[SapphireG20]

Originally Posted by docjack12

hi i just bought the black sapphire one and car is absolutely great. I got the cleaning pack from BMW Mauritius and wanted to know if the foam leather cleaner could be applied to the Sensatec seats?

Originally Posted by docjack12

hi i just bought the black sapphire one and car is absolutely great. I got the cleaning pack from BMW Mauritius and wanted to know if the foam leather cleaner could be applied to the Sensatec seats?

I'm not sure, my car has the cognac leather. Maybe give your dealer a call before trying it.

[exhibhooligan]

Originally Posted by docjack12

hi i just bought the black sapphire one and car is absolutely great. I got the cleaning pack from BMW Mauritius and wanted to know if the foam leather cleaner could be applied to the Sensatec seats?

I actually just put Lexol Vinylex on all my sensatec seats and the center console where your elbow rests.

I was worried it would leave a shinny finish (The best way to ruin an interior is to have any type of shiny finish IMO) aka the Armor All look.

But, I'm extremely happy with the look. Matte finish with zero shine. It should also provide food protection. UV, discoloration, etc. Applied with an applicator pad and then buffed off with a microfiber.

[Vinbim]

I'd most definitely recommend a G20 330i!

My G20 330xi is my third BMW. I've had a F32 4 series Coupe and a F36 4 series Gran Coupe. I loved these cars, but like many, was not enamored by the grill on the new G22 4 series, so I expanded my search for a new car to the 3 and 5 series. After extensively test driving many variants of both series, I decided on the G20 330xi. Loved everything about it, and to me, it is a really nice evolution from the F chassis cars.

Mine has ADAP which I use extensively and love. I don't think I can have another car without it. It is extremely accurate, and even though I utilize an Escort radar detector, I believe that it will save me from incurring speeding tickets when set at a reasonable speed.

The car is quiet, refined, and will go all out when asked. I attached a pic of mine and also this YouTube link of a G20 330i on the Autobahn . . .


https://youtu.be/9jMpA4TMhP0

[b1gtuna]

I just got my G20 330xi. This is my first BMW that I own personally. As a daily, I love it - it's nimble, quick and comfortable enough. As a recommendation to someone else (ie, my mother, wife or my daugther) - I got mixed feelings about this car. It's quick and sporty for sure, but I really wish more safety features were available in the mid-level trim (Premium Package in here the USA). It's hard to find one equipped with high beam assist, adaptive cruise control, and lane keeping assistance. Granted these are the standard in only certain brands (ie. Hyundai), but I really hope these features are at least more accessible (DAP adds $3300 from the base 330i, which I think is a lot). So I'd definitely recommend a 330 to anyone with these features - it's just that it will be hard to find one in a dealer's lot.

[Conezz]

Originally Posted by b1gtuna

I just got my G20 330xi. This is my first BMW that I own personally. As a daily, I love it - it's nimble, quick and comfortable enough. As a recommendation to someone else (ie, my mother, wife or my daugther) - I got mixed feelings about this car. It's quick and sporty for sure, but I really wish more safety features were available in the mid-level trim (Premium Package in here the USA). It's hard to find one equipped with high beam assist, adaptive cruise control, and lane keeping assistance. Granted these are the standard in only certain brands (ie. Hyundai), but I really hope these features are at least more accessible (DAP adds $3300 from the base 330i, which I think is a lot). So I'd definitely recommend a 330 to anyone with these features - it's just that it will be hard to find one in a dealer's lot.

Funny you say that. I never use any of the three. Adaptive cruise control is a great idea for highway traffic but it falls short in one major issue: leaves too much space such that drivers cut right in front. The high beam assist it silly. Had it on my previous cars and never used it long term due to accuracy issues. Lane keep assistance is downright dangerous and shouldn’t be an option. Almost caused an accident. Gesture control is gimmicky as well. Now it’s shut off.

What I really miss that isn’t available on the 3 series: A/C seats!

[b1gtuna]

Originally Posted by Conezz

Funny you say that. I never use any of the three. Adaptive cruise control is a great idea for highway traffic but it falls short in one major issue: leaves too much space such that drivers cut right in front. The high beam assist it silly. Had it on my previous cars and never used it long term due to accuracy issues. Lane keep assistance is downright dangerous and shouldn’t be an option. Almost caused an accident. Gesture control is gimmicky as well. Now it’s shut off.

