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Marquardt: BMW “Very Likely” to Go With M4 for Next GT3 Car
Featured on BIMMERPOST.com He comments about a successor to the current M4 GT4 as well, adding that it could also be based on the new M4, or they could switch to the M2. https://sportscar365.com/industry/ma...-next-gt3-car/ Quote:
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Yes... the M8 has not done well in IMSA or the European Lemans series.
Calvin Fish actually stated on air the M8 will be replaced by the M4 in the GTLM class... I can't wait to see what it looks like 😍 The M8 is just too big! I'm a BMW loyalist, but I must say it's my least favorite. |
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makes sense. Its the right size, might yield some great results. Agree with others M8 seems to large.
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Even BMW thinks their M cars are getting too big and heavy!
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Fast forward to today, and they've had a chance to prove out the S55 in the F82 M4 GT4. Although they're now faced with yet another new engine, the S58, it has no doubt been designed with lessons learned from the S55, so it is perhaps as much an evolution of the S55 as it is a high performance version of the B58. That would mean there is the potential for three distinct G82 M4 factory race cars - GT4, GT3 (/GTD), and GTLM. |
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So did he just confirm the next gen M2 will get the S58 from the start?
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That said, I think it is very reasonable that the G87 M2 and M2 Competition could both use the S58. |
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That said M4 really ought to have a racing counterpart so an M8 GTE and M4 GT3 and M2 GT4 makes perfect sense from a marketing sense. Big expensive car fastest class. M4 in the middle and GT4 With the M2. M6 behind the scenes was a very complicated and expensive GT3 car and in a competitive world of GT3 it wasn't going to outsell the Mercedes or Lambo offering. |
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The rules only specify that the engine be for sale on a car in the li line up so an M2 GT4 could use an S63 if they wanted and they could throw a B48 in the M2. It make sense to use the M4 engine, the M2 vanilla was sort of an afterthought quick solution rather than planned. Since M2 has been ultra popular they hopefully will have a proper engine from the get go. I'd really like to see their new high revving 4 cylinder with 500 hp and 40k mike shelf life personally. Would be unique and fun and good for the M2 to not be a fat small M4 next generation. |
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I have a feeling that BMW will design the next GT car to more easily switch between GT3 and GTE regulations the way Ferrari and Aston Martin currently do it. I would love to see the return of the M4/M3 as BMW's top tier GT racecar. I think the M8 is too large a car and it was a mistake for them to go with this platform to begin with.
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I believe the dimensions of the M8 are only carry a potential aero consequence but that could be good or bad. The weight is inconsequential because they're regulated by balance of power per the series rules. BMW advertises it as only weighing 2700lbs which compared to the street version is like losing a whole other car! Their results have been up and down with this car, especially in IMSA but I don't think it's the car's fault per se. The competition in this category is extremely tough! Around the same time as this being released you had an extremely dominant C7.r fully supported by Chevrolet with focus on winning in America and LeMans. Ford released the GT in 2016 for racing with their full weight behind 2 U.S. cars and 2 international cars. Porsche woke up and updated the RSR in 2016 and it was no slouch. Just those 3 competitors with 2 cars each in any given race makes it very difficult for BMW to dominate a series. The M6 was a turd admittedly and couldn't follow up the success of the Z4 GT3/4 chassis but again, Ford GT350 GT4/Cayman GT4/AMG GT3-4/R8 GT3-4/Huracan GT3-4 were all VERY good competitors. The M4 GT4 has seen a lot of success in privateer racing both internationally and here in North America but it's not front and center like the big GT cars.
I feel like Sports Car racing in general has become more popular than it was and manufacturers are throwing more money behind it than they have in the past because of a unified North American series in IMSA with televised events and SRO/PWC providing an excellent platform for customer racing around the world. It's getting harder for BMW to put out a good chassis because the competition is so good.
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I forgot about the drivers! We lost Dirk Muller and Joey Hand who both went to Ford and won a lot and Dane Cameron had a short stint with TMS then jumped ship for LMP1 and has been very competitive. It's been rough to be a BMW racing fan in America the last few years lol.
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