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      02-02-2020, 11:40 AM   #1
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If the G20 wasn't available, what vehicle would you get? Need recommendations!

I guess this is directed more at the 330i owners...just to get some ideas. We need to get a second car (primarily for my wife) and she doesn't want an SUV (crossover is okay)

So if the G20 330i had ended up being a big disappointment what car would you guys have gotten instead?

Requirements- Less than 185 inches, solidly tight handling, she prefers lighter steering than 330i(but still needs to be quick and direct), Should hit 60 in at least 7 sec and be able to do at least 30 mpg. Lease needs to be under 500 per month.

Right now- looking at the Golf GTI but it doesn't seem to lease well at all. Quote was higher than my 330i. Any other ideas?
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Honda Civic Si. Perfect lower budget car, IMO.
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Audi A3? It's on its last year for the current model so some good deals are out there.
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Honda Civic Si. Perfect lower budget car, IMO.
Would be perfect but she needs an automatic...Have not test driven it yet but is the regular civic sport as fun?
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Audi A3? It's on its last year for the current model so some good deals are out there.
THe dealership near me wanted 560 per month for 15k mile lease for a premium plus model. Apparently the residual is atrocious and Audi doesn't subsidize at all.
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Honda Civic Si. Perfect lower budget car, IMO.
Would be perfect but she needs an automatic...Have not test driven it yet but is the regular civic sport as fun?
Haven't driven the sport but I believe it's a little down on power and doesn't have an LSD. The adaptive suspension is probably not in the Sport either. The Sport becomes more of an economy car. It's still more fun to drive than any other car in its class, but not nearly as much as an Si. If you're gonna learn, the Si is a really easy car to learn how to drive a stick.

If she's OK with Mini styling, that's still a fun car to drive.
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Has anyone driven the new Elantra GT N-line? Have read so many good things about this car. Super fun to drive, lot of car for the $. I can slip into one for about $300 all in with 0 out the door.
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Just get another G20.
I really would have if they let us have the wagon here lol.
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Why not just get another 330i? Is it because she prefers lighter steering?
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Haven't driven the sport but I believe it's a little down on power and doesn't have an LSD. The adaptive suspension is probably not in the Sport either. The Sport becomes more of an economy car. It's still more fun to drive than any other car in its class, but not nearly as much as an Si. If you're gonna learn, the Si is a really easy car to learn how to drive a stick.

If she's OK with Mini styling, that's still a fun car to drive.
The hardtop Mini 4 door is def on the list too. Any idea if they lease well?
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Why not just get another 330i? Is it because she prefers lighter steering?
That and we don't want to get the same exact vehicle...maybe something with a bit more utility.(like a hatch)

She also thinks the 330i is a bit too firm and feels too big. She liked our F30 much better. See, BMW is sacrificing their customer base for us all.

May just end up going with the X1 even though it's hideous. Calling it an SUV is a stretch. I see a bunch on swapalease for under 400.

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That and we don't want to get the same exact vehicle...maybe something with a bit more utility.(like a hatch)

She also thinks the 330i is a bit too firm and feels too big. She liked our F30 much better. See what BMW is sacrificing for us all.
got it... how about an IS300 f sport? It's decently quick, handles well and is extremely comfortable.

There's also the mazda3 hatch if a hatchback is the route you wanna go.
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If it wasn’t the G20 for me, I’d have gone back to an Audi A4. You should be able to get a good deal on a 2019 A4 B9 since the facelifted 2020 A4 B9.5 is beginning to hit the showrooms.
Steering is lighter than the 330i. Car is comfortable to drive. It’s more spacious inside. Bigger trunk too. The B&O sound system is miles better. And the 2.0 245hp (ex-252 hp) engine is as fast, if not faster, than the 2.0 in the 330i.

