Bimmerpost
3
/
4 Series
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
2019+ BMW 3 AND 4-SERIES FORUMS (G2x Generation) General G20 Sedan / G22 Coupe / G26 Gran Coupe Discussions Doug Demuro reviews 2019 330i G20

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      02-26-2019, 04:20 PM   #67
530iDriver
Colonel
530iDriver's Avatar
United_States
1708
Rep
2,539
Posts

Drives: 2017 BMW 530i
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Florida

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pic18 View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mo@BMWofFairfax View Post
I don't understand. If the market demands a product, why would a company not supply that product? That's like saying Apple will intentionally sell less iPhones on purpose to people because they're going to lower production. I'm confused.

The auto does also come with benefits for MPG figures, so I can see why they'd want to lower manual transmissions. You also can't have an autonomous manual car. With this big push for autonomy and the like, I can somewhat see why they'd lower the production on the manual transmission.
I think you missed the point where I stated the Auto Industry often drives the market, not the consumer (at least at first). The proliferation of 4 door coupes is a great example. There was no actual need for a sedan with a slopping roof, as beyond style there is limited to no benefit over a comparable sedan. But one ambitious auto maker tried to give it a shot as an attempt to cut a niche into the pie and take customers away from another. The customer didn't exactly demand or ask for it (at first), but once available they bought it and other company's jumped on board and as supply increased so did demand. So yes in the end the market has made a case for "grand Coupes", and a manufacturer would be stupid not to make one, but the initial demand/supply was driven by the industry and not from customers.
That may be it, but the whole four door coupe concept could have also been born out of consumer focus groups in an effort to re-invent the somewhat practical but stale 3-Box sedan design.

I agree akin to re-inventing the wheel. But we have seen the same silliness in coupe shaped SUVs like the X6.
__________________
2017 BMW 530i, Sport Line,Alpine White, Canberra Beige Sensatec, 19 inch V-Spoke wheels, basic plain Jane build with no options whatsoever..... "Less is more".

Before: 2011 BMW 328i E90 sedan, Platinum Bronze Metallic, Dakota Brown leather, 17 inch wheels, 6-speed auto, N52 6 Cyl inline N/A goodness....
Appreciate 1
Pic18303.50
      02-26-2019, 04:27 PM   #68
wfdeacon88
Major
1103
Rep
1,389
Posts

Drives: E90 M3
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Triad, NC

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Germanauto View Post
Really mediocre "review." He didn't discuss anything of substance from an enthusiast's perspective.

If you're a tech zombie then sure, watch it.
it's not an enthusiast car though.. it's a slow grocery getter
Appreciate 1
MT4life575.50
      02-26-2019, 04:29 PM   #69
530iDriver
Colonel
530iDriver's Avatar
United_States
1708
Rep
2,539
Posts

Drives: 2017 BMW 530i
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Florida

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by wfdeacon88 View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Germanauto View Post
Really mediocre "review." He didn't discuss anything of substance from an enthusiast's perspective.

If you're a tech zombie then sure, watch it.
it's not an enthusiast car though.. it's slow
People crack me up when they claim a 5-5.4 sec car is "slow". I mean really?
__________________
2017 BMW 530i, Sport Line,Alpine White, Canberra Beige Sensatec, 19 inch V-Spoke wheels, basic plain Jane build with no options whatsoever..... "Less is more".

Before: 2011 BMW 328i E90 sedan, Platinum Bronze Metallic, Dakota Brown leather, 17 inch wheels, 6-speed auto, N52 6 Cyl inline N/A goodness....
Appreciate 5
      02-26-2019, 04:32 PM   #70
wfdeacon88
Major
1103
Rep
1,389
Posts

Drives: E90 M3
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Triad, NC

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by 530iDriver View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by wfdeacon88 View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Germanauto View Post
Really mediocre "review." He didn't discuss anything of substance from an enthusiast's perspective.