What I really miss that isn’t available on the 3 series: A/C seats!

Which car did you have issue with LKA? Not every LKA is the same. ACC isn’t an answer for every highway driving situation, but for someone who drives through miles of endless highway where cars are sparse, it is a god send. I don’t mean I’m reading a book while the car drives itself. I am paying just as much attention on the road, except I’m not straining my arms and legs making micro adjustments. Same for HBA, especially with the G20’s subpar LED lights. But again, the 3 series isn’t something I’d recommend for a lot of highway driving anyways. I agree with gesture control and cooled seats though.

[TheRetroGuy]

I love the way the car drives, the power (even only in a 330i) and handling, the fuel economy, the suspension (adaptive) etc.

What I don't like is it constantly makes me question it's reliability. It doesn't always lock itself when I walk away. It sometimes leaves the lights on when I park in the garage, and I don't find out about it 4 hours later. It sometimes requires me to press the Start button 3 times to start the thing. Sometimes Spotify works, sometimes not. Carplay is hit or miss.

I don't want a car that requires babysitting. Starting to feel some regrets.

[firetitanx]

Originally Posted by TheRetroGuy

I love the way the car drives, the power (even only in a 330i) and handling, the fuel economy, the suspension (adaptive) etc.

What I don't like is it constantly makes me question it's reliability. It doesn't always lock itself when I walk away. It sometimes leaves the lights on when I park in the garage, and I don't find out about it 4 hours later. It sometimes requires me to press the Start button 3 times to start the thing. Sometimes Spotify works, sometimes not. Carplay is hit or miss.

I don't want a car that requires babysitting. Starting to feel some regrets.

Originally Posted by TheRetroGuy

I love the way the car drives, the power (even only in a 330i) and handling, the fuel economy, the suspension (adaptive) etc.

What I don't like is it constantly makes me question it's reliability. It doesn't always lock itself when I walk away. It sometimes leaves the lights on when I park in the garage, and I don't find out about it 4 hours later. It sometimes requires me to press the Start button 3 times to start the thing. Sometimes Spotify works, sometimes not. Carplay is hit or miss.

I don't want a car that requires babysitting. Starting to feel some regrets.

Hi there for your auto locking issue I had the same issue and thought something was broken
What is was that I always opened the boot and didn't wait for it to close before I walked away from the car that's why it did not auto lock
Once I waited for the boot to close it auto locked every time

Another thing I experienced is if you keep your key in your pocket with your phone the phone blocks the signal so it won't auto lock so keep your key separate

Also I very cold weather it does not seem to work or the range is hugely decreased


I never had the engine start issue mine worked every time are you sure you are pressing the brake when you start the engine else it won't start

Also make sure your lights are in the auto position it will automatically turn off and on

CarPlay is impacted a lot by your mobile phone signal well the apps inside CarPlay so if you have bad signal it flakes out , so you need to be with a good service provider on 4G minimum to get good function

Good luck hope your issues are resolved

[TheRetroGuy]

Originally Posted by firetitanx

Hi there for your auto locking issue I had the same issue and thought something was broken
What is was that I always opened the boot and didn't wait for it to close before I walked away from the car that's why it did not auto lock
Once I waited for the boot to close it auto locked every time

Another thing I experienced is if you keep your key in your pocket with your phone the phone blocks the signal so it won't auto lock so keep your key separate

Also I very cold weather it does not seem to work or the range is hugely decreased


I never had the engine start issue mine worked every time are you sure you are pressing the brake when you start the engine else it won't start

Also make sure your lights are in the auto position it will automatically turn off and on

CarPlay is impacted a lot by your mobile phone signal well the apps inside CarPlay so if you have bad signal it flakes out , so you need to be with a good service provider on 4G minimum to get good function

Good luck hope your issues are resolved

Oddly, mine seems to have worked better during cold weather (either that or it was before the iDrive update). My mobile signal is always good - and as far as I can tell my mobile hotspot reception is always good.

I noticed the key fob behind the phone thing too -- but even if that were the only issue, it's embarassing for BMW because I had very reliable key fob detection for the last 10 years now in my Japanese makes. Besides, it still can't seems like hit or miss detection even when its in my pocket by itself, or held in my hand.

