BMW Today - THE 4: Live Q&A with Exterior Designer Christopher Weil

apirumann · 07-17-2020, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Regardless of whether or not there's truth to that statement, what does that have to do with attraction?!?! Your statement doesn't nullify mine.

That picture does...

You are saying that you love your wife so much, she is the most beautiful person in the world, but she is not. She is the one you are attracted to but not the most beautiful. There are other beautiful women out there more beautiful then her but you are not attracted to them. So, that does not mean this car design is not ugly just because you are attracted to it.

P.S. Not saying your wife is ugly.

Sedan_Clan · 07-17-2020, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by apirumann

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Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Regardless of whether or not there's truth to that statement, what does that have to do with attraction?!?! Your statement doesn't nullify mine.

That picture does...

You are saying that you love your wife so much, she is the most beautiful person in the world, but she is not. She is the one you are attracted to but not the most beautiful. There are other beautiful women out there more beautiful then her but you are not attracted to them. So, that does not mean this car design is not ugly just because you are attracted to it.

P.S. Not saying your wife is ugly.

I never said I had a wife (...I don't!!!) and I never said anything about "most beautiful." What I did say is that a husband/wife may find their spouses attractive while other may not, thus, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. You then responded about how people marry those in proximity, which has nothing to do with my outright attraction comment.

KoenG · 07-17-2020, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

I think one man's ugly is another man's attractive. There are a lot of ugly wives out there, but their husband's consider them attractive. Beauty is in the eye.....

I think your statement is correct, but I would have left out the sentence about husband and wife...

Most husbands have their impaired sight adjusted after a while and discover their princess was actually a witch wearing some cheap lipstick.

There is another saying about this: "love is blind", and when the love is gone, which usually happens over time, your sight has returned.

apirumann · 07-17-2020, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

I never said I had a wife (...I don't!!!) and I never said anything about "most beautiful." What I did say is that a husband/wife may find their spouses attractive while other may not, thus, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. You then responded about how people marry those in proximity, which has nothing to do with my outright attraction comment.

Ok let me rephrase that then...

"A man attracted to his wife does not necessarily mean, that man has a beautiful wife" is what you are saying. So, you think this design is not beautiful yet you are attracted to it...

Also, I am super confused. You have a Nardo gray M4 but you liked this design?? How many miles on the M4? Is it a convertible? Are you in the States? Maybe I'll get myself a Nardo Gray M4 deal out of this conversation

Sedan_Clan · 07-17-2020, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by apirumann

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Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

I never said I had a wife (...I don't!!!) and I never said anything about "most beautiful." What I did say is that a husband/wife may find their spouses attractive while other may not, thus, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. You then responded about how people marry those in proximity, which has nothing to do with my outright attraction comment.

Ok let me rephrase that then...

"A man attracted to his wife does not necessarily mean, that man has a beautiful wife" is what you are saying. So, you think this design is not beautiful yet you are attracted to it...

Also, I am super confused. You have a Nardo gray M4 but you liked this design?? How many miles on the M4? Is it a convertible? Are you in the States? Maybe I'll get myself a Nardo Gray M4 deal out of this conversation

It has 15,000 miles. I purchased it in Oct. of 2016. If I get the G82, it's yours.....mods and all.

SabineBimmer · 07-17-2020, 10:40 PM

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So how about them grilles?

The new interior quality and tech will be what sells the new gen, in spite of ol' Bucky

Sedan_Clan · 07-18-2020, 02:14 AM

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So how about them grilles?

The new interior quality and tech will be what sells the new gen, in spite of ol' Bucky

I like the M3/M4 snout.

apirumann · 07-18-2020, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

It has 15,000 miles. I purchased it in Oct. of 2016. If I get the G82, it's yours.....mods and all.

If only it was a vert... but thanks though. I am attracted to this beautiful design

SabineBimmer · 07-18-2020, 09:49 AM

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So how about them grilles?

The new interior quality and tech will be what sells the new gen, in spite of ol' Bucky

I like the M3/M4 snout.

I will admit that the thicker slats and the grille underneath makes it much more attractive.

clutchdj · 07-18-2020, 10:20 AM

Front does look like a smiling pig. The proportions are so far off. Smh. Rear looks ok. What I believe is that from a marketing point of view, for people that know nothing about cars, they will know that it’s a BMW by the front end. Is it me or did he make it sound like the car is designed for posers?

mbanck · 07-18-2020, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by NorCalAthlete

@14:40 or so he talks about license plates and how they didn't like the asymmetry of offset mounting.

Then WTF is up with the radar thing being offset?!

They try to hide the radar offset by having a fake plastic over it that looks like the dots in the grille. It is pretty obvious if you know where to look, so I am sure they put it there in order to keep symmetry. Maybe they should've put a second (fake) ACC sensor on the other side, but it would probably look even worse IMO.

Whether the M3/M4 will get something similar remains to be seen.

SteveinArizona · 07-18-2020, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SabineBimmer

So how about them grilles?

The new interior quality and tech will be what sells the new gen, in spite of ol' Bucky

I love the pictures. Now if only I could manage to only see the car from the side, I could buy one.

gallian93 · 07-21-2020, 03:28 PM

I feel bad actually... Looks like a man desperately trying to keep his job... "No no look, this car is the same car as the an E9 !! Please believe me!!!! I beg you!!!! (

)... THIS CAR IS SEXY!!!!!

DO YOU HEAR ME????? SEXY!!!

, ....

Please i have kids, i have a mortgage!!!!"

VetteGuy · 07-21-2020, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by clutchdj

Front does look like a smiling pig. The proportions are so far off. Smh. Rear looks ok. What I believe is that from a marketing point of view, for people that know nothing about cars, they will know that it’s a BMW by the front end. Is it me or did he make it sound like the car is designed for posers?

It's you.

TEGRITY · 07-22-2020, 08:31 AM

this guy.... BMW's very own COVID-19?

Mani59 · 07-28-2020, 06:38 AM

NorCalAthlete · 07-28-2020, 11:16 PM

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Watched about 2 min of this - just looks like a chopped down edited version of the video in the first post. Should I have watched the whole thing? Is there anything new? Or just a rehash of the same stuff.

Randy Johnson · 08-24-2020, 12:41 PM

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No they don’t have to. They do this with every model.

The 4 is the best looking BMW right now. It looks mean, aggressive, expensive, luxurious. I don’t like the back very much though, as it’s too ordinary and doesn’t match with the bold front fascia.

The F80/82 looks sooooooooo much better than this newer version.

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