If you're a tech zombie then sure, watch it.
it's not an enthusiast car though.. it's slow
People crack me up when they claim a 5-5.4 sec car is "slow". I mean really?
I don't understand why anyone would ever get a new base engine 3 or 5 series when a lightly used M car is near the same price... but, people have different things they care about which I understand..
Appreciate 0
      02-26-2019, 04:34 PM   #71
530iDriver
Colonel
530iDriver's Avatar
United_States
1708
Rep
2,539
Posts

Drives: 2017 BMW 530i
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Florida

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by wfdeacon88 View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Germanauto View Post
Really mediocre "review." He didn't discuss anything of substance from an enthusiast's perspective.

If you're a tech zombie then sure, watch it.
it's not an enthusiast car though.. it's a slow grocery getter
That's a nice grocery getter. Perhaps speed demons need sub 2 second 0-60 and 10 sec quarter mile rockets to get their groceries.

Back in 1988, the year you would probably be born, a BMW M5 was a 6 sec 0-60 car. That was considered to be a F-16 in those days.

8-10 seconds to 60 was considered "fast" and most German cars of the day fell in that bucket.
__________________
2017 BMW 530i, Sport Line,Alpine White, Canberra Beige Sensatec, 19 inch V-Spoke wheels, basic plain Jane build with no options whatsoever..... "Less is more".

Before: 2011 BMW 328i E90 sedan, Platinum Bronze Metallic, Dakota Brown leather, 17 inch wheels, 6-speed auto, N52 6 Cyl inline N/A goodness....
Appreciate 0
      02-26-2019, 04:39 PM   #72
530iDriver
Colonel
530iDriver's Avatar
United_States
1708
Rep
2,539
Posts

Drives: 2017 BMW 530i
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Florida

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by wfdeacon88 View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by 530iDriver View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by wfdeacon88 View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Germanauto View Post
Really mediocre "review." He didn't discuss anything of substance from an enthusiast's perspective.

If you're a tech zombie then sure, watch it.
it's not an enthusiast car though.. it's slow
People crack me up when they claim a 5-5.4 sec car is "slow". I mean really?
I don't understand why anyone would ever get a new base engine 3 or 5 series when a lightly used M car is near the same price... but, people have different things they care about which I understand..
Because I can afford a M5 but don't want one and have better uses to the extra $60K that would cost me to get behind the wheel of one.

I much rather live debt free and retire earlier and "younger" lol.

My "Base" 5er is plenty fast for me. Is smooth vault quiet and glides down the road like a luxury car should. Eats the miles effortlessly while returning excellent mileage while in complete comfort.

I am pretty happy. How about you?
__________________
2017 BMW 530i, Sport Line,Alpine White, Canberra Beige Sensatec, 19 inch V-Spoke wheels, basic plain Jane build with no options whatsoever..... "Less is more".

Before: 2011 BMW 328i E90 sedan, Platinum Bronze Metallic, Dakota Brown leather, 17 inch wheels, 6-speed auto, N52 6 Cyl inline N/A goodness....
Appreciate 3
      02-26-2019, 04:40 PM   #73
The Automotive Enthusiast
Retired BMW Genius
The Automotive Enthusiast's Avatar
United_States
2888
Rep
3,404
Posts

Drives: 2018 Audi S5 Coupe
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: DMV

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by rjd598 View Post
if you don't understand what you're talking about then you should refrain from speaking publicly on a forum where you will embarrass yourself. unless you like public humiliation and if hiding behind a screen makes you feel safe then more power to you. this is directed at the people who don't have business sense, but make those comments.

the main issue on these forums for MANY years has been that people don't realize this forum makes up a SMALL FRACTION of bmw buyers. you want lightweight cars, but the rest of the people who want these cars for whatever reason actually don't care about anything we want. hence why we have this wonderful forum. no one wants a manual. would you offer a product if only 1% of your customer base wants that specific product? it is actually basic business sense ahhaha the 1% is an example, but you get my point.
I'm pretty sure there were focus groups before the four door coupe thing came to be. Great alternative to the hatchback/wagon without actually being a hatchback/wagon.

