manual, AWD and RWD and that the manual version will be RWD-only.
Wouldn't want it any other way
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Per this interview, BMW M CEO confirms that G80 M3 / G82 M4 will come in auto, manual, AWD and RWD and that the manual version will be RWD-only.
No problems with this at all, I just hope they don't nerf the 6MT too much (or at all)
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