And if you don’t want to lease a brand new car, I’d recommend you check out swapalease. You get some good gems once in a while.
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If it wasn’t the G20 for me, I’d have gone back to an Audi A4. You should be able to get a good deal on a 2019 A4 B9 since the facelifted 2020 A4 B9.5 is beginning to hit the showrooms.
Steering is lighter than the 330i. Car is comfortable to drive. It’s more spacious inside. Bigger trunk too. The B&O sound system is miles better. And the 2.0 245hp (ex-252 hp) engine is as fast, if not faster, than the 2.0 in the 330i.

And if you don’t want to lease a brand new car, I’d recommend you check out swapalease. You get some good gems once in a while.
Yeah I would be really happy with the A4/ even A3 but the leases at my local dealers are in the M340i range.

I'm browsing swapalease and leasehackr as we speak. Found a decently equipped X1 for 389. May not be a terrible choice at that price point but i think i can do better.
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Yeah I would be really happy with the A4/ even A3 but the leases at my local dealers are in the M340i range.

I'm browsing swapalease and leasehackr as we speak. Found a decently equipped X1 for 389. May not be a terrible choice at that price point but i think i can do better.
Maybe get in touch with brokers on leasehackr? They might be able to help you snag a deal
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I can't really comment since I pretty much need a 6 cylinder but I can tell you that the Audi A4/A5 is a pretty good car.

I rented one with Silvercar on a recent trip and the tech is pretty good, quality is good, and it looks pretty sharp for both the exterior and interior. The turbo 4 felt like it had more than enough power too.

Steering was light but still had good feedback however the one thing the 330i has above the A4 is that the Quattro AWD system is front wheel biased and it doesn't feel as good as xdrive.

Other than that maybe the Genesis G70 is something to consider. I've seen a few out in the wild and they look pretty nice but I'm not sure about how they drive and what the real world lease pricing on those are. It even comes in a RWD+manual config if that's something you're into.

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I can't really comment since I pretty much need a 6 cylinder but I can tell you that the Audi A4/A5 is a pretty good car.

I rented one with Silvercar on a recent trip and the tech is pretty good, quality is good, and it looks pretty sharp for both the exterior and interior. The turbo 4 felt like it had more than enough power too.

Steering was light but still had good feedback however the one thing the 330i has above the A4 is that the Quattro AWD system is front wheel biased and it doesn't feel as good as xdrive.

Other than that maybe the Genesis G70 is something to consider. I've seen a few out in the wild and they look pretty nice but I'm not sure about how they drive and what the real world lease pricing on those are. It even comes in a RWD+manual config if that's something you're into.
I agree with you. The quattro is front wheel biased and the xDrive is definitely more fun. In the snow, the A4 feels safer because the xDrive tends to kick its rear end out, especially when taking turns. While it is fun and I love the fact that the rear end tends to step out, my wife hates it and prefers the way the Audi handled it. The Audi felt more “stable” according to her.
The G70 is not bad but I would not compare it to Germans. I like how the g70 looks. Hell. I even like the stinger GT. But the 2.0 inline 4 turbo engines feel more punchy, especially in traffic. The 3.3 V6 felt lethargic to me. In sport mode though, it was fast. Also, I couldn’t throw it around like I did my A4. The tech was better in my A4. More features too. And when I asked them about leasing, they gave me absurd rates. They wanted around $650 a month with zero down 10k miles a year for a $48k MSRP car. I’d pick one of the Germans over the G70.
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got it... how about an IS300 f sport? It's decently quick, handles well and is extremely comfortable.

There's also the mazda3 hatch if a hatchback is the route you wanna go.
Second this. Go for the 350. Has the dynamic you’re looking for. Only thing is don’t expect as good gas mileage and as many technology options as the 330i.
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If you need some basic practical hatches, either a Mazda 3, GTI or maybe even a Elantra GT N-Line should do the job well.

If your looking for utility without it being an SUV, the best type of vehicle would be a station wagon (that is if your wife likes them), the leftover Golf Wagons/Alltracks could be good, or even a Volvo V60 or Audi A4 Allroad, however the leases on those might not fit the bill (would have to check into that).

As for crossovers, CX-5 Turbo or maybe a Lexus NX could be nice.
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