[M6-Coupe]

Nice front ugly rear and weird shifter deleted!

[Quadruple VANOS]

The new tiny shift lever means shifting the drivetrain to S/M mode is a lot more difficult to find by feel now. Instead of quickly moving the traditional lever leftward (say, as I approach an off ramp), we'll have to feel for that little lever. This is my biggest issue. It might just push me to the M2.

Personally I like the floating dashboard more than the outgoing version of all-digital dashboard. Elsewhere the design of a floating image/screen in space has long been established as desirable. Cars aren't really any different. I understand BMW's moving to this direction.

PSA: the 1-8 presets are now digital, and accessed by an upward swipe on the screen.

[530iDriver]

Originally Posted by TheBlackGT

literally what is this obsession with getting rid of gear shifts... I dont get it. never heard anyone complain about having one. in a ZF/DCT car I like being able to use the shifter instead of the paddles in manual mode sometimes.

is it just me of the front reminds me of an Oni Mask? overall it's not awful, the diffuser is a bit weird though. meh.

Originally Posted by TheBlackGT

literally what is this obsession with getting rid of gear shifts... I dont get it. never heard anyone complain about having one. in a ZF/DCT car I like being able to use the shifter instead of the paddles in manual mode sometimes.

is it just me of the front reminds me of an Oni Mask? overall it's not awful, the diffuser is a bit weird though. meh.

Saves them money per car.

I bet that transmission button panel is much cheaper than the old electronic joystick.

[530iDriver]

Originally Posted by Nahlem

Hmm the screen thing for me at least does it better then the original mostly because it gets rid of that gianormus hump above the gauge cluster witch is a part of the dashboard witch is nice. I like it a lot on my i4, instead of built in to the dash. But they could have done a better job with making the screen feel better at place i don't even know if it is necessary to have such big screen, they could have gone a tad smaller and give more visibility. But it does look more modern then the previous one in my opinion i like that the trim is more exposed it make it looks nice especially when going for the carbon look it does it better. And i prefer when the dashboard behind the screen looks more at place while it integrates with the trim witch goes under the big screen at the same time it gives the more "roomy" feel because it looks like the screen is "hovering"

The hvac issue is a none issue you don't need specific buttons for that when it is on display all the time. You still get the two most important buttons available to you defrosting and max fans on front window to get rid of fog when that becomes an issue. I guess to simplify it they could have just put two buttons below the navigation wheel for heated seats instead of that black plastic, but other then that you get to choose use the navigation wheel to fiddle around the menus or use the touch screen, the navigation wheel witch you can set certain shortcuts to makes for fast navigation when needed a certain menu. Or simply use the AI to set the heat settings witch is the least distraction above all even less distracting then pressing + or - on some buttons for that.

Hmm removing the shifter well i guess thats to each and everyone on automatics i doesn't matter to much unless you use that to shift gears when in "manual" mode sens you have the paddles behind the steering wheel.

But what they should have improved on changing the plastic that surrounds the shifter/gear selector that is just not good enough any more.

And oh my god this thing with the "piano black" everywhere on the car yeah that is getting old rather quick.

Originally Posted by TheBlackGT

literally what is this obsession with getting rid of gear shifts... I dont get it. never heard anyone complain about having one. in a ZF/DCT car I like being able to use the shifter instead of the paddles in manual mode sometimes.

is it just me of the front reminds me of an Oni Mask? overall it's not awful, the diffuser is a bit weird though. meh.

Like the new one better.

But…

The HVAC controls are now buried within iDrive 8.

[530iDriver]

Originally Posted by premier3is

Not a fan of the rear diffuser, removal of gear shifter, front oddly shaped L scoops, and the horrendous looking iDrive 8 screens that looked like it was just slapped on without any consideration to make it look like it's built into the car. I'll be sticking with my pre-LCI.

Originally Posted by TheBlackGT

literally what is this obsession with getting rid of gear shifts... I dont get it. never heard anyone complain about having one. in a ZF/DCT car I like being able to use the shifter instead of the paddles in manual mode sometimes.

is it just me of the front reminds me of an Oni Mask? overall it's not awful, the diffuser is a bit weird though. meh.

In 6 months you'll be praising this LCI

[TheStanman]

Originally Posted by Cortexiphan

No, idrive 8 is way more expensive to build for sure.
Way brighter and sharper screen, way faster processor.

I don't think anyone is arguing that ID8 is cheaper than ID7. The cost cutting is specifically removing buttons and integrating the functions into the screen.

Best case would be ID8 (screen, processor) while keeping the physical controls. It would cost more to make, but not unreasonable to expect on a luxury car.

For the physical controls they did keep, they made odd choices. Max AC and rear defroster are things you use a few times per year. Temp and fan speed are things you use a few time per drive.

[530iDriver]

Personally, I like this G20 LCI very much.

But this marks the last 2 production years for the G20 3-Series. Would it be better to wait out the next 24 months for the next gen 3-Series?

[iifymbro]

using that little plastic knob gunna be like

[Rawhide]

Originally Posted by 530iDriver

Personally, I like this G20 LCI very much.

But this marks the last 2 production years for the G20 3-Series. Would it be better to wait out the next 24 months for the next gen 3-Series?

If you like this then I'd say waiting isn't a bad idea since it'll certainly trend more in this direction.

[jiimmmayyy]

Also something to note, maybe the Cerium trim is no longer since the release shows the shadowline package off the bat. As well as it being gone on the X3 LCI

[BigSky702]

Originally Posted by Cheech666

The infotainment and the screen is too big and not integrated i dont like it its one of the reasons i used to prefer bmw than mercedes

That and having a shift knob in the correct location! I could never get used to Mercedes having it on the steering column.

BMW now chose to replace it with a button?!!!

[Rawhide]

Originally Posted by jiimmmayyy

Also something to note, maybe the Cerium trim is no longer since the release shows the shadowline package off the bat. As well as it being gone on the X3 LCI

In the videos the reviewers stated shadowline would be standard but you could opt for the traditional trim.

[jiimmmayyy]

Originally Posted by Rawhide

In the videos the reviewers stated shadowline would be standard but you could opt for the traditional trim.

I see, I haven't gotten the chance to watch the videos

[advantage20]

Originally Posted by jiimmmayyy

Also something to note, maybe the Cerium trim is no longer since the release shows the shadowline package off the bat. As well as it being gone on the X3 LCI

Indeed the Cerium Grey trim seems like it's gone for good off the M Performance lineup. They're back to classic chrome badging, with black optionally available for the grille






My guess is that customers didn't necessarily dislike Cerium Grey per se, but perhaps were struggling to spontaneously pinpoint the M Performance versions within a given model range due to this peculiar badging, since the level below (standard or M Sport) and the level above (base M) were each getting chrome badging but the one in-between somehow didn't. Now the badging's been harmonized from the ground up with all chrome, up to M Competition where it switches to black, then M CS gets that champagne hue which actually looks similar to the defunct Cerium Grey -- this potential confusion with M CS may in fact be the main reason.

[stein_325i]

Originally Posted by swagon

Why would they not show images of the base model? It's only in the configurator.

Looks better than m sport

Rear bumper certainly looks better since they got rid of those weird Y-shaped plastic pieces.

[Mavus]

Originally Posted by m34m

So all screen just like MB. I guess that's cheaper to simply stick in there and program with software versus actually building things like gauges and climate control systems. No gear lever so no console shifting or anywhere to put your hand. They are homogenizing and digitizing all models to make the slide to full EV less noticeable and more palatable for the masses. I'm hanging on to my older models for dear life including the low miles 2011 E90 335i I recently sourced. That is until the authoritarians force us out of ICE with more punitive measures and mandates coupled with disastrous economic and geo political policy that has sent oil prices skyward.

same here … 2011 e90 335i no nav manual will serve as dd for a long time … don't need anything else

time to buy good pre owned vehicle and keep it … these new models have no advantage and that slapped on screen is horrid.

[Mavus]

need to feel like I am sitting in a car and am connected to it and not a lab

[AndrewC1989]

Originally Posted by Poochie

From what I gather, there are individual buttons for Sport, Comfort and Eco and I'm guessing you can save a custom profile in Sport and toggle that same button to switch between Sport, Sport+ and your Individual saved profile. You get less fine-tune driver profile option settings (No Steering, Throttle, ect) in non-M models, just general mode changes.

There is also a physical push/pull lever to alternate the transmission between Drive and Neutral, which I've circled.


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Yeah that makes sense. Just curious if you can select the sport setting for the transmission via the gear selector. Maybe pulling it down once more after drive would do that. Or maybe it actually does move left and right a small amount.

[2srsman]

The 2 series coupe G42 M240i has now also been updated with OS8 & the new wide screen displays. I was just having a play on the BMW UK website & found this. I wonder if all orders in place will also be updated to OS8 & the impact on the value of the cars delivered with OS7. I have contacted my dealer & still waiting to hear back. If anyone has any further information please let me know.

[Maverik259]

Not bad look. 100% not a fan or the iPads they forgot to design into the interior and just throw on with a mount. I don't care as much if the iDrive screen is like that. But definitely not the instrument cluster. Not being integrated into the dash just looks awful.

[ASAP]

The lack of a few physical buttons will be a major step backwards- namely temp control, fan speed and the 8 presets.

If they had left that alone, there really wouldn't be many issues.

I think the gauge layout and the shifter are stupid but that's something you could get used to... those physical buttons are an obvious issue the monent you get in. I can't imagine driving an M2 and M3 when they get these updates.

[SW19]

Originally Posted by 2srsman

The 2 series coupe G42 M240i has now also been updated with OS8 & the new wide screen displays. I was just having a play on the BMW UK website & found this. I wonder if all orders in place will also be updated to OS8 & the impact on the value of the cars delivered with OS7. I have contacted my dealer & still waiting to hear back. If anyone has any further information please let me know.

You are right.Just looked on the UK site and they have also ditched the traditional gear shifter on the M240i for 2023.It will be interesting to see if they keep the traditional shifter for the G87.