[bobloblaw]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

#IAA2019
A storm is coming...

Nice, so it'll probably leak soon

Will it be the concept or production car? Or "concept" that's 95% production

[bmrm396]

Originally Posted by bobloblaw

Nice, so it'll probably leak soon

Will it be the concept or production car? Or "concept" that's 95% production

what it'll be is a boost to my current M3s value. there will be many who don't like the new look and start panicking looking to snap up an F80/82 or F30/32 now in good condition so they can ride it out until the LCI comes around and bmw fixes whatever feedback they get. so yahoo! ha

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by bmrm396

what it'll be is a boost to my current M3s value. there will be many who don't like the new look and start panicking looking to snap up an F80/82 or F30/32 now in good condition so they can ride it out until the LCI comes around and bmw fixes whatever feedback they get. so yahoo! ha

I wouldn't even expect a fix with the LCI refresh. That would only set you up for disappointment.

[Fugly M3]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

I wouldn't even expect a fix with the LCI refresh. That would only set you up for disappointment.

And by default create a limited pre-lci car that would turn out to be the actual collector item because it was the hated one.

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

I presume you mean current 4 series ?

And yes. It's bigger. (On both counts .. bigger than the current 2 and the current 4 )

Unfortunately you are correct.

The 2er is the perfect size, it's sad they are killing it slowly starting with the Convertible.

[Colinv6]

What I see in the last video is a dull bloated barge which looks slow and wallowy.

Then you get the Porsche, which looks, handles and most importantly SOUNDS incredible!!

[WWM3]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

So many BMW design elements right now look ABSOLUTELY AWFUL in photos but much better in person.

x2 front end
z4 front end
X7 front end

All look worse in photos than in person.

So I already know that the forum will in general hate it. That's as easy a guess as LEXUS taillights.

What I also know is that as you mentioned, after the initial shock , people will get used to the change and eventually accept it.

Remember the M3/M4 comp 666 wheel ? Everyone hated it when it came out.

I agree with you about those models. One exception is the new 7 LCI, which is just as ugly in person as it is in photographs.

[peterdf]

Originally Posted by WWM3

I agree with you about those models. One exception is the new 7 LCI, which is just as ugly in person as it is in photographs.

Originally Posted by WWM3

. One exception is the new 7 LCI, which is just as ugly in person as it is in photographs.

Seriously. First time I saw it was on an Alpina B7. The press photos actually make it look better.

[Fuller]

Originally Posted by b2nvs2001

Porsche is sublime. M4 understeers...

I think most everyone here realizes that Porsche builds a more focused sports car. The m4 is a luxury sports sedan (or coupe I suppose) that pushes the boundaries of what a large luxury coupe with usable interior space and utility can do.

The m4 can be used as a practical daily driver that can hold its own on the track. A Porsche (except suv or sedan model) is more likely to be a toy used mostly for recreational driving and at the track.

It's apples and oranges. The fact that the m2, 3, and 4 often draw comparisons to focused sports cars is a nod to bmw.

[Vesther]

Looks like it lost a tiny bit of Camo on the Headlights since last time? Looks to me like they don't get notches, and the outline seems to hint at it not touching the Grills, so more of a 8er look than the G20?

Sure hope it turns out to be a small 8er, that thing surprised me totally IRL, looks stunning, didnt expect it from watching Youtube and Pics. Excited to see the 4er drop camo.

[solstice]

Originally Posted by phoenixbmwlife

Is it me if this car leaning a lot?

That car does not want to be there and is screaming for mommy in every turn. Nothing the M team can't fix with the M4. I hope...

[Frosty]

...so saddened I cannot get a 6MT in this... I'd pre-order now if I could get a G22 440i 6MT

No official 6MT for the full 4-lineup has been revealed? M level 4?

[bimmerfile]

Lexus f**ked up their cars with their oversized grills. Hopefull BMW won't do that with the upcoming 4er.

[b2nvs2001]

Originally Posted by Fuller

I think most everyone here realizes that Porsche builds a more focused sports car. The m4 is a luxury sports sedan (or coupe I suppose) that pushes the boundaries of what a large luxury coupe with usable interior space and utility can do.

The m4 can be used as a practical daily driver that can hold its own on the track. A Porsche (except suv or sedan model) is more likely to be a toy used mostly for recreational driving and at the track.

It's apples and oranges. The fact that the m2, 3, and 4 often draw comparisons to focused sports cars is a nod to bmw.

You're absolutely right. It is apples and oranges now. Better to compare to Lexus, Audi and Mercedes from now on. My apologies.

[MmmmmM2]

Originally Posted by bimmerfile

Lexus f**ked up their cars with their oversized grills. Hopefull BMW won't do that with the upcoming 4er.

Agreed but at least on the Lexus it doesn't look awkward.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Vesther

Looks like it lost a tiny bit of Camo on the Headlights since last time? Looks to me like they don't get notches, and the outline seems to hint at it not touching the Grills, so more of a 8er look than the G20?

Sure hope it turns out to be a small 8er, that thing surprised me totally IRL, looks stunning, didnt expect it from watching Youtube and Pics. Excited to see the 4er drop camo.

You didn't? The 8 always looked good. Still does!

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

So many BMW design elements right now look ABSOLUTELY AWFUL in photos but much better in person.

x2 front end
z4 front end
X7 front end

All look worse in photos than in person.

So I already know that the forum will in general hate it. That's as easy a guess as LEXUS taillights.

What I also know is that as you mentioned, after the initial shock , people will get used to the change and eventually accept it.

Remember the M3/M4 comp 666 wheel ? Everyone hated it when it came out.

Interesting because, while I don't like the huge X7/7 Series grills, the X2/X4 and Z4 look pretty good to me. I think that the Z4 is one of the best looking roadsters on the market.


P.S. I didn't care for the 666's when they came out and I still don't care for them now.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by bimmerfile

Lexus f**ked up their cars with their oversized grills. Hopefull BMW won't do that with the upcoming 4er.

At least the overall design of the Lexus incorporates that large grill cohesively. The BMW grill designs look like afterthoughts.

[MmmmmM2]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

At least the overall design of the Lexus incorporates that large grill cohesively. The BMW grill designs look like afterthoughts.

Exactly!

[chief]

Looks like a Honda Accord Coupe
...not really a fan of the current M4 either.

[Jason]

Newest Nurburgring sighting.

[kern417]

Hopefully not a stupid question, but is the G22 going to be revealed before or after the G82? It'll be pretty much the same front end, right?