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For example every review and my own experience say m240i is 90% OG M2. In fact some reviewers prefer it to OG M2 M550i is much closer to M5 compare to being close to 530i So a whole lot of people would disagree with you. The position of m Performance cars has been made clear by BMW.
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M cars are great and all. But they have all always been varying grades on the same scale. the M3 is going to be what maybe 8-9k more than a m340i. I'd guess 95% of m340i buyers could make it work if they had to get an m3. I'm not saying M cars are bad, or M340i cars are bad. Or 330i is bad. Its just different versions of the same thing, so don't act like it makes you somehow better if you bought an actual m3. Unless you really care how much money one has to spend on transportation and whatever status you feel that gives I mean an m3 costs what probably what a base x5 50i costs. So if you are on that train of thought, shouldn't anyone with a $70k car, like a x5 50i occupy the same status. Because lets get real here. Most people who get an M3 aren't going to be some amazing driver / track magician. I might get an M3 this time around. I can afford it. THat doesn't make me any better a driver than I am now, and ultimately for a lot of M drivers its a how much money can you spend on transportation pissing contest. So unless you really care about that or find it important, does it really matter if someone is an m340i o m3 owner. |
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To be honest, for me the status is that its an M car. It has a heritage and an iconic status, nothing to do with cost (for me). I dont care if its an F82 or E92, its like being in the club. I still get thumbs up from random people on the street, and you can guess what happens when I pick my daughter up from high school! As nice of a car as the M340i may be, I doubt Ill get the same reactions. Theres a high percentage chance Ill change my mind at the dealer and jump back into an M. I showed my daughter a pic of the M340i and she was like eh! Needless to say she has good taste in cars, taught her well!! |
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BMW stayed themselves the F30 and F80 only share 20% components. If those are similar then I don't know what's different. You want to use the actual manufacturer as an example? Ok, show me where the M235,M240,M850,M340 etc are under M models: https://www.bmwusa.com/vehicles/m-models.html
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Judging by this thread it seems that BMW has done it right by placing M in front of regular productions 240,340,550, some fake SUVS, etc.
Clearly it's a selling point for some, so it worked. I personally know I don't have an M3 even though I have M Sport package, MPPSK, M suspension, M this and that including M door scuff plates and M foot rest and M steering wheel and M 6mt shift knob and a damn M logo on all 4 wheels. If my car came with M in front of 340i, I would be removing it ASAP. I can't help but think the driver next to me in a real M3 would get a good chuckle seeing M340i on my trunk. I can afford an M3 but chose not to get it because it was more expensive and over the top for what I need in a daily driver, but I sure as hell am not gonna pretend that my car is "almost M3" because BMW decided to glue an M in front of 340i |
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More powerful engines, LSD, Adaptive M Suspension and more are part of M Performance models... I've owned 2 M cars, btw.
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The point isn't to make fun or belittle consumers that can't afford an actual M model. When we say cost, we mean consumers that want a sporty BMW, but don't WANT to pay for a full on M model. So their budget ceiling is an M340 for example. Doesn't mean they can't afford it necessarily, it just means they don't want to spend that much on a vehicle. That's BMWs target market with these M-performance models. Others also prefer sporty base models as DDs because they're more comfortable. So it depends on the consumer.
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I just don't want an M in front of my 340i on the trunk lid. But clearly it worked for BMW since a lot of people see the M badge in front of their regular production car (240, 340, etc) as a selling point. |
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Let me be clear! I dont give a flying F about a badge! Debadge the car for all I care! Its about the smile on my face when Im in the seat! I test drove a 335i which was heaps better than my Q50. I purchased the M4 without a test drive, which considering how I got the Q50 was a gamble! I IMMEDIATELY fell in love! And there was NOWAY a 335i would compensate! As for my daughter, shes not after labels.. couldnt tell you whether its a 340 or M5! But she knows the difference between mid-tier and top! |
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The M3 will have leather everywhere, significantly more power, different suspension geometry, unique fenders, rockers, bumpers, quarter panels, possibly a CF roof, additional chassis bracing, completely different suspension components, probably a different steering rack, and different wheel/tire sizes. Shall I go on? The M3 probably only shares the doors and trunk with the regular 3 series. The M340i will share every piece of sheet metal with the 320i base car. There is zero question the M340i is MUCH closer to a 330i M Sport with a bigger engine than the M3. Maybe the difference isn't so big with the M240i and original M2. But that's a whole other ball of wax. For the 3 series, the M3 is WAY different from the M340i. And why are you so hung up about what people think about what people can afford or what they prefer? There will always be people that judge people they will never know or talk to. Thing is, those people don't matter to you. Why get yourself worked up about them? EDIT I'm confused why you chose to compare the M5 to a 530i. If BMW were still making a V8 5 series, it'd be pretty close to what the M550i is. They're basically just throwing all M Sport and some M Perf options on it and marketing it as a "special" car. The suspension, steering, and chassis are basically the same as a 540i M Sport or what a regular 550i would have been like if it existed. The M5 has upgraded steering, suspension, chassis strengthening, upgraded oil sump (for tracking), more heat exchangers, and unique fascias, hood, fenders, quarter panels, and roof. The extent of the M550i changes are just some special bits of plastic on the bumpers and maybe a unique grille? The interior of the M550i is mostly similar to the 540i M Sport while the M5 gets nicer M seats. Last edited by upsidedownfunnel; 03-15-2019 at 05:38 PM.. |
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However, I'm saying probably, because M3 isn't even seen yet, M340i has just been reviewed in prototype form. I guess you're an insider or something and you saw G80?
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No, actually it's M550i. BMW calls it that way, so that's it. They could call it 'M5 Comfort Edition' or 'M5 GT'. It's their brand.
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Hell call it oranges! The SOB still does 0 to 60 in 3.9 secs
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