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      07-19-2019, 05:44 PM   #155
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My G30 530e was supposed to be the boring car that holds me until the new M3, but last night, something monumental happened...

The 2020 mid-engine Vette Stingray... what a gorgeous car at a bargain bin price (starting at under 60k). If it drives and sounds as well as everyone expects it will, I'll retain the G30 as the commuter and get me a manual Vette.

BMW and I are drifting apart, and I feel like the continued Lexusification effort is a bridge too far for me.
I guess no one has told you there will not likely be a manual Vette. NA V8? Yes. RWD? Yes. 0-60 in 2.8? Yes. Manual. No. Some say the chassis/frame design and oil sump (I believe) make it impossible in current form. Not sure this has been 100% confirmed/denied.

There is no such thing as a perfect car lol.
The jury is still out on the MT C8, but I'm sure we'll get confirmation soon enough.
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I guess no one has told you there will not likely be a manual Vette. NA V8? Yes. RWD? Yes. 0-60 in 2.8? Yes. Manual. No. Some say the chassis/frame design and oil sump (I believe) make it impossible in current form. Not sure this has been 100% confirmed/denied.

There is no such thing as a perfect car lol.
No manual Vette? What? Sacrebleu!

A mid-engine NA V8 with DCT still sounds infinitely better than what I am seeing from the new M3/M4. By the way, as far as I am aware, BMW still hasn't confirmed availability of the third pedal, so we could looking at auto vs DCT in this regard.
Yeah ... a few of the journalists have commented on this .. granted they aren't engineers but do have a way better idea than me.... they could always redesign some of the crap under there ... how hard could it be?

I just had a crazy idea ... clutch and shift by wire!? haha *flame suit donned*
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My G30 530e was supposed to be the boring car that holds me until the new M3, but last night, something monumental happened...

The 2020 mid-engine Vette Stingray... what a gorgeous car at a bargain bin price (starting at under 60k). If it drives and sounds as well as everyone expects it will, I'll retain the G30 as the commuter and get me a manual Vette.

BMW and I are drifting apart, and I feel like the continued Lexusification effort is a bridge too far for me.
I guess no one has told you there will not likely be a manual Vette. NA V8? Yes. RWD? Yes. 0-60 in 2.8? Yes. Manual. No. Some say the chassis/frame design and oil sump (I believe) make it impossible in current form. Not sure this has been 100% confirmed/denied.

There is no such thing as a perfect car lol.
The jury is still out on the MT C8, but I'm sure we'll get confirmation soon enough.
Yeah I certainly don't know for sure but a few journalists commented on it "not looking possible" but they could always be wrong or maybe they'll do some design tweaks to make it happen
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After seeing the renditions of the new M3 with the International truck style grill, a lot of people won't be holding out til anything
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After seeing the renditions of the new M3 with the International truck style grill, a lot of people won't be holding out til anything
It can't be right ... m3 seems like a bad car to test "will the people love it or hate it?" Theory bc of the history it has... just too aggressive, they'll dial it back from that a lot I think.
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After seeing the renditions of the new M3 with the International truck style grill, a lot of people won't be holding out til anything
It can't be right ... m3 seems like a bad car to test "will the people love it or hate it?" Theory bc of the history it has... just too aggressive, they'll dial it back from that a lot I think.
Remember this is also applicable the new 4-Series, so BMW is playing a risky game indeed.
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