[RSnic]

Ilyam5 ,

Well, I have been using a combination of the M340 Ordering & Pricing guides, coupled with the BMW North America on-line configurator for 330; the packages were what have been really confusing to me -- and that's where the on-line configurator helped some.

Anyhow, the on-line configurator for 330 has this Blue Ridge Mountain Metallic (in my view, a really nice light metallic bluish-green). While it's not listed for the M340, I know BMW has the Individual program for many different colors so I am including it with the Individual cost.

BTW, have what some may call a dumb question.

I am not sure whether to get 18" or 19" tires. Along those lines, other than the dimension, what is the difference in:

• Road handling
• Gas mileage
• Cornering
• Ability to handle occasional snow
• Overall performance

Appreciate any thoughts

Thanks

[Ilyam5]

Originally Posted by RSnic

Ilyam5 ,

Well, I have been using a combination of the M340 Ordering & Pricing guides, coupled with the BMW North America on-line configurator for 330; the packages were what have been really confusing to me -- and that's where the on-line configurator helped some.

Anyhow, the on-line configurator for 330 has this Blue Ridge Mountain Metallic (in my view, a really nice light metallic bluish-green). While it's not listed for the M340, I know BMW has the Individual program for many different colors so I am including it with the Individual cost.

BTW, have what some may call a dumb question.

I am not sure whether to get 18" or 19" tires. Along those lines, other than the dimension, what is the difference in:

• Road handling
• Gas mileage
• Cornering
• Ability to handle occasional snow
• Overall performance

Appreciate any thoughts

Thanks

it is a loaded question on tires and wheel size. Depending on what your goal is - the rule of thumb is usually - smallest wheel that will fit over your brakes. In this case 18 ". Get the lightest rims possible that maintain reasonable durability and cost. this will save unsprung weight on all 4 corners - which is the worst enemy in handling and performance.
Get the widest tires that will fit in the front without hitting wheel wells at full lock. Get the same for rear to achieve square set up to fight under steer and be able to rotate wheels.
Obviously get the highest performance tire in non run flat with proper aspect ratio to achieve the same diameter requited by manufacturer to maintain speed rating. (+- 5 is OK). fro 18s it is usually 40. 255/40/18 or 265/40/18 should fit
That is what i do for the track.

For the street - it is about looks sometimes - so people go for bigger wheels (heavy) and lower profile tires. it might look better but the ride quality suffers. lower profile tires will always feel more bumps and transmit more road imperfections.

[RSnic]

Ilyam5 ,

Wasn't trying to set anyone up, just trying to get some other thoughts.

My intuition from many years of driving is kind of what you laid out -- smaller diameter, but wider tread area

Again, very much appreciate your thoughts and that of others

[xlover]

Originally Posted by RSnic

Ilyam5 ,

Wasn't trying to set anyone up, just trying to get some other thoughts.

My intuition from many years of driving is kind of what you laid out -- smaller diameter, but wider tread area

Again, very much appreciate your thoughts and that of others

the 19s are the better looking option in my opinion, you will get mixed opinions on feel 18s are lighter but some like the feel of the shorter sidewalls on 19s. It's personal taste.

However,

Depending on your plan for snow you might want the all seasons. If you get any of the performance tire options they are absolutely not for use in any snow or ice conditions. Most will tell you to not even use below freezing.

Personally on my current 440 I ordered 19s with performance tires so I could get the staggered width (wider rear, they look the best, factory all seasons only come in square size with the narrower rear tires) and then swapped the tires for a set of pilot sport a/s 3+ all seasons on day 1.

Others will tell you get dedicated winter wheels and tires and all seasons are not preferable in snow. The only thing everyone will agree on is xdrive or no don't drive performance tires in snow.

[Ilyam5]

Anyone have any idea why BMW left those packages non standard and at 0 cost on M340? I believe it is first time:

- 2VF - Adaptive M suspension and
- 316 - Power tailgate



My only thought is - for those customers who are planning on tracking the car and choosing to save weight/complexity.
Arguably regular suspension is more robust/bullet proof (like in M2) for regular track duty.

I can't imagine trunk button saving any weight though.... So you loose kick open and button close lock? for the regular sedan trunk it is not a big deal - it is a light trunk, not like hatch or Grand Coupe.