Enthusiast forums generally make up a very small percentage of the population. They do research to make sure the market will accept the model before it is released.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by LucBroDude View Post
TRAITOR.
Quote:
Originally Posted by LucBroDude View Post
TRAITOR.

Last edited by The Automotive Enthusiast; 02-26-2019 at 04:48 PM..
Appreciate 2
530iDriver1707.50
rjd5981769.50
      02-26-2019, 04:40 PM   #74
hans007
Major
605
Rep
1,077
Posts

Drives: 2020 BMW M340i
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Los Angeles, CA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by wfdeacon88 View Post
I don't understand why anyone would ever get a new base engine 3 or 5 series when a lightly used M car is near the same price... but, people have different things they care about which I understand..
wait so you basically just said I don't understand why then right after that say, they have different things they care about which I understand.

But yes, after you get enough performance people want other things like fuel economy, comfort, newer tech, cheaper maintenance etc. I also eat side dishes when I'm at a bbq restaurant after I've had enough meat.
Appreciate 1
530iDriver1707.50
      02-26-2019, 04:42 PM   #75
530iDriver
Colonel
530iDriver's Avatar
United_States
1708
Rep
2,539
Posts

Drives: 2017 BMW 530i
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Florida

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by wfdeacon88 View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by 530iDriver View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by wfdeacon88 View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Germanauto View Post
Really mediocre "review." He didn't discuss anything of substance from an enthusiast's perspective.

If you're a tech zombie then sure, watch it.
it's not an enthusiast car though.. it's slow
People crack me up when they claim a 5-5.4 sec car is "slow". I mean really?
I don't understand why anyone would ever get a new base engine 3 or 5 series when a lightly used M car is near the same price... but, people have different things they care about which I understand..
Show me a "lightly used" F90 M5 for $50K and I'll go and get me two, please!
__________________
2017 BMW 530i, Sport Line,Alpine White, Canberra Beige Sensatec, 19 inch V-Spoke wheels, basic plain Jane build with no options whatsoever..... "Less is more".

Before: 2011 BMW 328i E90 sedan, Platinum Bronze Metallic, Dakota Brown leather, 17 inch wheels, 6-speed auto, N52 6 Cyl inline N/A goodness....
Appreciate 0
      02-26-2019, 04:45 PM   #76
530iDriver
Colonel
530iDriver's Avatar
United_States
1708
Rep
2,539
Posts

Drives: 2017 BMW 530i
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Florida

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by hans007 View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by wfdeacon88 View Post
I don't understand why anyone would ever get a new base engine 3 or 5 series when a lightly used M car is near the same price... but, people have different things they care about which I understand..
wait so you basically just said I don't understand why then right after that say, they have different things they care about which I understand.

But yes, after you get enough performance people want other things like fuel economy, comfort, newer tech, cheaper maintenance etc. I also eat side dishes when I'm at a bbq restaurant after I've had enough meat.
It's ok, it is the epidemic of this country.

People love to spend money that is not theirs and buy things they can't afford. But hey there is always low wage employment for 70-80 year olds at your nearest Walmart! You only live once, right?
__________________
2017 BMW 530i, Sport Line,Alpine White, Canberra Beige Sensatec, 19 inch V-Spoke wheels, basic plain Jane build with no options whatsoever..... "Less is more".

Before: 2011 BMW 328i E90 sedan, Platinum Bronze Metallic, Dakota Brown leather, 17 inch wheels, 6-speed auto, N52 6 Cyl inline N/A goodness....
Appreciate 2
      02-26-2019, 04:48 PM   #77
The Automotive Enthusiast
Retired BMW Genius
The Automotive Enthusiast's Avatar
United_States
2888
Rep
3,404
Posts

Drives: 2018 Audi S5 Coupe
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: DMV

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by 530iDriver View Post
People crack me up when they claim a 5-5.4 sec car is "slow". I mean really?
The newest sport sedan's are pretty quick. Not too long ago, it took like second 6.5 seconds for these cars to get to 60. The M340 has almost 400hp and gets to 60 close to what the e92 M3 use to do it in.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by LucBroDude View Post
TRAITOR.
Quote:
Originally Posted by LucBroDude View Post
TRAITOR.
Appreciate 2
530iDriver1707.50
hans007604.50
      02-26-2019, 04:49 PM   #78
Germanauto
Major General
Germanauto's Avatar
United_States
9666
Rep
6,075
Posts

Drives: Alfa Romeo Giulia, Rosso
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: LA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by wfdeacon88 View Post
it's not an enthusiast car though.. it's a slow grocery getter
?