[GrannyShiftG80]

i've had my g20 330xi for 6 months now

great car except for the power
car is pretty damn slow

if i could go back i would have gotten the m340 instead

[kuki]

I would not. Especially, if you are living in US, there are plenty of other cars you might give it a try.
That's my first BMW ever and probably the last one.
First of all - seating position. Way too high and not comfortable at all. I have basic M Sport seats with manual adjustment and still after 5 months of ownership I do not feel comfortable in car. Side bolsters works weird to me - like right one is getting much more "pumped" than left one.
The gearbox. For comfortable drive is fine, but once you want to drive more aggressively it is getting lost. Sometimes it downshifts, sometimes don't. You better get into manual mode it's safer - especially if you want to pass someone in secondary road.

Coming from Alfa Romeo Giulia I had high expectations. Everything there was almost perfect for me, but still I wanted to check out BMW. On test drive it was fine and I was happy about that but right now I got a feeling that my car is completely different than one I drove that day.
I wouldn't say that it is bad car. Engine is just perfection, fuel consumption is superb, build quality is decent, but for me everything else sucks.
Maybe I am super irregular shape and can't operate gas pedal or maybe BMW is just not for me
Cheers.

[griz31]

I probably would not.

Gearbox (even in comfort mode) is just way too jerky in stop and go traffic. I can understand sport mode being this way, but come on in comfort?

The cup holder in the door rests against my leg in such an uncomfortable position. I have tried numerous positions and just can't seem to get comfortable.

For a daily commuter, it's not the best for these reasons. All the tech is great, though

[b1gtuna]

Originally Posted by griz31

I probably would not.

Gearbox (even in comfort mode) is just way too jerky in stop and go traffic. I can understand sport mode being this way, but come on in comfort?

The cup holder in the door rests against my leg in such an uncomfortable position. I have tried numerous positions and just can't seem to get comfortable.

For a daily commuter, it's not the best for these reasons. All the tech is great, though

Oh man, I completely agree with the cup holder getting in the way with the left leg. I rest my left foot on the dead pedal. And there is NO WAY I don't feel crammed just because of that stupid cup holder!

[Blupantera]

Originally Posted by griz31

I probably would not.

Gearbox (even in comfort mode) is just way too jerky in stop and go traffic. I can understand sport mode being this way, but come on in comfort?

The cup holder in the door rests against my leg in such an uncomfortable position. I have tried numerous positions and just can't seem to get comfortable.

For a daily commuter, it's not the best for these reasons. All the tech is great, though

Originally Posted by griz31

I probably would not.

Gearbox (even in comfort mode) is just way too jerky in stop and go traffic. I can understand sport mode being this way, but come on in comfort?

The cup holder in the door rests against my leg in such an uncomfortable position. I have tried numerous positions and just can't seem to get comfortable.

For a daily commuter, it's not the best for these reasons. All the tech is great, though

I've had my 330i with M Sport package for 16 months and I love it.
I have no issues with the gearbox, especially after enabling the Comfort Plus mode. It feels very smooth at low RPM, yet very responsive on throttle.

The cup holder in the door can be annoying at times, but I do find it very useful and have learned to avoid pressing against it instinctively. I'm 6'3" and it took a while to find my best position. In my opinion, the range of adjustments possible in terms of seating and steering wheel positions is expansive. Someone in the comments above was complaining that seats are[IMG]undefined[/IMG] too high up. Not my experience whatsoever. There might be some differences in particular trim variants. I do remember having a loaner with a base trim, that seemed to push me higher up.

l cannot speak to the advancement of tus generation over the previous one, since i jumped from a '96 E36.

I do think that this G20 generation is the clear overall winner in the segment, especially when well optioned

[TheRetroGuy]

Originally Posted by TheRetroGuy

Oddly, mine seems to have worked better during cold weather (either that or it was before the iDrive update). My mobile signal is always good - and as far as I can tell my mobile hotspot reception is always good.

I noticed the key fob behind the phone thing too -- but even if that were the only issue, it's embarassing for BMW because I had very reliable key fob detection for the last 10 years now in my Japanese makes. Besides, it still can't seems like hit or miss detection even when its in my pocket by itself, or held in my hand.

Just thought I would update this thread. I tried switching key fobs a few days ago, and so far (knock on wood) the car seems to be detecting the key fob better and generally misbehaving less. So, it could be a fob battery issue or perhaps a faulty fob. I'll be thrilled if it turns out that's been the only problem all along.