[Dog Face Pony Soldier]

Originally Posted by Ilyam5

Anyone have any idea why BMW left those packages non standard and at 0 cost on M340? I believe it is first time:

- 2VF - Adaptive M suspension and
- 316 - Power tailgate



My only thought is - for those customers who are planning on tracking the car and choosing to save weight/complexity.
Arguably regular suspension is more robust/bullet proof (like in M2) for regular track duty.

I can't imagine trunk button saving any weight though.... So you loose kick open and button close lock? for the regular sedan trunk it is not a big deal - it is a light trunk, not like hatch or Grand Coupe.

Power tailgate is more than a button. It has a motor that closes the trunk.

That being said... I find it hard to believe this is a move made for track rats. It is super odd though.

[daveshan]

Originally Posted by Jason340Msport

ZPX is the Executive package. ZPP is Premium package. Executive package includes the Parking Assistance package

I've seen this mentioned by 2 posters, but I don't see it anywhere in BMW's documentation. It looks like ZPX Executive Package includes 5DN Parking Assistance Plus, but I don't see anywhere that it also includes ZX1 and ZX3.

So how are we able to get ZPX AND those two options?

[RPM1123]

Originally Posted by daveshan

I've seen this mentioned by 2 posters, but I don't see it anywhere in BMW's documentation. It looks like ZPX Executive Package includes 5DN Parking Assistance Plus, but I don't see anywhere that it also includes ZX1 and ZX3.

So how are we able to get ZPX AND those two options?

I'm hoping it's a mistake with the M340i order guide. If you look at the 330i order guide ZX1 and ZX3 are listed as contents of the executive package, while they are not on the M340i guide.

[Kenny C]

I noticed the same thing. When you chose the Executive Package it removes the Parking Assistance Package and removes $900 from the price. It must include ZX1 and ZX3.

[havenyoung]

Originally Posted by daveshan

I've seen this mentioned by 2 posters, but I don't see it anywhere in BMW's documentation. It looks like ZPX Executive Package includes 5DN Parking Assistance Plus, but I don't see anywhere that it also includes ZX1 and ZX3.

So how are we able to get ZPX AND those two options?

It could be a mistake. Because for 330i, ZPX does include the whole content of ZPK(5DN/ZX1/ZX3). And M340i ZPX is listed with the same price $2100.

[Ilyam5]

Exactly. 330 and 340 exac packs are the same. It is a typo in ordering guide. Makes one question what else they screwed up

[daveshan]

Thanks for the clarifications on ZX1/ZX3. It sure does seem like an error in the ordering guide. My salesperson is already looking into this, and I'll report back if he learns anything new/useful.

[RSnic]

Ilyam5 daveshan ,

Here's the flip side of this same discussion:

• ZPK Parking Assistance Package contains:
  • 5DN Parking assistant
  • ZX1 Active park distance control
  • ZX3 Surround view w/3D
• ZPX Executive Package contains:
  • 5AC Auto high beams
  • 5DN (yup same as in ZPK)
  • 5AZ BMW laserlights
  • 6UB Gesture control

When you look at the packages on the BMW North America configurator the 330, it sure looks like ZPK is included in ZPX, AND when you see note in the ordering guide, "ZPK can not be ordered with ZPX." you have to ask the same question a little differently -- how do you get 5AC auto high beams, 6UB gesture controls & 5AZ laser lights if you order ZPK??

[daveshan]

So, here's my "draft" build, pretty much straight from the VIR. I welcome any thoughts or pointing out any misses on my part. Several specific questions:

1. What is 5AP Decoding for no-dazzle high-beam assistance?
2. What is ZTM Tier 2?
3. In post #65, 4UR Ambient Lighting was included in ZPX, as opposed to separate $250 option. Why is that?

