LCI Shifter Retrofit?

bimmerstar · 10-17-2022, 04:25 PM

Hello

Has anyone thought to retrofit the LCI "stickless" button shifter?

I kinda like that the stick isnt in the way. Looks cleaner, easier to get drinks, easier to press traction button etc. I came from mercedes and we had shifter on steering wheel which I thought was a good way to free up space in console area.

not sure if pinout is the same or if it needs coding. etc.

B58-M340iX · 10-26-2022, 11:07 PM

Someone in the M340i facebook group did the opposite and installed the shifter in place of the "tab thing" (for lack of a better term). He mentioned it was plug and play. I imagine you'd be able to install it without much trouble in that case, but I don't know anyone whose done it.

Sandpiper · 10-27-2022, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by B58-M340iX

Someone in the M340i facebook group did the opposite and installed the shifter in place of the "tab thing" (for lack of a better term). He mentioned it was plug and play. I imagine you'd be able to install it without much trouble in that case, but I don't know anyone whose done it.

Oh damn, that is nice! Care to share the link? Does the shifting capability work using the shifter rather than the flappy pads? I don't mind the small toggle button, but if I miss the one hand shifting I might do a swap.

B58-M340iX · 10-27-2022, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandpiper

Oh damn, that is nice! Care to share the link? Does the shifting capability work using the shifter rather than the flappy pads? I don't mind the small toggle button, but if I miss the one hand shifting I might do a swap.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/g20m340i/permalink/2014597062264261/

bimmerstar · 10-27-2022, 11:44 AM

yea i saw that thread. if that is the case I am sure it is plug and play for our car. I like also that the LCI doesnt have an unlock button. its super annoying to have to hold the unlock button to change from drive to reverse and back. y turns are super annoying.

larrylam646 · 11-02-2022, 12:40 PM

Picked-up on ebay and just finished installing an LCI Gear Selector Centre Console panel from a pre-production G20LCI.

HW is Plug-n-play but not SW/FW. Perhaps a production version of the LCI Gear Selector will be SW/FW compatible but I suspect not, based on my experience.

I need to test further but the LCI Gear Selector appears to be working properly. The only thing I noticed is the "S" (Sport Mode) LED does not light-up on the Gear Selector panel. I can live with this issue for now since the proper gear is displayed in the instrument cluster.

Larry

GOTOFMS · 11-02-2022, 01:01 PM

Nice! Care to share the part number?

bimmerstar · 11-02-2022, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by larrylam646

Picked-up on ebay and just finished installing an LCI Gear Selector Centre Console panel from a pre-production G20LCI.

HW is Plug-n-play but not SW/FW. Perhaps a production version of the LCI Gear Selector will be SW/FW compatible but I suspect not, based on my experience.

I need to test further but the LCI Gear Selector appears to be working properly. The only thing I noticed is the "S" (Sport Mode) LED does not light-up on the Gear Selector panel. I can live with this issue for now since the proper gear is displayed in the instrument cluster.

Larry

what do you mean pre production? what did you have to do to install software wise? i ordered one from ebay from an LCI so we will see if it works.

larrylam646 · 11-02-2022, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by bimmerstar

what do you mean pre production? what did you have to do to install software wise? i ordered one from ebay from an LCI so we will see if it works.

By pre-production, the Gear Selector I purchased has a manufacturing date of 10/20 with pre-released FW installed i.e. with BTLD, CAFD, SWFK and SWFL versions all earlier than the production versions available in the psdzdata database (S18A-22-11-527) I am using.

I had to install the production FW version compatible with my LCI Gear Selector. I could not inject the CAFD file without first updating the FW.

If the LCI Gear Selector you purchased is new or from a production vehicle, then your unit may already have the proper FW installed.

What is the manufacturing date of the LCI Gear Selector you purchased? Does the unit have the typical BMW product label i.e. with a QR Code?

I also had to update the transmission controller (EGS7) FW to 1122 (BTLD, CAFD, SWFK and SWFL). Luckily, the psdzdata database includes 1122 FW compatible with the EGS7 HW version installed in my vehicle.

FYI, I could not select S mode using the LCI Gear Selector without first updating the EGS7 FW to 1122.