[vortechvr6]

Bought the Mineral grey 330i M sport last week. Will definitely recommend this car to others. Here's 330i only comes with one version. It's fully loaded M sport packages. The other model is 320i with strip down options. That's it!

Here are the option:

M Sport Suspension with Adaptive button
M Sport Differential
M Sport Pedals
M Sport Bodykit
M Sport Ducktail
M Sport Valvetronic Exhaust System with pop's and bang's in Sport mode
M Sport Brake Blue Calipers
M Sport Leather Steering Wheel
M Sport Seat Belts
Laser Lights
Leather Seats
Sunroof
Tire Monitoring display
Wireless Charging Tray
Double Glass Windows

The only annoying thing is the stupid RFT Tires. I went straight to the Tires shop and replaced them with Michelin pilot Sport 4 NON RFT Tires. Now the car absorbs pot holes much better. The RFT tires are the worst inventions ever!!
I now carry a can of Tires foam and a compact air compressor. Problem solved.
There is absolutely no need of stupid RFT tires.

I owned three F30's before this G20 and I must say that the suspension of 330i M sport are way more firm. A lot more firmer which is a good thing. The car handled the road like a go-kart. Nice! I heard that the 320i with non m sport suspension ride smoother, but of course less stable than the M sport susp.

All in all I gave the 330i M sport 9 out of 10

[Paga]

Originally Posted by vortechvr6

Bought the Mineral grey 330i M sport last week. Will definitely recommend this car to others. Here's 330i only comes with one version. It's fully loaded M sport packages. The other model is 320i with strip down options. That's it!

Here are the option:

M Sport Suspension with Adaptive button
M Sport Differential
M Sport Pedals
M Sport Bodykit
M Sport Ducktail
M Sport Valvetronic Exhaust System with pop's and bang's in Sport mode
M Sport Brake Blue Calipers
M Sport Leather Steering Wheel
M Sport Seat Belts
Laser Lights
Leather Seats
Sunroof
Tire Monitoring display
Wireless Charging Tray
Double Glass Windows

The only annoying thing is the stupid RFT Tires. I went straight to the Tires shop and replaced them with Michelin pilot Sport 4 NON RFT Tires. Now the car absorbs pot holes much better. The RFT tires are the worst inventions ever!!
I now carry a can of Tires foam and a compact air compressor. Problem solved.
There is absolutely no need of stupid RFT tires.

I owned three F30's before this G20 and I must say that the suspension of 330i M sport are way more firm. A lot more firmer which is a good thing. The car handled the road like a go-kart. Nice! I heard that the 320i with non m sport suspension ride smoother, but of course less stable than the M sport susp.

All in all I gave the 330i M sport 9 out of 10

Originally Posted by vortechvr6

Bought the Mineral grey 330i M sport last week. Will definitely recommend this car to others. Here's 330i only comes with one version. It's fully loaded M sport packages. The other model is 320i with strip down options. That's it!

Here are the option:

M Sport Suspension with Adaptive button
M Sport Differential
M Sport Pedals
M Sport Bodykit
M Sport Ducktail
M Sport Valvetronic Exhaust System with pop's and bang's in Sport mode
M Sport Brake Blue Calipers
M Sport Leather Steering Wheel
M Sport Seat Belts
Laser Lights
Leather Seats
Sunroof
Tire Monitoring display
Wireless Charging Tray
Double Glass Windows

The only annoying thing is the stupid RFT Tires. I went straight to the Tires shop and replaced them with Michelin pilot Sport 4 NON RFT Tires. Now the car absorbs pot holes much better. The RFT tires are the worst inventions ever!!
I now carry a can of Tires foam and a compact air compressor. Problem solved.
There is absolutely no need of stupid RFT tires.

I owned three F30's before this G20 and I must say that the suspension of 330i M sport are way more firm. A lot more firmer which is a good thing. The car handled the road like a go-kart. Nice! I heard that the 320i with non m sport suspension ride smoother, but of course less stable than the M sport susp.

All in all I gave the 330i M sport 9 out of 10

Thanks for the feedback much appreciated

[NoSUV4Me]

Originally Posted by Tallest

haha, nothing like a fisheye lens photo to convey the way the car looks.

I was wondering why it was a bit bendy! 😉

[finn1969]

I have owned my 330XI G20 for three months and love it. The motor, transmission and ride is extremely well done. I would certianly recommend it. Although I would not pay MSRP on any BMW, got to work a deal.