Model Code: 203Z M340i xDrive Sedan $56,000
Color: B39 Mineral Grey Metallic $550
Upholstery: MAH7 Black Vernasca Leather w/contrast stitch/piping $1450

Options:
ZDA Driving Assistance Package $500
- 5AU† Active Driving Assistant Pro N/C
- ZN1 Active Blind Spot Detection
- ZN4 Lane Departure Warning
ZDY Driving Assistance Professional Package $1700
- 5AR Extended Traffic Jam Assistant for limited access highways
ZPP Premium Package $1400
- 248 Heated Steering Wheel
- 4HA Front and Rear Heated Seats $350
- 610 Head-up Display
ZPX Executive Package $2100
- 5AC Automatic High Beams
- 5AZ BMW Laserlight
- 5DN Parking Assistant Plus
- 6U8 Gesture Control
1CR Remote Engine Start $300
2VF Adaptive M Suspension N/C
300 Space-saver spare N/C
316 Power tailgate N/C
4KA Fine-wood trim oak grain open-pored N/C
4UR Ambient Lighting $250
5AP Decoding for no-dazzle high-beam assistance N/C
688 Harman Kardon surround sound system $875
6NW Wireless Charging $500
6WD WiFi Hotspot N/C
840 Increased top speed limiter N/C
925 Shipping package N/C
ZTM Tier 2 N/C

Net Total $65,975

[RSnic]

daveshan ,

Regarding Ambient lighting, you can get it either of two ways:

• Ordering Vernasca Leather
• Ordering separately

This probably allows either seat type to have it and makes it look like BMW is "saving" you money if you for leather??

[DocB]

My build - first draft.

M340 X-Drive

C36 - Dravit Grey Metallic
MAPQ Cognac Leather
Fine-Wood Trim Oak Grain Open-Pored
ZPP - Premium Package
ZPX - Executive Package
ZDA - Drivers Assistance Package
1PL - 19” Jet-Black Wheels with performance rft.
248 - Heated Steering Wheel
688 - Harmon Kardon Surround Sound
2VF - Adaptive M Suspension
316 - Power Tailgate
Black Kidney Grill

I believe 4UR Ambient Lighting is included in one of the above packages and does not need to be ordered separately.

[RSnic]

DocB ,

Nice!

Believe that 248 Heated Steering Wheel is included in ZPP Premium package

[Pliny Junior]

From the 2020 M340i pricing guide .. ordering "Vernasca Leather and not ZPX will add 4UR to the order" at no additional charge. Therefore, adding Vernasca Leather and ZPX means you can add 4UR for $250?

[Ilyam5]

Rsnic

I think you are simply justifying BMW screw ups. Ordering guide for 330 clearly states all the parking package items separately under the executive package. On x5 tall items are separate as well. So it is not the same

It is a mistake on BMW side. And it is not the only one

330 xi is stated not to be available with track pack. Not so. I have a local car at the dealer 330xi with track pack at 62k

Configurator for 330 is messed. It does not allow combining assist and assist pro. Plus on 330xi it lets you choose non runflat wheels and adds track pack with no indication of it.
On summary it does not show adaptive suspension even though it is included
List goes on

[Ilyam5]

Originally Posted by Pliny Junior

From the 2020 M340i pricing guide .. ordering "Vernasca Leather and not ZPX will add 4UR to the order" at no additional charge. Therefore, adding Vernasca Leather and ZPX means you can add 4UR for $250?

563 is ambient lighting as well and it is a standard feature.

[RSnic]

Ilyam5 ,

Not all trying to justify BMW's screw ups, rather just trying to work my way through the morass that BMW has created with this FUBAR'd situation between the on-line configurator and the pricing & ordering guides.

Glad to hear that you can order several of these "package component" options independently -- because given my druthers I'd go for the ZPK Parking package over ZPX if I can order 5AC auto high beams, 6UB Gesture control & 5AZ laserlights separately -- and allow me to get all-season non-RFT tires and get 840 speed delimiter.

Believe it or not, my local dealer still hasn't gotten any information on the M340s -- even gave him copies of the ordering & pricing guides.

Oh well, just want an allocation so I can set up an ED

[txx3ddq442]

Originally Posted by Pliny Junior

From the 2020 M340i pricing guide .. ordering "Vernasca Leather and not ZPX will add 4UR to the order" at no additional charge. Therefore, adding Vernasca Leather and ZPX means you can add 4UR for $250?

The part in quotes is all I see on the ordering guide. Nothing says it will be no additional charge. I ordered mine with Vernasca Leather (MANL) and no ZPX. I asked for 4UR (it may well have been auto-added if I didn't ask) and it gets its own line item on the vehicle inquiry report with a $250 price.

Oh, btw... mine went into production today!