It's fast enough to have fun with. BMW has always been about cornering, handling, and steering feedback more than pure speed.
Appreciate 1
530iDriver1707.50
      02-26-2019, 04:51 PM   #79
530iDriver
Colonel
530iDriver's Avatar
United_States
1708
Rep
2,539
Posts

Drives: 2017 BMW 530i
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Florida

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Germanauto View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by wfdeacon88 View Post
it's not an enthusiast car though.. it's a slow grocery getter
?

It's fast enough to have fun with. BMW has always been about cornering, handling, and steering feedback more than pure speed.
Anyone below the age of 35 would experience a rude awakening behind the wheel of an E30 or similar "iconic" BMW.
__________________
2017 BMW 530i, Sport Line,Alpine White, Canberra Beige Sensatec, 19 inch V-Spoke wheels, basic plain Jane build with no options whatsoever..... "Less is more".

Before: 2011 BMW 328i E90 sedan, Platinum Bronze Metallic, Dakota Brown leather, 17 inch wheels, 6-speed auto, N52 6 Cyl inline N/A goodness....
Appreciate 0
      02-26-2019, 04:52 PM   #80
530iDriver
Colonel
530iDriver's Avatar
United_States
1708
Rep
2,539
Posts

Drives: 2017 BMW 530i
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Florida

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mo@BMWofFairfax View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by 530iDriver View Post
People crack me up when they claim a 5-5.4 sec car is "slow". I mean really?
The newest sport sedan's are pretty quick. Not too long ago, it took like second 6.5 seconds for these cars to get to 60. The M340 has almost 400hp and gets to 60 close to what the e92 M3 use to do it in.
And with 3 and 4 cyl engines nonetheless. Oh the blasphemy!
__________________
2017 BMW 530i, Sport Line,Alpine White, Canberra Beige Sensatec, 19 inch V-Spoke wheels, basic plain Jane build with no options whatsoever..... "Less is more".

Before: 2011 BMW 328i E90 sedan, Platinum Bronze Metallic, Dakota Brown leather, 17 inch wheels, 6-speed auto, N52 6 Cyl inline N/A goodness....
Appreciate 0
      02-26-2019, 04:55 PM   #81
530iDriver
Colonel
530iDriver's Avatar
United_States
1708
Rep
2,539
Posts

Drives: 2017 BMW 530i
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Florida

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Germanauto View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by wfdeacon88 View Post
it's not an enthusiast car though.. it's a slow grocery getter
?

It's fast enough to have fun with. BMW has always been about cornering, handling, and steering feedback more than pure speed.
Let's be honest. In our traffic congested US major cities, any car above 250-300HP is just wasted power and fuel consumption.

You would have to either track your 382HP M340i to truly appreciate its power or drive though the middle of Nevada in the loneliest road in the continental United States..
__________________
2017 BMW 530i, Sport Line,Alpine White, Canberra Beige Sensatec, 19 inch V-Spoke wheels, basic plain Jane build with no options whatsoever..... "Less is more".

Before: 2011 BMW 328i E90 sedan, Platinum Bronze Metallic, Dakota Brown leather, 17 inch wheels, 6-speed auto, N52 6 Cyl inline N/A goodness....
Appreciate 1
Germanauto9665.50
      02-26-2019, 04:57 PM   #82
530iDriver
Colonel
530iDriver's Avatar
United_States
1708
Rep
2,539
Posts

Drives: 2017 BMW 530i
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Florida

iTrader: (0)

Some perspective...