Larry

larrylam646 · 11-03-2022, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by GOTOFMS

Nice! Care to share the part number?

Sorry I missed your post. The part number is likely a pre-production number but I have included a pic of the label. A search of this part number revealed nothing material.

Larry

desertspotter · 11-03-2022, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by larrylam646

Picked-up on ebay and just finished installing an LCI Gear Selector Centre Console panel from a pre-production G20LCI.

HW is Plug-n-play but not SW/FW. Perhaps a production version of the LCI Gear Selector will be SW/FW compatible but I suspect not, based on my experience.

I need to test further but the LCI Gear Selector appears to be working properly. The only thing I noticed is the "S" (Sport Mode) LED does not light-up on the Gear Selector panel. I can live with this issue for now since the proper gear is displayed in the instrument cluster.

Larry

So, did you change the complete module or only the shifter for the toggle?. AFAIK LCI don't have adaptive button as driving mode?.

I prefer the traditional shifter so maybe once I get the car I will change it.

larrylam646 · 11-03-2022, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by desertspotter

So, did you change the complete module or only the shifter for the toggle?. AFAIK LCI don't have adaptive button as driving mode?.

I prefer the traditional shifter so maybe once I get the car I will change it.

From the pic of the actual LCI Gear Selector module I purchased, the complete module less the idrive controller and filler plate.

Please note unlike the F3x, the buttons and the shifter are a single unit integrated into the housing and cannot be separated. I reused my factory idrive controller and filler plate.

Larry

GOTOFMS · 11-04-2022, 07:39 AM

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I purchased this one on e-bay; Not too worried about the Auto start/stop button since I've already coded it.

larrylam646 · 11-04-2022, 08:35 AM

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I purchased this one on e-bay; Not too worried about the Auto start/stop button since I've already coded it.

Thank you for letting me know. I saw that ad on ebay.de. From memory, I believe there was a QR-code on the label. The resolution of the pics in that ad were too low to make-out the part numbers.

I believe we purchased our LCI Gear Selectors from the same vendor. I hope you receive a production version...

Feel free to PM if I can be of any assistance.

Larry

bimmerstar · 11-04-2022, 11:02 AM

i bought the shifter from same ebay seller. my car is fully loaded so I had to buy unit with all options and buttons. The usa shifter i do not think has auto start stop button or adaptive on LCI so this euro shifter was needed for my fully loaded usa car. I hope it works!

bimmerstar · 11-16-2022, 05:56 PM

Just an update, I finally had a chance to install the LCI shifter into my pre LCI 2020 M340. I can confirm it works! I love it. No longer have the useless shifter knob in the way to block my hand from easily selecting the surround view, traction buttons or parking. Also no need to press unlock button when doing y turns from reverse to drive etc. As mentioned above the trans software needs to be updated as I can not shift into "S" mode. I will need to figure out how to do that. larrylam646 any information on how you upgraded trans software so the s mode works?

My m340 is fully loaded so I had to purchase a shifter from Europe that had all the buttons and I still care about the engine start stop button

GOTOFMS · 11-17-2022, 11:31 AM

Mine is on its way; just cleared customs.

ergarza · 11-17-2022, 01:59 PM

With this new toggle how do you change from a manual shifting back to automatic?
In my pre-lci m340 I just push the shifter left or right to put it back into auto, seems easier just to hit the shifter... But maybe I am wrong....

ramparts · 11-18-2022, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ergarza

With this new toggle how do you change from a manual shifting back to automatic?
In my pre-lci m340 I just push the shifter left or right to put it back into auto, seems easier just to hit the shifter... But maybe I am wrong....

Don't you pull back twice to go into S mode ?

bimmerstar · 11-18-2022, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ramparts

Don't you pull back twice to go into S mode ?

yes

GOTOFMS · 11-18-2022, 07:52 PM

Seller shipped the wrong item. Instead of "Adaptive" I have a Hill Decent button.

Update: Correct item is on it way.

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larrylam646 · 11-20-2022, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by GOTOFMS

Seller shipped the wrong item. Instead of "Adaptive" I have a Hill Decent button.

Update: Correct item is on it way.

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Glad to learn....

