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2019+ BMW 3 AND 4-SERIES FORUMS (G2x Generation) General G80 M3 / G82 M4 Forum (2019+) BMW M CEO Confirms G80 M3 Manual Will Be RWD Only

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      11-22-2019, 02:22 PM   #23
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As for timeline - Flasch says the G80 M3 will debut towards the end of 2020 and begin production in 2021.
Geez production 2021 that's hella long time from now!
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      11-22-2019, 02:31 PM   #24
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Why the hell cant we have awd and manual? This is not a compromise.
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      11-22-2019, 02:32 PM   #25
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I live in a harsh winter climate and I'm still only interested in the RWD manual version.

Call me a purist or call me crazy, but that will never change as long as I'm alive and RWD/manual cars are offered. Weather has zero impact on my decision. RWD/manual cars is all we had growing up in Eastern Europe back in the day. Everybody managed just fine. Sure, cars nowadays have a lot more power, but that's why dedicated snows exist.

RWD with proper snow tires > AWD

..cheaper too
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OK, finally some information

I'm not waiting that long.
Yep. Even if i could get past the looks, I'd hold on to my f-series and wait for an LCI update or something. Isn't that over a 2-year gap? I was at least expecting the G80 to hit next year, and then the G82 a little after.
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      11-22-2019, 02:56 PM   #27
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It will be interesting to see if such an enthusiast vehicle really leans toward 6 mt and rwd... my guess is that we will see a 20/80 split rwd / awd... and will never see a 6mt M car again... vote with your wallet people if you want it.
They will still do it for the f87 m2. But after that?
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They will still do it for the f87 m2. But after that?
Half the M2 sales were manual, so I'd say 100% will see a manual in the next M2
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      11-22-2019, 03:02 PM   #29
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Yeah that's great and all, but that new grille is still hideous...
Seems like this is going to be a great car...





that looks really ugly.


I'd actually be interested in an AWD version to deal with the Utah winters.
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Realistic G80 full option availability will be late 2021 based on recent BMW new product launches.

Will be interesting the upcoming chatter when the G80 competition is AWD only.
That's really the clincher.

I have to pick between drive train preference and transmission preference. Don't make me pick a manual over a better-tuned suspension.
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That sucks. The F80s struggles to put power down, I wonder what they'll do to alleviate that.
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What about people that want RWD auto? Not everyone wants AWD.
probably not, but the m5 does offer a rwd only mode. Sadly this mode is only available with dsc off. Would be nice if they had the option to allow rwd with mdm on the g8x auto.
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I drive a DCT M3 CS and I hate myself!

Its my first auto and at the time I bought it there wasnt a single manual left unsold in the US 6 months after production ended. I was 25k miles over on my 6mt lease and could not keep it.
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I drive a DCT M3 CS and I hate myself!

Its my first auto and at the time I bought it there wasnt a single manual left unsold in the US 6 months after production ended. I was 25k miles over on my 6mt lease and could not keep it.
I had my dct for 3 months and traded it for a manual.

Sucks that awd won't come with manual, it may be a deciding factor for me to get into something else. The F80s struggle to put power down, I wonder if it'll be better with the g80.
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Half the M2 sales were manual, so I'd say 100% will see a manual in the next M2
that and they confirmed they're making it like ten times now
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I had my dct for 3 months and traded it for a manual.

Sucks that awd won't come with manual, it may be a deciding factor for me to get into something else. The F80s struggle to put power down, I wonder if it'll be better with the g80.
With warm tires and a light foot you can get a good launch on the F80. Trust me, I know, it happened once several years ago....
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that and they confirmed they're making it like ten times now
Yeah that is not an over statement.
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Sure I'll take a RWD manual. Better than nothing
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Just purchased my F80 an hour ago from a 3 year lease and glad I did with that timeframe. I was hoping for a 2020 launch.
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You'll see less power on the RWD Manual since its likely to be using the same 6spd as the F80. It has a power limit and they don't want to pay development costs to up that limit just for one car. The 0-60 time will suffer vs awd but I bet its rolling numbers will be similar with less power but less weight as well.
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What about people that want RWD auto? Not everyone wants AWD.
I'm sure they'll offer RWD with auto. Way too big of a market to ignore.
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I'm sure they'll offer RWD with auto. Way too big of a market to ignore.
Not sure if they are gone do that sense you can turn off AWD to RWD.
I know it's not ideal but it's there.
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I mean, that's great and all; just what I want in fact...but not to sound like "that guy", but my F80 will be 4 years old then, and ready for its second owner...there is no way i'm spending money on a car that looks like that.
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Not sure if they are gone do that sense you can turn off AWD to RWD.
I know it's not ideal but it's there.
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Leaning towards NO Auto with RWD.
RWD mode is included on M xDrive system.
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