__________________
2017 BMW 530i, Sport Line,Alpine White, Canberra Beige Sensatec, 19 inch V-Spoke wheels, basic plain Jane build with no options whatsoever..... "Less is more".

Before: 2011 BMW 328i E90 sedan, Platinum Bronze Metallic, Dakota Brown leather, 17 inch wheels, 6-speed auto, N52 6 Cyl inline N/A goodness....
Appreciate 1
apascutia172.50
      02-26-2019, 05:00 PM   #83
rjd598
Banned
United_States
1770
Rep
6,696
Posts

Drives: F30 340i
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: San Diego,CA

iTrader: (2)

Garage List
2016 BMW 340i  [0.00]
this is the dumbest comparison and grading i've ever seen...

i still cannot understand how he has that many subscribers
Attached Images
 
Appreciate 1
Germanauto9665.50
      02-26-2019, 05:06 PM   #84
The Automotive Enthusiast
Retired BMW Genius
The Automotive Enthusiast's Avatar
United_States
2888
Rep
3,404
Posts

Drives: 2018 Audi S5 Coupe
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: DMV

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by rjd598 View Post
this is the dumbest comparison and grading i've ever seen...

i still cannot understand how he has that many subscribers
Just nod your head and smile. I don't try to understand how his scoring system works. I personally think he just throws out random numbers for each category.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by LucBroDude View Post
TRAITOR.
Quote:
Originally Posted by LucBroDude View Post
TRAITOR.
Appreciate 0
      02-26-2019, 05:08 PM   #85
The Automotive Enthusiast
Retired BMW Genius
The Automotive Enthusiast's Avatar
United_States
2888
Rep
3,404
Posts

Drives: 2018 Audi S5 Coupe
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: DMV

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by 530iDriver View Post
I have more faith in BMW keeping very close tabs on their production and product quality standards on their network plants around the world than anything coming out of the Volkswagen Group, VAG seems to struggle maintaining standards between plants.

Lest not forget that BMW's first overseas plant was opened in 1973 in Pretoria, South Africa. Plant Rosslyn has one of the highest quality ratings among all plants in the BMW Group network. They produced the 3-Series for 4 decades until 2018 when production switched to the X3.

My late E90 was made in South Africa and its build quality, assembly and attention to detail were impeccable. You could not tell that car had in fact being assembled in a facility near Johannesburg.

Time will tell if the standards will be similar from G20s coming out of the San Luis Potosí BMW plant in Mexico. I am confident that product quality will be just as good as any other BMW manufactured in German soil or elsewhere.
You can't compare BMW and VAG. VAG is a behemoth compared to BMW.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by LucBroDude View Post
TRAITOR.
Quote:
Originally Posted by LucBroDude View Post
TRAITOR.
Appreciate 1
530iDriver1707.50
      02-26-2019, 05:12 PM   #86
The Automotive Enthusiast
Retired BMW Genius
The Automotive Enthusiast's Avatar
United_States
2888
Rep
3,404
Posts

Drives: 2018 Audi S5 Coupe
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: DMV

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by 530iDriver View Post
It's ok, it is the epidemic of this country.

People love to spend money that is not theirs and buy things they can't afford. But hey there is always low wage employment for 70-80 year olds at your nearest Walmart! You only live once, right?
Welcome to Capitalism. That's why the United States has been *successful* for so long. I wish they'd teach us to think outside the box and start our own business and how to manage money (investing and the like) and what a Roth IRA is when we're in school instead of telling us to learn a subject, get degree and climb the corporate ladder to MAYBE, JUST MAYBE make enough to live a life where I owe a mortgage, a car note, and CC bills.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by LucBroDude View Post
TRAITOR.
Quote:
Originally Posted by LucBroDude View Post
TRAITOR.
Appreciate 2
530iDriver1707.50
rjd5981769.50
      02-26-2019, 05:32 PM   #87
tetsuo111
Save the Manuals!
tetsuo111's Avatar
United_States
1224
Rep
1,239
Posts

Drives: E91 RWD 6MT, X3, Ducati S4R
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: PNW

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mo@BMWofFairfax View Post
BMW is a business. Businesses need to make money. It's that simple. BMW has to keep shareholders are happy. What makes share holders happy? Money. We go full circle. It's not about what you drive, it's about fully thinking through what you're saying.