10-17-2022, 04:25 PM	#1
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bimmerstar Second Lieutenant 149 Rep 236 Posts Drives: 2020 BMW M340xi Join Date: Aug 2022 Location: Michigan iTrader: (1)	yea i saw that thread. if that is the case I am sure it is plug and play for our car. I like also that the LCI doesnt have an unlock button. its super annoying to have to hold the unlock button to change from drive to reverse and back. y turns are super annoying. __________________ 2024 G87 Zandvoort Blue M2 w/ Buckets - Stock 93\| 0-60 TBD \| 1/4 TBD \| 60-130 TBD 2020 G20 Tanzanite Blue II M340 xDrive - E30 BM3\| 0-60 3.28 \| 1/4 11.39@123 \| 60-130 9.56 Past: 2017 W205 Black C43 AMG - E40 FBO No Turbo \| 0-60 3.21 \| 1/4 11.18@124 \| 60-130 9.17
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larrylam646 Lieutenant 373 Rep 464 Posts Drives: 2020 M340i xDrive Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Ottawa iTrader: (2)	LCI Gear Selector retrofit Picked-up on ebay and just finished installing an LCI Gear Selector Centre Console panel from a pre-production G20LCI. HW is Plug-n-play but not SW/FW. Perhaps a production version of the LCI Gear Selector will be SW/FW compatible but I suspect not, based on my experience. I need to test further but the LCI Gear Selector appears to be working properly. The only thing I noticed is the "S" (Sport Mode) LED does not light-up on the Gear Selector panel. I can live with this issue for now since the proper gear is displayed in the instrument cluster. Larry Attached Images __________________ 2020 Black Sapphire M340iX 2014 Estoril Blue 435iX - sold
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bimmerstar Second Lieutenant 149 Rep 236 Posts Drives: 2020 BMW M340xi Join Date: Aug 2022 Location: Michigan iTrader: (1)	i bought the shifter from same ebay seller. my car is fully loaded so I had to buy unit with all options and buttons. The usa shifter i do not think has auto start stop button or adaptive on LCI so this euro shifter was needed for my fully loaded usa car. I hope it works! __________________ 2024 G87 Zandvoort Blue M2 w/ Buckets - Stock 93\| 0-60 TBD \| 1/4 TBD \| 60-130 TBD 2020 G20 Tanzanite Blue II M340 xDrive - E30 BM3\| 0-60 3.28 \| 1/4 11.39@123 \| 60-130 9.56 Past: 2017 W205 Black C43 AMG - E40 FBO No Turbo \| 0-60 3.21 \| 1/4 11.18@124 \| 60-130 9.17
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bimmerstar Second Lieutenant 149 Rep 236 Posts Drives: 2020 BMW M340xi Join Date: Aug 2022 Location: Michigan iTrader: (1)	Just an update, I finally had a chance to install the LCI shifter into my pre LCI 2020 M340. I can confirm it works! I love it. No longer have the useless shifter knob in the way to block my hand from easily selecting the surround view, traction buttons or parking. Also no need to press unlock button when doing y turns from reverse to drive etc. As mentioned above the trans software needs to be updated as I can not shift into "S" mode. I will need to figure out how to do that. larrylam646 any information on how you upgraded trans software so the s mode works? My m340 is fully loaded so I had to purchase a shifter from Europe that had all the buttons and I still care about the engine start stop button __________________ 2024 G87 Zandvoort Blue M2 w/ Buckets - Stock 93\| 0-60 TBD \| 1/4 TBD \| 60-130 TBD 2020 G20 Tanzanite Blue II M340 xDrive - E30 BM3\| 0-60 3.28 \| 1/4 11.39@123 \| 60-130 9.56 Past: 2017 W205 Black C43 AMG - E40 FBO No Turbo \| 0-60 3.21 \| 1/4 11.18@124 \| 60-130 9.17
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GOTOFMS Private First Class 80 Rep 127 Posts Drives: 2020 M340i Join Date: Jul 2022 Location: NY iTrader: (0)	Seller shipped the wrong item. Instead of "Adaptive" I have a Hill Decent button. Update: Correct item is on it way. Last edited by GOTOFMS; 11-20-2022 at 07:43 AM..
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