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bmw ll01 or bmw ll04 approval lower KV100 high HTHS between 3.5 minimum to 3.9 to 4 max noack as low as it can be , max 10%,ideal between 5-8% mb. 229.5 or mb. 229.51-2 most stringent approval porsche A40 or porsche C30 or porsche C40 ideally low pour point under 45 degrees , indicator of good base stocks if you track the car then a hths of 3.6 to 4 if not track the car 3.5 to 3.6 is good enough. am i right? as for me , i don't track the car, but i do a spiritual driving,i do a lot of short commute as we discussed in another topic, fuel dilution is there,my engine gets hot,its direct injection with a lot of problems ,especially injectors. considering all these factors and demands and rules and specifications etc. you said that mobil 1 esp 5-30, bmw tpt 5-30 ll04-ll01 , and castrol 0-30 both ll01-ll04 are the best choices,driven there by hths and not by grade, grade is indicator of what oil brand viscosity we are talking about i think mobil is 3.5 hths, bmw tpt 5-30 ll01-ll04 is 3.6 and castrol 0-30 is 3.8.right? mobil has porsche approval too ,castrol just mb. 229xx i just don't know anything about noack of these 3. new mobil 1,bmw tpt ll01,ll04 and castrol 0-30 both ll01-ll04.do you have the numbers for these 3? and second question about pressure.what if use 1 of these oils and my mechanic founds out that these oils can't keep the pressure .i go to higher viscosity,40 grade but how musch hths to choose considering the way i drive, and the short commute ? is 3.6 -3.7 enough or i need to use a thicker oil since as you claim thicker oil is by hths and not by grade only. and which oil could that be for example? thanks for your answer. Last edited by ericold; 07-30-2023 at 04:30 AM.. |
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Pressure? That is all HTHS. HTHS is basically measured using methodology that is used to determine coold cranking pumpability or W rating, just at 150c. It is MUCH better indicator than grade. Castrol 0W30: 3.58cP. Mobil1 0W40: 3.6cP PPE 5W40: 3.88cP. Motul X-Clean 5W40: 3.8cP Yes, your car gets hot. It is designed to get hot. It improves efficiency and performance. But spirited driving is nothing. It is actually good preventive habit. Short trips, city commute will do more harm on engine than spirited driving or track even. As soon as oil temperature is high enough (165f or higher) I am in redline! Here is UOA of Castrol 0W30 (right column). It was used in winter, 1-2 times a week going to ski resorts. Cold starts as low as -30f sometimes. Right column is Castrol Edge 0W40. Driven in summer, around 500mls of track time, above 100f temperature at 5,100ft altitude. Some sessions were 60min long: |
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Outside warranty, you can absolutely use LL04. Mobil1 ESP 5W30 has again LL04 and is very stout. New Motul EFE 0W30 is also LL04, and so far I like the way that oil looks the most. |
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09-24-2023, 05:48 AM | #55 |
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Up to 40K miles I stuck to to OEM BMW 0W-30, never had any burning issues, (Even after a track day running at 90+ degree weather) always was full at oil change intervals. Switched to Liquimoly 5W-40 Leightlauf as recommended by many people especially running Stage 2 and E85 blend occasionally and for the first time I've had to top up about a quart. I've driven about 5-6K on this oil and have noticed significant oil consumption and it dropping from full. Not sure what happened as it's significantly thicker then 0W-30 if someone can explain to me. I will be switching back to 0W-30 next oil change. Reference back you will see many posts throughout the forums of how 0W-30 has never given me a issue.
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Just my 2 cents here.. I purchased my 23 last December and changed the oil that February or March at 1200 or 1500 miles. I went with castrol (European) LL17 approved and all that good stuff. I got the oil service notification a few weeks ago. I'm going with valvoline this time around. I could care less about the free oil changes from the stealership. No one is going to treat your car like you would.
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AEL always looked good for LL04. EOT is for LL01. Take into consideration none is approved by BMW. Motul is. I think both are very stout. Amsoil always had good products. The question is whether they can justify price? I don’t think so, as other blenders have also very good oils. Also, we get here into that issue of blender not having approvals (AEL has VW504.00/507.00) and advertising as “meets or exceeds.” |
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Motul has their "Specific BMW LL-01FE" in 0w30 but I haven't been able to locate the data sheet. Do you or anyone here have experience with this line? I'm curious to see how it stacks up against their X-Clean+ EFE 0w30 - https://shopmotul.com/product/specific-ll-01-fe-0w-30 |
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Hi, have a 330i 2019 and is due a service soon. The manual states 3 types of oil. Which do i put in?
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Hey guys, I've read & re-read this thread several times. I have a 2021 M340i xDrive (in the US)
I've purchased it CPO and have extended warranty till late 2025. Currently the car has about 2000 miles and the oil change indicator notification has come on. I want to change my own oil, don't want the dealer touching it if possible. Special shoutout to edycol for the wealth of knowledge. Few questions below:
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cleanflow just use a 0W-20 or 0W-30 oil with the correct BMW cert. Your manual specifically says both weights are fine. I've heard anecdotally that even dealers have used 0W-30, but who knows. Not sure how a dealer would evaluate your oil weight if there was an issue; hell, they could give you a headache for not allowing BMW to change it.
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