Companies like Apple and (formerly) BMW seized market share and became segment leaders precisely because they supplied forward-thinking and innovative products that the mass market hadn't yet imagined. Consider Mac, iPod, iPhone. Consider the early M3s / M5s. Compared with their peers of the day, these products were revolutionary, re-defining the products in the segment, that anyone including non-enthusiasts, could plainly see.

Without being rude, your strategy is a prime reason for BMW becoming irrelevant for many enthusiasts. If I want a mass-market car, I would (in the past) buy a Chevy or Toyota. Today, if I were shopping for an appliance car, I would look first at the Japanese and Korean brands, followed by the Germans (except Porsche). Excitement? The most exciting cars on the planet today are built in Detroit. Two of the most exciting cars in the world are Chevys. Cadillac builds better BMWs than the current gang in Munich. Heck, Kia / Genesis builds better BMWs than Munich (thank you Albert Biermann!).

The sole drivers car in BMW's product portfolio, the 2-series, is available with a 6MT, despite BMWs best efforts to kill the stick. Why? Because many enthusiasts want to drive stick! Does Singer make 911s with slush boxes? No. Enthusiasts are also market shapers / influencers, hence performance imagery helps sell cars, even for ordinary drivers. BMW earned their reputation building great performance sedans, grew the business successfully, and now appears to be paralyzed by the same success, building boring appliance cars for the masses while also trying to cling to a performance reputation. Talk about cognitive dissonance!

Sorry, German cars are so soul-crushingly boring now.

My "appliance" car is a Jeep Grand Cherokee. We use it for winter mountain travel and summer adventures in the mountains. Since the Jeep's in for repair, I'm in an Audi Q7 loaner. Compared to the Jeep, the Audi reminds me of dad's Buicks and Oldsmobiles. It's just a big, fat, shiny, boat with too much tech to intuitively operate. In contrast, the Jeep is as off-road capable as ever, while maintaining reliable mechanicals and comfort, and (subjectively) much better styling, without appearing "over designed".

I swear I believe the only reason to drive German today is social signaling the neighbors. It isn't for fun or performance anymore, based on my firsthand experience.
__________________
2011 6MT RWD ClubSport Wagon | 3,185lbs | 1 of 149 ZSPs delivered in North America
Outside: BMW M-Aero, Euro region lighting, Seibon | Inside: M3 cockpit, Recaro SPG, Prototipo, AutoSolutions SSK, UCP | Stop: M3 ST-40R, PFC | Grip: Solid-mounted subframes, rear coilover conversion, M3 Nitron R3, Hyperco, SPL, AKG, ARC8 | Go: StageFP, CF snorkel, 3IM, MILVs, SuperSprint headers, Dundon Motorsports Inconel exhaust, VoltPhreaks | Cool: CSF | PCA #2018100384 | BMW CCA #505794

Last edited by tetsuo111; 02-26-2019 at 05:39 PM..
Appreciate 4
Germanauto9665.50
MT4life575.50
apascutia172.50
      02-26-2019, 06:04 PM   #88
Germanauto
Major General
Germanauto's Avatar
United_States
9666
Rep
6,075
Posts

Drives: Alfa Romeo Giulia, Rosso
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: LA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by 530iDriver View Post
Let's be honest. In our traffic congested US major cities, any car above 250-300HP is just wasted power and fuel consumption.

You would have to either track your 382HP M340i to truly appreciate its power or drive though the middle of Nevada in the loneliest road in the continental United States..
I agree, 300-350 hp in these sedan is more than enough for me in a DD. I'd easily get into trouble with more than that.
Appreciate 1
530iDriver1707.50
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:30 PM.




g20
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST