[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by CachacoF80

I don't think it's denial, nobody was expecting the grille to be the same size as today's. I think people expected a design pattern that blends well with the car and the enlarged grille trend. So when some see this concept 4 pictures, they don't feel they got the job done. At least I feel that way, that they did a bad overall design job.

They should've been. After all, spy pic after spy pic showed how large the grills were relative to the rest of the bumper/surrounding area. People just chose not to believe it. The front end turned out to be more or less what I was expecting. I've always liked the side profile silhouette, so I have no issues with that. I still feel indifferent about the rear, but it'll grow on me I'm sure.

[lowrydr310]

Designers: "Let's copy the Lexus LC500 and put the new X7 grill on it!"

[BigT]

That's the right mix of evolution and revolution, not bad.
Curios how different the i4 will look like.

[BigT]

Originally Posted by DZ F30

How does BMW go from this, to this?

Completely different lens angle and distance.

[gsrbri]

Very bold - it is a concept after all. I do worry it may be too grille-centric and not capture the bmw design language that makes it a bmw (e.g., hoffmeister kink - although they do have a mini/modified one even here)

[H.I.T]

FYI, I made a comparison of BMW recent "series" concept and the actual production car:

[FZ36]

Originally Posted by pz619

I feel like I've been down on BMW lately and fairly vocally critical, but honestly I think they've completely lost it at this point. FWD cars, comical grills, poor electric steering when everyone else seemed to figure it out, subscription carplay with the rumor of expanding it to other services, and now this? It's like they are actively trying to lose customers.

What is going on at BMW?

I can’t help but feel this too. I’m not saying that BMW is failing and this design is their doom and gloom. But, it definitely seems like there is a LOT of mixed opinion and decision making up at the executive level for how they should move the brand forward.

Some of these recent decisions are almost as if they can’t come to an agreement in the board room, so they throw a blind dart and hope it hits some sort of target.

[seepete753]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

It will not be a smaller grill. You guys have been in denial for months despite spy shots telling you this was coming, and now that it's here you're still having a problem shrugging off that denial. You're going to be in for a long model cycle.

Looks like its going to be a long model cycle regardless of people's denial...

[advantage20]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

...Just like this, minus the chrome, 21" wheels and Tron mirrors.

Still thicker headlights and a very slightly smaller grille, seeing the spyshots. Looks to me as close to production as the 8er Concept was, i.e. not super super close.

[m630]

Horrid. Literally bmw has hired the worst designers in their history, and the Q family has evidently all lost their vision. How/what/why?

This looks nothing like a bmw, and thats bad, and the grills look nothing like the concept CSL they were supposed to follow.

Another epic fail, like the 8er and 7er. Way to go bmw with losing more loyal customers.

P car here we come

[seepete753]

Originally Posted by H.I.T

FYI, I made a comparison of BMW recent "series" concept and the actual production car:

Common theme to note here is grill size never drastically changed in any of the production models here. This grill is definitely the real deal

[AGAV13]

The site should be renamed to "BEAVERPOST" with these huge and ugly front ends.

[RowanBuds]

Originally Posted by Foodle

What color?

Soon, I'm going to need to upgrade from my E90. So it's either F80, F90, or another brand (4 rings probably). Not even going to consider the G80 monstrosity. Hopefully this design style will pass just like Bangle's did.

What color/spec on the E90, I may be able to help you out!

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by H.I.T

FYI, I made a comparison of BMW recent "series" concept and the actual production car:

Nice compilation.

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by H.I.T

FYI, I made a comparison of BMW recent "series" concept and the actual production car:

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Nice compilation.

indeed...

grille shrinks from the concept to production every time.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

@HIT

grille shrinks from the concept to production every time.

This is more or less showing us the likely production grill. I feel like the renders cater a tad more toward the production grill (... with regards to shape) than the concept car's grill, but any hopes of significant shrinkage should be jettisoned. Accept this new way forward.

[emulajavi]

The thing that changes the most is the HOOD LINE.

Imagine how much better the Z4 or previous 4 series (and all F series BMWs) would have looked with the hood line not in the middle of nowhere.


Also what a beautiful Hoftmeister Kink had the current 4 series. Simply perfect. Like he previous 6 series one.

Originally Posted by H.I.T

FYI, I made a comparison of BMW recent "series" concept and the actual production car:

[AlpineBoost]

They should replace the roundel with this

[OF Hero]

The M cars with their aggressive styling will pull it off even better, IMO.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by emulajavi

The thing that changes the most is the HOOD LINE.

Imagine how much better the Z4 or previous 4 series (and all F series BMWs) would have looked with the hood line not in the middle of nowhere.


Also what a beautiful Hoftmeister Kink had the current 4 series. Simply perfect. Like he previous 6 series one.

SCOTT26 did confirm that the production hood line will be different.

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

This is more or less showing us the likely production grill. I feel like the renders cater a tad more to the production grill than the concept car's grill, but any hopes of significant shrinkage should be jettisoned. Accept this new way forward.

Well yes.. of course... designing a render based that looks more like the concept ISNT the intention here.

The render is put out there as an idea of what the production car will be.

PS. I am not hooping for or expecting anything.. the 4er is not on my shopping list and hasn't been since it's inception. if I needed a rebadged 6er I would just get a 6er..

As far as the size of the grille... I am sure it will be smaller in production than in any renders.. simply based on recent trend.
I don't expect it to shrink to 2000s sizing at all... and it doesn't look horrible to me.. just different.....

I DO find it interesting that the 3er grille and 4er grille appear to be so different....

[MParallel]

I only just noticed they fitted a transparant EU size license plate for this model.

That’s clever.